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G20 finance chiefs differ on Russia-Ukraine war, debt

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Either we have the same language or we do not sign on the final communique

In other words, if you are not with us then you are against us.

The global south has more pressing concerns than a local regional conflict in Europe which has been given more importance than it deserves.

Europe should get rid of the mindset that Europe's problems are the world’s problems.

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And what exactly will this meeting accomplish? Nothing. Nations act with self interest and all these people do is travel around, yapping about whatever. Their only goal is to keep banks fat and powerful.

A final communique that says yada, yada, yada. Curb inflation, but not too much since that’s how we make money. Pandemic, yada, yada, yada. Trade, yada yada, yada.

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With Kishida chairing the G7 and Modi chairing the G20 this certainly will be an interesting year. San Francisco hosts APEC in the fall. Hold on your hats, this will be a wild ride.

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No worries! Russian economy is still staying afloat was because China is keep trading and funding Russia that enable them to continue the war without jeopardizing. Also Russia has huge Chinese money(Reminbi) in reserve that can buy the stuffs they needed without using SWIFT. The G7 group were a group of stooges, they think everyone on earth is a vassal state and slavery any country by their arrogance demands. This war is good for China because we needs huge volume of bargain Russian oil in short time, we must expand our strategic oil reserve for an imminent long time world wide conflict. Keep being your as usual arrogance, the G7 is doing China a flavour!

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BroncoToday  04:52 pm JST

meeting host India avoided mention of the year-old war

“ India represents more humans than all the countries of NATO combined several times over.

India is the future of humanity, not NATO.

And India is siding with Russia.

So is China, Brazil, and most the Africa and the Muslim world.

The rich western former colonial powers are the minority. “

minority(?); you mean the civilized world, the free world, responsible for the most important technological advancements in the history of mankind, delivering the best products and entertainment to the world and leading the way in the fight against climate change(?); that’s the minority you’re talking about(?)

But, underlining the split with those nations which have not joined efforts to isolate the Russian economy, meeting host India avoided mention of the year-old war in inaugural remarks and said the global economy faced a range of other challenges.

India does not want the bloc to discuss sanctions on Russia and is also pressing to avoid using the word "war" in any communique, G20 officials told Reuters.

One word: embarrassing.

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In other words, if you are not with us then you are against us.

Standing by and doing nothing as two men drown another man makes you complicit in the crime. Standing by and doing nothing, not even speaking up, makes you an accomplice to Russian war crimes. Speak up for justice or be silent and guilty of being that accomplice.

And India is siding with Russia.

No, they abstained yet again in the UN vote so they still are not siding with Russia. They just continue to do business for their own sake. They call for peace but offer no advise on how to achieve it.

Any group meeting dealing with issues in the world today must mention the war and the crime of unprovoked invasion of a UN member state. It can not be ignored or swept under the carpet.

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That's exactly what your oh, so hated China is doing. Why does India get a pass?

No, they abstained yet again in the UN vote so they still are not siding with Russia. They just continue to do business for their own sake. They call for peace but offer no advise on how to achieve it.

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India just NOT qualified to host the G20 conference, she just want to get a steal from east and west when they were fighting. Modi told not to use the word "War" when discussing about Russia and Ukraine. If this is not war, I don't know what is this?

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How can you be in the G20 and abstain from any criticism of this invasion.. I put it countries like India and Turkey, for example. How would you like it if someone invaded you? I’d imagine you would want your sovereignty protected and a consensus from all G20 countries that it’s wrong that you were invaded. Obviously.

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Poo tins invasion and attempted land grab in Ukraine deliberately undermines the accepted rules based world order that ensures the safety and integrity and consequent lives and wellbeing of the inhabitants of every country including those in Asia. So no it is not a local European problem it is an existential threat to every country in the world and the only beneficiaries of this are the aggressive colonialist dictatorships like russia and CCP ruled China.

Poo tin’s war of choice is directly responsible for the food security and inflationary problems around the world. There is a direct causal link right back to russia and the demented dwarf in the kremlin.

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How can you be in the G20 and abstain from any criticism of this invasion

The countries in G20 are not against criticism of the invasion. They are against the West ganging up to isolate Russia.

I put it countries like India, for example. How would you like it if someone invaded you?

Yeah the British did that already. But they justified it saying that it was a civilizing mission to rid the world of primitive savages.

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So no it is not a local European problem it is an existential threat to every country in the world

No it's a local European problem. The US already has Europe's back so not sure why they need the support of the entire world, much of whom still have sympathies for Russia and nostalgia for the Soviet Union.

Of course, it will end up becoming the world's problem if Europe drags the entire world along with it, just like they did in the previous 2 world wars.

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These European ought be entering their own negotiation with , Putin,this clown will plunge the whole European continent in a war,when their no realistic goal that Zelensky can achieve removing Russian,all people that support Zelensky,others leaders are tired of enabling him,it finished

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These European ought be entering their own negotiation with , Putin,this clown will plunge the whole European continent in a war,when their no realistic goal that Zelensky can achieve removing Russian,all people that support Zelensky,others leaders are tired of enabling him,it finished

Ha Ha!

Two Germans parked a mangled Russian tank in front of the Russian embassy in Berlin as an anniversary gift

https://www.businessinsider.com/ruined-tank-dumped-outside-russia-embassy-in-berlin-2023-2#:~:text=A%20ruined%20Russian%20T-72%20tank%20sits%20on%20a,Vladimir%20Putin%27s%20invasion.%20%22The%20broken%20tank%20signifies%20downfall.

Poland also just delivered there promised leopard tanks to Ukraine. A company in Czech are delivering balloon HIMARS as decoys to help Ukraine. The same strategy used during D-Day on the British side to deceive the Germans!

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It's just so sad that many countries that have a survival relationship with Russia and/or China chose not to condemn Ukraine- Russia conflict as a war where the stronger one, Russia is clearly the one that started it in a foreign land, Ukraine.

Anyway, at this date and age, all nations should condemn any war and point fingers at the one that started it otherwise the villain who managed to control strong countries like Russia, China, and the USA keep creating war anywhere they are interested in. We all know about WW2 and its horrific aftermath. The next WW could obliterate the whole world if one of the villains disregards any concern for humanity. At a smaller stage, the suffering is laid on the weaker country, such as Ukraine, which should be of great concern to everyone. The majority of countries are no match to Russia's, China's, and the USA's military power; these weaker countries could be attacked by any of these powerful nations if they see fit. So far, Russia and China are the most horrible nations whose ambition or hunger for domination has been physically, and politically bullying and coercing neighboring nations; and these two could use their military power to create war with their weaker neighboring nations anytime they want.

Economic downturns can go up again but the devastations caused by war take generations to recover physically and emotionally.

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it is hard to sugar coat killing babies and bombing pregnant women. Shame on you India

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We really need to stop playing nice with countries such as China and India, we don't hold them to the same standards as the rest of us but still let them participate by the same rules. Because of this they have grown increasingly confident. Need to set up some rules if they want to participate.

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India seems to want to play both sides. Failure to condemn a despicable invasion by fascist Russia- or even call it for what it is - a WAR - is their choice. But it means that the country can never really be trusted as a true ally or friend, just a trade partner.

As an aside - I wonder if other G20 members are going to raise the issue of the horrendous pollution in India, and their unwillingness to tackle the problem?

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@ EB -

Triggered so easily. Unable to respond without getting emotional and resorting to slurs.

Also a massive persecution complex.

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Fightoo,6 month the plug will be pulled on Ukraine,

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@ Yrral -

I believe you and several other Russophiles /West/Japan-bashers made this claim 1 year ago.

The walls are closing in on fascist Russia and their desperate supporters.

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The meeting comes amid signs that the global outlook has improved from the last G20 summit in October, when a number of economies were teetering on the brink of recession amid energy and food price spikes.

Economies are quickly adjusting to life without the things that Russia sells. The longer the war goes on, the less they will need the only things that Russia has to offer.

Whatever the outcome of the 'Spectacular Military Failure', many of the richest countries in the world won't be buying Russian wares for a very long time. Biden personally C4ing the gas pipeline starting to look like a smart move.

Remember in autumn when all the Putin fans were cheerfully looking forward to northern Europeans freezing to death this winter? Didn't happen, and spring is almost here. Better luck next winter.

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Clip,they still financing their own demise,by buying his energy and Zelensky is pumping the gas

Europe isn't freezing to death as you predicted in October. Ukraine isn't surrendering as you predicted.

Nothing you predict happens.

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According to Jungle Joseph Borrell, only Europe is civilized. But it's interesting you are seemingly suggesting ancient civilizations and massive countries like India and China aren't "civilized". Is it just old fashioned racism or profound stupidity?

No. It has something to do with human rights violations, women rights, freedom of thought and expression, denial of right to education, brainwashing and disregard for human life.

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Enough of supporting Ukraine. The sanctions against Russia has actually backfired as the price of food items have increased globally. Life is getting harder and harder for usual people as sanctions keep on piling! India and China will continue to buy and sell from Russia and mind you all they make almost half the the world population. The US and its cronies can continue to put sanctions and the end result is their own citizens will face the hardship to make ends meet. Ukraine was not a member of NATO or EU and in the first place other countries shouldn’t have interfered and just let Russia and Ukraine sort out their own mess. By the way, Ukraine isn’t as innocent in this war as most people think they are. Their military even has a NAZI unit and prior to the war their military used to rape and kill innocent Ukrainians living along the border who spoke Russian language. Why doesn’t the world realize that Russia won’t lose this war and as a last resort will use nuclear weapons if the US and its stooges keep up with supplying Ukraine with weapons. End result will be destruction of the world because of The US and it’s puppet’s meddling in the Ukraine Russian war.

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Clip, even worse they are fueling Putin war against Ukrainain by buy his energy,,and only prolonging the miserable consequences of the war

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India is the next China. Cold War 2 will not be the walk in the park that Cold War 1 was for the US and Western Europe. Countries rich in resources - food, minerals and labour - are mostly on the other side of the fence and are no longer undeveloped nations. But the West will have a lot of lawyers, accountants, influencers and consultants.

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Lots of you people that support this war, support the current strategy,when NATO leaders say it fail and Ukraine will never expel Russian from their borders

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@Jim What will be a lot more costly is allowing Fascist Russia to do a successful land grab. Fascists won't stop the illegal wars for territory until they lose one.

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Europe should get rid of the mindset that Europe's problems are the world’s problems.

Then the global south should stop seeing Europe and NA as destinations for migration. I won't hold my breath on that.

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Then the global south should stop seeing Europe and NA as destinations for migration. I won't hold my breath on that.

That is for the respective countries to decide their immigration policies. The global south did not beg the West to open their borders to immigrants.

But since a part of the prosperity that the West enjoys can be traced back to exploitation of its colonies (the Great Divergence and the Great Convergence), I guess there is some case which can be built for the West to take in folks from countries which they exploited for centuries.

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This is a big sign or NWO. The west not only has failed to isolate Russia but they find a greater Euroasia block (Russia, China, India) on the rise.

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The west not only has failed to isolate Russia but they find a greater Euroasia block (Russia, China, India) on the rise.

Your block of poverty and dictatorship doesn't have a whole lot that is positive to offer the world.

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