Damage control

such a small fraction of No.3 reactor building? Or main unit is behind this fence?

Officials said Sunday the plant is now relatively stable.

Relatively stable? Relative to what?

That does not look good! and they relaxed the evacuation zone so more people can breathe the chernobyl-like radiation.

Sure they will not restart it next week.

That sure does not look stable to me. It`s just another lie by TEPCO.

They say a picture us worth a thousand words right? This one needs no explanation. Tepco is guilty as hell!!! For shame!!

Don't judge a building by its appearance. Things are not always as they appear.

DisillusionedOct. 10, 2011 - 08:15AM JST

Maybe relatively to the other reactor buildings.

The pisa tower looks more stable than this.

The line in the structure that is clearly visible, the line between the destroyed and in tact section defines where the loading floor starts and under which the former core, at least partially out of its containment vessel, is sat as a corium mass on the floor. The destroyed upper section housed the crane for loading etc and the storage pool. The No 3 building compared to the No 4 building is relatively stable. It is the structure of No 4 and its storage pool that tepco should be releasing photos of to show that they have secured that potential Catastrophe Part IX.

Click on these to get a larger idea:

http://pinktentacle.com/2011/04/high-resolution-photos-of-fukushima-daiichi/

According to jimstonefreelance.com, Reactor 3 is completely missing, which means the press and anyone who has claimed anything about pressures, temperatures, containment, ect about reactor 3 after March 14 are lying and people need to pay attention to it, because failure of the public to realize the massive extent of the lies about what is going on there will leave the door open to a repeat event.

It's 'relatively stable' in that something completely destroyed can't really be more destroyed than it already is. Of course, that says nothing of the radiation, which I'm sure is still spewing out all over the place and/or leaking into the water.

Yes TEPCO we believe you, after all you have been so honest in the past 7 months.

Thank you so much for making us feel so relieved that you have the situation under control.

By the way have you managed to stop the leaking radiation yet? No... well l dont think the situation is relatively stable. l would say its relatively FD up

You could show that picture to a monkey and it would tell you it's not stable. TEMPCO, you lying killers.

Foxie

According to jimstonefreelance.com

You could just as easily say "according to a completely random person on the street" with as much credibility.

tigerguy:

" more people can breathe the chernobyl-like radiation. "

You can not "breathe radiation". Lets use words that makes sense, please.

Sorry if I don't believe you tepco

How stupid do they think we all are?

Foxie:

" According to jimstonefreelance.com "

According to jimstonefreelance.com, nuclear weapons disguised as security cameras were detonated in reactors 1 to 4. According to Jimstonefreelance.com, there was no earthquake on March 11 either, rather it was a nuclear offshore explosion arranged by the CIA- There is plenty more. The site you take your information from is, shall we say.... entertaining. But really... are you presenting this as fact?

WillB, yes you can breathe radiation, it all around us. Show us some words that make sense then. Enlighten us will you?

That is a picture of pure stability!

tigerguy:

" yes you can breathe radiation, it all around us. "

You can "breathe radiation" in the same way you can "breath" light or radar or radio waves, or WLAN reception. I would like to see you demonstrate that...

Just a little tidying up and it will look like new again.

@Tiger guy you can breathe in irradiated particles, particles that are contaminated, but in regards to radiation, well. No.

I am still giggling at the "jimstonefreelance" site. Foxie, do tell us, do you take all that stuff there seriously?

Thanks YongYang for the info. It's still bad stuff that people are breathing in. I read somewhere that people are breathing in hot particles.

WilliB, Mr Know it all, I meant we breathe in substances that emit radiation, hot particles. Don't tell me to demonstrate anything to you, do it yourself!

Yes, after the latest news about the Tokyo water supply being compromised with Okutama showing huge amounts of cesium it is nice to know that Unit 3 is stable. Actually we know there is probably some nuclear corium (Tepco's taboo word) left there burning inside and definitely some hot Cories down in the bowels of Units 1 and 2. Oh I forgot...Tepco likes to call them Blocks now.

Ok...when the fat ladies (Corie) sings we are going to see some hydrovolcanic activity that will make Fortune Island really rock. And when the spring snows in 2012 melts and the trees dump their load of nuclear isotopes on the water tables you better hope you have hit the lottery by then because you will need to drink and BATHE in Evian water...just like the motorcycle guy. Oh, and find some imported food from Chile to munch on because the rice and seafood is going to glow in the dark.

Seriously folks...if a nuclear plant in my state in the US blew like Fukushima I would have been long gone the same day. I don't need some nuclear industry bureaucrat telling me that I need to think happy thoughts! Take care and wear your respirators.

WilliB, of course I am not taking that site seriously, it posted it purely because of its amazing theories and I wanted to share this with you guys on a cloudy day. It would make a good movie though. Conspiracy at its best.

It seems stable from a point of view it cannot explode more, or is irretrievably damaged. Good experts might be able to draw consequences and give us the clue what could explode, by viewing the photo.

As of Foxie's jimstonefreelance.com, the net is full of crazy sites and not all of them necessarily that crazy as they look like the firs moment. It is worth to listen even what our enemies say. I don't know them jimstonefreelance.com but I don't thinks it's any worse than TEPCO's official sites and statements. Please go and refresh at will and read TEPCO.

I don't know what exploded there and whether the Japanese have secret weapon program hidden in NPPs, that sounds strange to me, but even if not weapons I wouldn't exclude the possibility they are cooking something on their own. They might have even glitch in their computer systems.

Readers, please stay on topic, which is not about jimstonefreelance.com or any secret weapons exploding.

Officials said Sunday the plant is now relatively stable.

Correction; if you breathe infront of that builing you will be relatively stable. And people of Fukushima also going to be stable and fit to coffin.

@zichi

It seems to be the lid of the reactor dark colored in the middle of the photos. What do you think?

My guess is TEPCO toyed with the spent fuel roads and accumulated more than the whole unit was design to be able to accommodate.

My guess is TEPCO toyed with the spent fuel roads and accumulated more than the whole unit was design to be able to accommodate.

What use is baseless guessing like this? The situation is crap enough without utterly baseless speculation.

@zichi

But also from ariel shots over reactor 3 can't see the reactor lid?

I don't know, very confusing for me, that's why I asked you. I saw other pictures taken at different time where massive steam was blowing out from the center of damaged reactor 3. Wasn't no3 with the long vertical smog bursting out high in the air when exploded? That would second the reactor suffered steam explosion.

uncontrolled damage

zichi:

" For a more clear photo along with other photo's and a whole selection of secret documents check out http://cryptome.org/eyeball/daiichi-100811/daiichi-100811.htm "

Do you consider documents posted on a website "secret"?

@zichi

Thanks a lot for your time collecting the links and pointing it out. I understand it better now. Thanks again.

zichi:

" In my opinion, the situation at the plant will remain critical under the day arrives when all the nuclear fuel and waste is removed "

Everybody has their opinion, but yours does not make sense.

zichi,

because by that hamfisted definition, the whole earth is permanently "critical". There is always some nuclear material somewhere.

Which is of cours ridiculous. If the material is under control and stable, there is nothing "critical".

Can we do without this permanent hype, please?

The world knew this was coming (destroyed) by 3/16 except Tepco and Japanese media.

Actually 3 sets of parts from GE were still on the way from Florida to Japan on 3/18. It is very sad Japanese citizens are the last one to know the truth.as ALWAYS.

The world knew this was coming (destroyed) by 3/16 except Tepco and Japanese media.

Actually 3 sets of parts from GE were still on the way from Florida to Japan on 3/18. It is very sad Japanese citizens are the last one to know the truth.as ALWAYS.

Do you have to make the exact same post in two threads? Especially when it's wrong in both. Everybody had a damn good idea what was going on once we had our hydrogen explosions - these were reported extensively in both domestic AND international media at the time.

Especially when it's wrong in both. Everybody had a damn good idea what was going on once we had our hydrogen explosions

pawatan, then why these parts were on the way to Japan on 3/18 from Florida? TEPCO was still trying to save them. The US State Dept issued evacuation alert on 3/21 as a matter of fact while Japan was still in denial. My flight on 3/21 to Japan was still a destination unknown. If you claim my statements are wrong, please come back with the facts.

I loved how when this was all happening back in March that the JP news would not show pictures of the real reactors. Instead they kept showing stock photos and what not.

globalwatcher, you make no sense. You say:

The world knew this was coming (destroyed) by 3/16 except Tepco and Japanese media.

To which I say:

Everybody had a damn good idea what was going on once we had our hydrogen explosions - these were reported extensively in both domestic AND international media at the time.

And now you say:

The US State Dept issued evacuation alert on 3/21 as a matter of fact while Japan was still in denial.

So which is it? The US apparently didn't know on the 16th as there wasn't an evacuation alert until the 21st, according to you. But everybody knew? But Japan? And the US State Department? And GE, TEPCO? So it's just everyone else but those parties?

Hmm, except the first 20km zones were established on the 15th: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12740843

In a televised address, Prime Minister Naoto Kan said: "There is still a very high risk of more radiation coming out."

He said that 140,000 people living within between 20km (12 mile) and 30km of the plant were at risk and should not leave their homes.

Some 70,000 residents within 20km have already been evacuated, and the premier urged anyone left in that exclusion zone to leave.

"Now we are talking about levels that can impact human health," said the chief cabinet secretary.

He told residents: "Please do not go outside. Please stay indoors. Please close windows and make your homes airtight.

"Don't turn on ventilators. Please hang your laundry indoors."

The government also announced a 30-km no-fly zone above the plant to prevent planes spreading the radiation further afield.

Hmm, seems like Japan knew at least on the 15th, ne?

Damage control

It looks more like uncontrolled damage to me!

why are they lifting the ban ???? Why Why ??? I'm really sorry for the kids.

Hmm, seems like Japan knew at least on the 15th, ne?

pawatan, again then why the GE shipment to TEPCO left Florida on 3/18?

Why no official evaculation alert was issued by Japan? The airlines did not receive ANY special instructions from J. Govt, therefore all flights flying into Narita could not list Narita as a final destination. No official word from Japan, period.

In my opinion, the situation at the plant will remain critical under the day arrives when all the nuclear fuel and waste is removed.

Agreed, zichi.

globalwatcher

Why no official evaculation alert was issued by Japan?

Did you even bother to read what I quoted? Here it is again.

In a televised address, Prime Minister Naoto Kan said: "There is still a very high risk of more radiation coming out."

He said that 140,000 people living within between 20km (12 mile) and 30km of the plant were at risk and should not leave their homes.

Some 70,000 residents within 20km have already been evacuated, and the premier urged anyone left in that exclusion zone to leave.

"Now we are talking about levels that can impact human health," said the chief cabinet secretary.

He told residents: "Please do not go outside. Please stay indoors. Please close windows and make your homes airtight.

"Don't turn on ventilators. Please hang your laundry indoors."

The government also announced a 30-km no-fly zone above the plant to prevent planes spreading the radiation further afield.

That sounds like... an evacuation!

What, you expected journalists and photographers to go and take photo's of the reactors when they were bleeding high levels of radiation. Even if they were allowed? I think next time we'll ask you to go and do the job?

I'm always amazed at the crowd that thinks everything should have been known instantly about everything and all sorts of people should have been permitted on site to document and observe. That place was so lethal after the explosions that the engineers trying to bring the site under control were considered as good as dead! It's only recently that the place is stable enough for a real evaluation of the site status, let alone for someone to document the site in pictures.

20km (12 mile)

This is where everything goes blurry. There are Japanese version and US version. The US State Dept issued evacuation alert to all personnel within 200 km on 3/21.

Agaiin, what did TEPCO try to do on 3/18? They were trying to save the plants for reuse.

I forgot to add Japanese culture "mottainai" was well practiced in TEPCO management in time of serious crisis.They failed to weigh a risk vs "mottainai" The traditional "Mottainai" culture won!!

Up to your ears in a mecca of broken dreams.Desperation kicks you to the kill!!! Tepco you hear the people? Don't take a chill pill!

This is where everything goes blurry. There are Japanese version and US version. The US State Dept issued evacuation alert to all personnel within 200 km on 3/21.

There is NOTHING blurry. Japan requested evacuations on 3/15, the US on 3/21. You claim Japan did nothing but sit on its hands; this is demonstrably false.

Agaiin, what did TEPCO try to do on 3/18? They were trying to save the plants for reuse.

On 3/18 there were a few hundred men and women on site working in lethal conditions with inadequate protective gear and little information due to no instrumentation or anything. They were trying to save you and me and all of us in Japan - they've probably doomed themselves to a much shorter life. THAT'S what they were doing on 3/18.

On 3/18 there were a few hundred men and women on site working in lethal conditions with inadequate protective gear and little information due to no instrumentation or anything. They were trying to save you and me and all of us in Japan - they've probably doomed themselves to a much shorter life. THAT'S what they were doing on 3/18.

Hoping to get parts from GE to fix Fukushima for reuse. That's when former PM Kan stormed in TEPCO confronted Shimizu.

@Zichi: Yes but at the same time they were telling the public that there WASN'T radiation leaking from the reactors. If there wasn't radiation then why not get pictures? It's called sheeple control, you fell for it. JP news is notorious for down playing serious issues in order to keep people from panicking.

Yes but at the same time they were telling the public that there WASN'T radiation leaking from the reactors. If there wasn't radiation then why not get pictures? It's called sheeple control, you fell for it.

Read my link from the 15th; the government was saying at that early date that there was not only radiation leakage but it was too high for humans and people needed to evacuate. That's right after the disaster. So when was this non-leak time?

Were you even watching the news in Japan right after it happened? All news sources I were watching were saying that it was damaged but there was not a significant risk of radiation leakage. Of course, I didn't believe that one bit.

All news sources I were watching were saying that it was damaged but there was not a significant risk of radiation leakage. Of course, I didn't believe that one bit.

Well aren't you special then? It must be nice to have psychic powers to see into heavily damaged reactors from far away. It's amazing how many on here 'know' everything even when they are making a total guess, and very rarely does anybody admit their guess was wrong.