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Diet enacts law to compensate forced sterilization victims

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3.2 million yen

That's IT!!!

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"As the government that carried out this law, after deep reflection, I would like to apologize from the bottom of my heart."

And if you believe he was being sincere I have some prime real estate for sale if anyone is interested!

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Yep that's it! The ministers have decided to pay them basically a months salery to defect any questions about why they weren't terminated at birth.

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Yep that's it! The ministers have decided to pay them basically a months salery to defect any questions about why they weren't terminated at birth.

Where can you make 3,200,000 yen in a month? And if you multiply that by the people who didn't give consent, you get a number so large, it has an 'E' in it. They will paying atleast half a billion dollars in compensation to all of these people. Probably much more. The sheer amount of people involved prevent the compensation from being much more than this.

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Considering that the numbers of people sterilized peaked in the 60's and 70's, they were probably just waiting for the majority of these potential claimants to either expire or grow senile so most wouldn't or couldn't collect. Shrewd, but heartless.

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Darknuts 25000 people sterilised, and probably not all still alive, but even if they all claimed it would still be less than the cost of a single frigate. So no not that large a sum in the scheme of things and hardly compensation for the wrong done to them without justification or the suffering they have and will continue to endure for their entire lives.

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Considering it was a "valid" law (not saying that this makes it any better) it is still pretty much goodwill of the Government paying them something as Compensation even if it is only ~1 years worth of Wage.

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nder a government program to prevent the birth of "inferior descendants

This is probably rhetorical but here goes. How can any nation with this train of thought remain a member of the global community? Seriously. How?

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Those stupid lawyers that protested against this look like idiots now. This needed to be done.

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This is probably rhetorical but here goes. How can any nation with this train of thought remain a member of the global community? Seriously. How?

Well, it hasn't stopped the USA, UK, Canada, Australia, Germany, Russia, China, etc....

Seriously, rather than talk about how awful this is, use the experience to consider what your own countries might be doing right now that will be seen the same way in 40 years. This is what governments do when given enough leeway. And it's always considered to be a good or necessary thing at the time

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If transgenders want a new ID while changing their gender, the government request them castration, mutilate their sexual organ. Is this considered as a sterilization? This is happening right now and I think this is evil.

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3.2 million yen per victim is not even close to being enough compensation.

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Wallace Fred Today  06:41 pm JST

nder a government program to prevent the birth of "inferior descendants

This is probably rhetorical but here goes. How can any nation with this train of thought remain a member of the global community? Seriously. How?

What the Japanese government did here was horrible, no question, but you can ask that question about almost every nation on earth.

Almost every country on earth has done things at least as bad as this -- and in many cases, far far worse.

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As time goes by it is politically correct to comment as most do here. But the question is how many think differently? As time goes by, we realize that nothing in life is certain, apart from death.

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@Wallace Fred

Maybe you should learn about history more before posting on JT. World is full of nations, kings, governments who did horrible things to its people, even family members.

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Japan was taking part in the global eugenics program which just changes its name from time to time, currently planned parenthood.

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Hmm. Wondering if I am just stating the obvious, or seeing another pattern here.

1 — The law does not require the government to contact those people whom the government reached out and touched through forced sterilization. The victims are required to apply for any compensation, and that includes those who do not know they were sterilized, those who do not follow the news, and those who are without the physical and/or mental capacity to do the footwork or paperwork.

2 — TEPCO pulled the same kind of stunt in how they finally offered compensation to victims of the Fukushima meltdown. Their 'heartfelt apologies' could be collected, provided the victims just fill out these forms — https://japantoday.com/category/national/tepco-compensation-hotline-overwhelmed-by-complaints

3 — The Korean women who were forced to serve as war-time prostitutes were also similarly dissatisfied with how both the Japanese and South Korean governments settled their compensation.

The pattern appears simple enough. 

Especially in authoritarian societies, neither institutionally caused problems nor institutionally settled solutions involve the voices of the victims. This government is about as 'democratic' as any authoritarian corporate structure. Which is to say, 'not very'.

If I were a victim of forced sterilization, I would propose the law be re-enacted and enforced on the 229 Diet Members for having a congenital, incurable, and terminal disability ...

"As the government that carried out this law, after deep reflection, I would like to apologize from the bottom of my heart."

It appears all 229 of those 'bottom of hearts — depths of reflection' can be measured in millimeters. Dogs have more empathy.

But I am not one of those particular victims, just a general, run-of-the-mill, occasional victim — and observer of patterns in human behavior which I do not expect to change, especially where group dynamics are concerned.

And based on my observation of this news, I'm am afraid we are quickly reaching the end of our shelf life as a species. Collectively, as dumb, and cold, as hammers.

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The Lawsuits that have been filed apparently asked for x10 that amount...

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Can I just say that it's better late than never? There are quite a few laws in Japan that seem way, way behind the times and so when progress is made, I want to focus on the positive...

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Almost every country on earth has done things at least as bad as this -- and in many cases, far far worse.

Eugenics was a huge component of the Progressive movement beginning in the early 1900’s. The idea was to use scientific expertise to enhance the human condition. It was especially strong in the United States so much so that some Europeans sent their own experts to America to learn from such men as Charles Davenport and Harry Laughlin.

The same types of things that occurred to these Japanese victims also occurred in the US well into the 1960’s and early 70’s. Given Hitlers excesses in Europe with his eugenics programs I don’t believe there is the same legacy in that part of the world. Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood in the US, is another prominent believer in the eugenics movement. With known associations with the Klu Klux Klan she used “science” to extol abortion among black communities in order to, per her thinking, rid society of the poor and lazy.

Eugenics is a truly horrifying legacy of the Progressive movement- one that few modern Progressives dare to discuss today.

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Japanese 'Revisionism' Abe govt avoided to specify "responsibility of the state" despite organized human rights violations of state scale.

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organized human rights violations of state scale.

It was based on the law.  Every country had this kind of law.

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Many countries had forced sterilization programs, barbaric acts by any standards.

Australia. Bangladesh. Canada. China. Denmark. Germany. India. Israel. Peru. Russia. South Africa. Sweden. Switzerland. United States. Mexico. Uzbekistan.

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