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A poster at Tokyo's Asakusabashi subway station warns against gropers and voyueuristic filming.

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These posters are a waste of money. It won't deter a would-be perpetrator. 

Except that this poster is not aiming to deter a would-be perpetrator. It is telling victims to speak up, to grab any hand groping them, to try to remember the perp's face. The poster is aimed at women, not men, and the image is of a woman defending herself. I kind of object to the image in that it will be a talent jimusho's model/talento ordered through Dentsu, hence jacking up the cost to the taxpayer, but I do not object to the spirit of the poster, which is "don't let them get away with it".

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@Speed

What's that kanji just to the right of chikan 痴漢 at the top? "Kancho"?

痴漢 (chikan) = groper

盗撮(tosatsu) = voyeur in the sense of "stealing pictures"

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Saw a guy just as I came up the stairs at Shin Osaka take a photo from behind up a girls skirt ( the Shinkansen part of all paces! ) a few months back. It’s quite a bold maneuver, when you see the way these pricks operate in real time, very risky and I guess that’s part of the appeal. Young lass was none the wiser. Thinking he was in the clear he saw me out the side of his peripheral vision and did a quick detour. I just went around the other way and caught his eye, where this pathetic looking badly dressed pervert knew he was made. The look on his face was gold. Terror.

Oi!

He took off like a rabbit down the stairs running for his life. My train pulled up and I thought about chasing for a moment but the hassle of it all just didn’t seem worth it. There’s some sad sorry people creeping around in this country. Little boys trapped in grown men’s bodies.

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@Monty

Yeah, but in order for that stuff to be on internet, someone needs to film it. It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it.

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Don't. As a non-Japanese (which I assume you are), you could very well get into trouble with the police for doing the right thing. Leave the Japanese to sort out their own problems.

I couldn't agree more, seen it happen 3 times to people. I remember one incident when a foreigner got in a middle of a dispute where the foreigner tried to help and I distinctly remember one where a woman was being yelled at and shoved to the ground repeatedly and this individual tried to help and pushed the aggressor down, held him down and rattled his cage (this was in Hiroshima) someone called the police, they came and asked the girl what happened, guess she might have been afraid or maybe it was her boyfriend and told the police the foreign guy was the aggressor and the guy was arrested, he tried to explain and resisted and the police got angrier and called for backup and within 30 minutes there were 12 police officers yelling and aggressively grabbing the guy and trying to pull his arm back to cuff him, they were pulling so hard on his arm the guy started screaming and started to get angry (he used to be a semi-wrestler in the States) he pulled his arm back and then shot it straight and hit one of the cops in the face so hard, he broke the guys glasses, they tried to dog pile on the guy and he started flipping and throwing these cops around left and right and finally one of the officers pulled out his gun and pointed at the guy and that's when I stepped in front and told the cop "don't" I turned around and tried to calm my friend down and he was at that point hysterical and just wanted to fight it out and I told him, "if you don't stop, they will shoot you."

He started to calm down and the cops were angry but scared at the same time because now they had a ticked off foreigner that wanted to help a young woman that was getting abused by a guy and then he wants up being the one fighting with the cops. After everyone calmed down, the police were taking their reports and talking to my friend as well as the couple and warned him that he should not get involved in domestic private disputes and to make matters worse, they told him to apologize to the guy for roughing him up.

Surprisingly, the cops let him go even after all that. My friend tried to apologize to the cop who had his glasses broken, but he basically told my friend in Japanese to essentially "bleep" himself, the couple left and then we left as well. That was over 20 years ago.

I learned something that night and I realized that if you try and help someone especially in a domestic dispute quite often the women are ashamed, don't want trouble with their boyfriends later or even possibly having their parents hear about the situation and so she just wanted out asap and flipped around to my friend. It was sad, but it was a learning experience and I have seen countless times women being abused and although my instincts want to compel me to help, my street smarts tell me don't and I never have and never will in this country because you can easily wind up in jail and face a heavy lawsuit if they file one and who do you think they will believe, a native Japanese or a western, traveling or permanent resident? The risk is not worth it and once you are fingerprinted and in the system in Japan, you are really screwed because that will follow you forever, just think about that. I never had a problem with the cops over here because I absolutely avoid them and will never give them a valid reason to put me in the system. Screw personal pride. Japanese police often have this thing in their head that only foreigners are the ones that make trouble in Japan as if Japanese people themselves are immune to wrongdoing, sad as well as irritating.

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A nice poster with a good message ... but you’ll have to do better than that. A lot more needs to be done.

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@BertieWooster

"voyeueristic?" What am dat?

The derivation of sexual satisfaction by watching people secretly,

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Yeah, she's cute, but for me every time I hear stories like this, takes me back to that moment, I always thought cops in Japan were nice, helpful, respectful and a lot of that is true provided you don't get on their bad side and if you're a foreigner breaking the same laws as the natives you're not always going to be treated like the natives, quite the contrary. Best advice keep your nose clean and stay out of peoples business, don't get involved in any physical altercation, someone decks you, just take and run and if you choose to fight back, prey the person doesn't call the cops, you're pretty much toast from that point on.

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I really don't understand how you can turn on by these up-skirt filming on escalators.

And if you need it, you can find all that stuff on the internet.

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Ricky:

My train pulled up and I thought about chasing for a moment but the hassle of it all just didn’t seem worth it.

Don't. As a non-Japanese (which I assume you are), you could very well get into trouble with the police for doing the right thing. Leave the Japanese to sort out their own problems.

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What's that kanji just to the right of chikan 痴漢 at the top? "Kancho"?

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These posters are a waste of money. It won't deter a would-be perpetrator. The whole underground is full of similar "prevention posters" and it is already visually disgusting. Instead of posters, there should be real prevention, a sex offender registry, more observant people, people who will intervene instead of just looking at the situation.

But this is not really seen as a problem here. The most common excuse is "he was just drunk because he was stressed from work and the amount of overtime. He didn't know what he was doing. In Japan, people work too hard, people are really exhausted. ".

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voyueuristic filming

"voyeueristic?" What am dat?

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It's "voyeuristic"...Literacy is clearly on the decline in this computer age...

On the other hand...

More than half a century ago I was teaching in a school in a land across the sea. There a pretty librarian/secretary would come into the all-male teachers room to serve tea. On more than one occasion, someone would try to pull her dress up. She would giggle and deftly slip away...Years later I taught in a university, in which the general affairs section office displayed calendars with nude female photos. The section chief would made lewd remarks to the young married woman at the bottom of the totem pole...I had a colleague who claimed that he knew a chikan and that the man regarded what he was doing as a service to sexually frustrated women...Yes, of course, utterly insane!

The world remains an imperfect place, but anyone with a reasonably long memory can say that in this regard things are much better.

Kohakuebisu gets it just right...

I have two sons and two daughters. The younger of the my daughters was coming home one night, when some chikan made a move on her. Big mistake on the chikan's part, as my daughter is no one to mess with. She chased him until she caught him. He begged for mercy...

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@Bass: Great story about a hero. Poster girl looks like one of my sisters by the way, but she is humble.

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Nothing that concealed carry can't handle (maybe someday, huh?). Or simple self-defense techniques (hey, police people... start some classes). Girls need to quit being so passive, and watch how they dress. And guys, quit living in a porn world. Life just ain't like that.

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At least put a homely sorry looking girl on the poster with lip hair etc. putting a cute girl on it will only challenge the weirdos more!

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By the way, more than likely the Internet films are staged, and got permission from the train lines and local konban to do the filming

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