Protesters hold placards with a photo of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, during a rally against the government's planned secrecy law, in Hibiya Park, Tokyo, on Thursday night. The government is planning a state secrets act that critics say could curtail public access to information on a wide range of issues, including tensions with China and the Fukushima nuclear crisis. The new law would dramatically expand the definition of official secrets and journalists convicted under it could be jailed for up to five years. The placards read as "No Secrecy Act".
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FullM3taL
Heartening to see people out in force to protest against a draconian piece of legislature, but at the end of the day it will be all for naught.
Tom Thompson
there are protesters often marching through this park all orderly and nice
homleand
I would believe these protesters a lot more if they would defend their democracy by signing up and volunteering to defend their country. That is the ultimate selfless defense of freedom and democracy.
pointofview
@homeland,
Don`t be silly.
plasticmonkey
Good to see people standing up against this law. Wish I could see more young people in this photo, though.
nikkeiboy
In Japan protesters always seem to comprised of a majority of elderly people. I don't see anyone under 60 in that picture above. In other countries, protesters seem to be more college age students. Is it because the young Japanese don't care about what is going on around them?
kurisupisu
If Japanese refused to pay their taxes en masse then things would soon change....
HollisBrown
Unfortunately, it won't make a blind bit of difference.
Abe's lot are going to do pretty much what they want now. Losing power to the DPJ was a wake up call for them and they won't want that to happen again. (See the report about the last election being unconstitutional but not illegal etc.)
gogogo
This is how Abe keeps everyone in line. Pass a grey law and any press or article the government doesn't like the editors goto Jail. It is communism!
Pukey2
Shouldn't the right-wingers be there to defend Abe?
The Original Wing
In addition to the utter nonsense that is the premise of this comment, the thing that tops it off is the supposition that Japan represents freedom and democracy in the first place, and that defending Japan is defending the concepts of freedom and democracy. While it's certainly more free and just than many other countries, it's got a long way to go to meet those lofty standards.
By the way, I wish it were possible to vote "Good" for this entire photo. Let's pack a few million more into Hibiya Park and really push the issue.
tinawatanabe
@nikkeiboy
Because younger generations are more concerned about threats from neighboring countries, and so think fit to pass this law.
CrazyJoe
Not only will acts of leaking specific secrets be subject to punishment but trying to know it too will be subject to punishment also. This will significantly inhibit the free coverage of the reporters of the press, the researchers and freelance writers and legitimate whistle-blowing will shrink significantly.
smithinjapan
tinawatanabe: "Because younger generations are more concerned about threats from neighboring countries, and so think fit to pass this law."
No, it's because of an overall general sense of apathy. WHY would they be 'concerned about threats from neighbouring countries' and so agree that information from Fukushima should be limited?
Might soon be time for Abe's next tummy-ache.
In_japan
--- LOL
oldman_13
Yet another article that refutes the notion of Japanese citizens as being a group of unthinking, blind masses unwilling to stick out or criticize anything publicly.
ReformedBasher
@gogogo
Um, I'd be inclined to believe that quite a few of the protesters are from the Japan Communist Party. (Opposite of right is left?). Fits the ages shown here too.
tinawatanabe
No apathy. All I can see now in people around me is concern about China and South Korea.
davestrousers
Good people.
Agree with other posters that its a shame there aren't more young people there. They are the people who will get really shafted by this.
billybegood33
See, this is a pure example! You have no youth in this picture! Its ALL older people. Why? Because the youth don't care. Same with history. Same with everything. Its just waste of time and energy for these people. Yeah, its good for them to show their support, but what about their future? Thats why I think its all a trick sometimes. Its all to make us foreigners believe they are changing. The only thing they want to change is history. And they want to rule. Same with the people going abroad or studying english. its just old people taking an interest. how is that going to help the future?
nigelboy
Same ol' folks who were demonstrating anti-nuclear. Retired and bored.
This year, they started off with anti-nuclear, summer consists of anti-Emperor on August 15th, finish off the year with this. Same ol' knuckleheads that voted for Taro.
Jeffrey Rolek
"1984" author George Orwell will roll in his grave if this secrecy law gets passed.
buchailldana
Is a shocking law though although maybe Abe got advice from his buddy Putin or JTs funky bass dude..
Ah_so
But look at them - people in their sixties, most of them veterans of the radicalism of the 1960s. Where are the young, the students of today? Playing on their keitei, i expect, while their liberty is stolen from under their noses.
Jimizo
'Where are the young, the students of today? Playing on their keitai....' Very probably. The few that have even bothered to read about this ( more than 140 characters can be such a drag ) may have gone the whole hog with an angry tweet.
daito_hak
Yeah well, the young people don't give a shit about what's going on in their country no more that they do for the rest of the world. They area totally clueless. Not really their fault, they are educated to be like that by an education system put in place by the people that you see in the picture above.
And anyway give me a break, the same people above are the category of the population who has always voted for the LDP, they are responsible for bringing back the LDP mafia to the power, they are responsible for having put Abe in charge. It was known for a while now that Abe was going with this new secrecy law but the population decided to give full power to Abe during the last election, a voting population mostly made of elderly people. Young people didn't bother to even consider what the last election was about, most of them hardly know what an election is for and why it matters.
Yes this is all hypocrisy, the young people are not only responsible for the wrong direction that Japan is taking. The elderly ones have their share of responsibility for their continuous support of the LDP party because it has always promised them to protect their vested interests.
Now they got what they deserved, it's not a ridiculous demo without the beginning of a strong will to change the situation that will reverse their stupid decisions.
nigelboy
It's not stated in the article because from the placards these people were holding, those mandatory FOIA is not their concern. Their placards are something in the nature of "spy state" as fear of being spied by the government when the law itself was to prevent spies from gathering confidential information which jeopardizes public safety and welfare. As ex PM Nakasone called it, Japan is a "spy haven".
The law calls for 5 year period when a ministry declares it to be "secret". The said "secret" can be renewed every 5 years by the ministry but after it exceeds 30, it must be approved by the Cabinet (i.e. consisting of lawmakers elected by the people).
nath
The problem with laws like this are who determines what level it becomes to sensitive for public consumption? There always will be state secrets etc. in any country but if this is some way of hiding important truths from the people they should just remember that the government only governs on the consent of those that are governed. The U.S. could also learn that lesson as well.
chucky3176
They are all old. They will die off soon enough, and this small resistance will disappear. Japan is well on it's way to a fascist militarist state. In ten years, you won't recognize that country, and the US will be kicking their feet in the sand again for allowing Japan's military's rise. The US made the same mistake with China, thinking they would rise in Asia peacefully. Boy were they wrong, and look what happened.
BertieWooster
Chucky3176,
Yes, and the U.S.A. is leading the way!
Andreas Zachcial
A handful of old people protesting. Will not change anything. Where are the young people of Japan?? Busy playing video games??
Open Minded
Congrats to the protesters! Make it bigger, enroll the young herbivores around you! Make them understanding their future is in their hands. Don't give up!
nigelboy
jpn guy
Why would you have a problem of Cabinet which consists of lawmakers elected by the voting citizens determine whether or not when that time period comes, decide to extend the secrecy of the information? If it's purely done by the ministries (bureaucrats) who are not elected by the people, arbitrary decide to extend at their own discrecion, then yes, I have a problem with it.
And yes. I will belittle the protesters for they have no clue as to the purpose of the law for there is a reason why it's also called "spy prevention law". This isn't about the governments "spying on people". It's not about creating an secretive society. It's about preventing secrets that undermine, compromise, and threaten the security of citizens of Japan that are released to dangerous hands by the public servants despite their intra agency rule that prevents them from so. You know why? Because there are not enough teeth to punish such conducts.
http://twitpic.com/deqeg8
Radiation exposure? TPP? WTF???
Passage of the bill=preparation for war? WTF??
http://www.himituho.com/活動報告/
nigelboy
Yep. "Human rights" expert. Hence they don't have the brain capacity to connect paragraph 6 and 7 to the article you linked.
What's the phrase..? Oh yeah. Not Applicable. (N/A)
homleand
A lot of people are asking where are the young people?
The young people of Japan seem to understand that Japan faces many threats, and that Japan needs a National Security Council and a constitutional reform.
The young people of Japan also don't want to further jeopardize their employment opportunities by attending an event like this and being seen as a fringe lunatic.