Japanese Foreign Minister Toshimitsu Motegi, second right, and Defense Minister Nobuo Kishi, right, attend a video conference with Australian Foreign Minister Marise Payne, left on screen, and Australian Defense Minister Peter Dutton, right on screen, at the Foreign Ministry in Tokyo on Wednesday. Photo: AP/Eugene Hoshiko, Pool
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Japan, Australia hold security talks to counter China's rising assertiveness

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TARA TAN KITAOKAJune 9  11:01 pm JST

Please stop your paranoia and take care of this convid problems first. what a waste of time!!!

Which your country gifted to the entire world.

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Please stop your paranoia and take care of this convid problems first. what a waste of time!!!

It is only a waste of time if you don't mind the Chinese destroying your home, taking your freedoms (like posting on sites like this) away and you have passing Mandarin. Of course none of that will matter if they kill you. Don't be naive thinking China would not attack if Japan appears weak and vulnerable. Look how China pushes around the Philippines.

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This is a confidence building move, all the small guys need to know the big guys have their back when dealing with the Chinese.

Equally important is that it tells the Chinese that Taiwan and Japan will not fight China alone. China will have to defeat well armed and very well trained allied forces to prevail against Taiwan or Japan. Those allies are an important counterweight to China's increasingly large military.

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Danielsan is correct. It's dangerous to think that China is isolated, that's only within western media. The fact is China has been putting a lot of resources into soft-politics; investing in countries with less money, but lots of resources, and providing support so as to breed goodwill in those countries. The same as the American method really.

China has no allies that would willingly shed blood and treasure to defend her. That is quite unlike the western allies who will all fight together for mutual protection and have done so many times in the past. Sri Lanka, Seychelles, Solomon Islands and Samoa for example are not going to rush to the defense of China and have little to offer aside from their land. The people there do not like the Chinese, only their rulers do. The Chinese don't have well armed allies like Australia, Canada, and Japan willing to fight with the US and who train constantly to do so. It is not a minor distinction. The Chinese themselves feel isolated.

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Ok. So what would they be protecting them from?? lol

No lol. If an Aussie ship defending Japanese territory is under attack Japanese forces can engage the enemy force to protect the Aussie ship. Some readings of Japans Constitution would prohibit this.

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Communist China has no friends left, except for rogue totalitarian dictator states like Russia, North Korea and possibly Myanmar

Danielsan is correct. It's dangerous to think that China is isolated, that's only within western media. The fact is China has been putting a lot of resources into soft-politics; investing in countries with less money, but lots of resources, and providing support so as to breed goodwill in those countries. The same as the American method really.

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Fighto!June 9  04:38 pm JST

Communist China has no friends left, except for rogue totalitarian dictator states like Russia, North Korea and possibly Myanmar

China has a lot of clout in Africa, Central & South America, Iran, and other places. When WW3 breaks out, they won't be alone.

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A country wants to improve the lives of their citizens and a quad group of countries want to destroy that country's citizens better life. We need some kind of world court ...

That is a stretch. Nobody is limiting Chinese trade or domestic prosperity and growth, or their standards of living.

The Quad is to protect the region from Chinese military aspirations to expand its territories at the expense of all those around them. The world would much prefer a friendly China over the current expansionist colonial version run by Xi.

Japan and Australia having firmer defense ties is a welcome progression of their expanding friendship.

I look forward to being able to buy authentic Japanese ekiben at train stations around my country some time in the future. Wouldn't that be awesome.

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Please stop your paranoia and take care of this convid problems first. what a waste of time!!!

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If you mean “Hitler” @gaicukojin 6:23pm, then type: “Hitler”…

*- “@gaicuckojin 6:23pm “China's rising assertivenes = h1tlerism??” -*

less any one can even remotely understand to what you’re alluding.

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The comments are better than the article. Bravo fellas!

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@Meiyouwenti

Are you prepared to back up those ridiculous claims?

We may have been a bit rough around the edges but we have had some of the finest soldiers in the world over the years, do some research.

Glad to have the Japanese on our side now

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I can't comment n the Australian army's behaviour in Singapore in WW 2, but Australia today has a modern well equipped army with recent experience in war in the Middle -East., and peacekeeping experience in Asian countries. Moreover it has new submarines on order, so China might have difficulty in invading Taiwan or japan if it's ships are torpedoed.

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I fear that the only thing that can stop China from taking over the world is again America.

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Meiyouwenti,

Australians are bad soldiers if how they fought in WW2 is any guide (mass desertions and looting in Singapore).

It's not that you know nothing, it's that you know one thing- and your knowledge in even that is ridiculously limited, to the point that one can only imagine that you're being facetious or deliberately inflammatory.

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China's rising assertiveness

= belligerence, kleptomania, racism.

h1tlerism??

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danToday  04:51 pm JST

Australia have a pitiful navy.

From what I've seen (at port in Sydney, 2x Carriers, 3x AEGIS destroyers) the Aussies are punching so far above their weight it's laughable (in a respectful way). It's far from pitiful. What they've got rivals their larger neighbours to the north.

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This is a confidence building move, all the small guys need to know the big guys have their back when dealing with the Chinese.

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Australia have a pitiful navy.

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Haha, yeah, if China attacks I’ll call on Australia and Japan for help. That will put the fear of god in them.

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OssanAmericaToday  04:13 pm JST

* *Japan's Self-Defense Forces will protect Australian military assets in noncombat situations,

Ok. So what would they be protecting them from?? lol

I take it this means Japan can and will get up in China's face as a show of force if Australian military assets are 'caught' by China in what they consider their "territorial waters". This won't change anything physically but the unity shown will get the point across very quickly that the allies aren't playing around. China can fire on them all they want they will get fired back on.... and in greater numbers.

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@Fighto

Bring the commies to their knees!

LOL

In other headlines:

China’s Trade Boom Continues in May on Strong Global Demand

-10 ( +6 / -16 )

Great. Have a meeting then suck your teeth. Then sit back and realize you can’t or won’t do anything. Too much business depends on China no matter their saber rattling or shocking human rights record.

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Communist China has no friends left, except for rogue totalitarian dictator states like Russia, North Korea and possibly Myanmar. The free world is forming unbreakable alliances like QUAD, in order to stop the threat of China dead in their tracks. And the free world will win.

Boycott genocidal China! Bring the commies to their knees!

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Good work. China's 'wolf warrior' diplomacy has only had the effect of helping the world wake up to their true intentions.

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 Japan's Self-Defense Forces will protect Australian military assets in noncombat situations,

Ok. So what would they be protecting them from?? lol

Seriously, the writing is on the wall that the Democratic nations of the world will not allow China to disrupt the "peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait". Like by invading Taiwan. China needs to get over it.

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