Japan, Britain, Italy to speed up work on next-generation fighter jet plan

Where's German?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripartite_Pact

China is definitely going to feel the pressure, now. …… Perhaps not!

It's just like the EU with all the bureaucrats jetting around, eating lavish meals on the taxpayers dime and signing agreements which mostly do squat. Welcome to the club Japan.

Sakurasuki please read the article slowly, Germany is included as part of the G7.

Don't mention the Germans!

Italy and especially their navy has much to offer Japan. Japan aspires to operate VSTOL aircraft carriers, Kaga and Izumo. Italy has been operating such aircraft carriers since the 1980s and currently operates two with F-35s. The Italians can be great source of advice and experience for the JMSDFs VSTOL carrier effort.

Several classes of JMSDF ships already carry deck guns of Italian design so the relationship is not entirely new.

Come you masters of war You that build all the guns You that build the death planes You that build the big bombs You that hide behind walls You that hide behind desks I just want you to know I can see through your masks.

Desert Tortoise

 Kaga and Izumo. Italy has been operating such aircraft carriers since the 1980s and currently operates two with F-35s. 

 In actual operations, I do see a lot of unnecessary bureaucracy and redundant coordination. The Marine Corps, for example, have land forces, and air assets organically.

In a JSDF combined arms operation, you’d have a Navy ship, Air Force planes, and Army Marines.

You and I both know that inter-service integrated ops are much more complicated than just appointing a joint forces commander.

Michael Hooper

Sakurasuki please read the article slowly, Germany is included as part of the G7.

The article does NOT say that Germany is included in this military-industrial project.

Mike_OxlongToday  10:27 am JST

Don't mention the Germans!

A wee bit of Fawlty Towers creaping in there.

I think once the budget, financial reality kicks in, I'm sure a few others will join in.

One thing for sure, the deployment will NOT BE 2035! On top of that, will these fighters, be so high tech, so advanced, and so expensive that the politicians, don't want to risk using, or losing them. Not unlike the Russian Su-57 over Ukraine.

mmh which nation will Bt/JPN/Itlyt pay for the weapons system tech? time to watch the budget?

In the shade of lower house election, LDP regime makes accomplished fact selfishly without even deliberation at the Diet despite matter with even suspicion of constitutional violation.

PM was changed this month, But they also disrespect democratic process as ever.

 In actual operations, I do see a lot of unnecessary bureaucracy and redundant coordination. The Marine Corps, for example, have land forces, and air assets organically.

??? The Marines operate very differently than a navy does. Their emphasis is on getting the landing force ashore as rapidly as possible and then supporting it. They don't fight other navies from ships with aircraft. They don't hunt submarines. These are things navies do, not the Marines. The US Navy's big LHAs and LHDs are very different from an aircraft carrier. Even flight ops are nothing like an aircraft carrier. They don't have ski jumps because that would take away two to four helo spots and slow their ability to get the landing force ashore.

By comparison the Italian Navy (Marina Militare Italiana or MMI) has been operating VSTOL aircraft carriers as part of a naval strike force engaging enemy ships and conducting anti submarine operations. They have much operational experience they can pass to the JMSDF for their two new VSTOL aircraft carriers.

Desert Tortoise

My point was, if the Kaga or Izumo was to conduct a landing operation with air support, it would be integrating 3 different services as a joint task force, as the JMSDF have no Marines or Naval Infantry, or combat aircraft.

The possibilities of miscommunications and inter-service frictions is much higher than say, if US Marines conducted a landing operation with organic air assets. The USMC is also well accustomed to working with, and are technically part of the Navy.

China is definitely going to feel the pressure, now. …… Perhaps not!

A lion is not fazed by the barking of a few dogs...

TokyoLivingToday 01:56 am JST

Your "lion" is definitely not challenging the US.

TokyoLivingToday 01:55 am JST

And the childish sore losers from good old US, throwing a tantrum for not being included...

The US has its own program and does not need others. Also the future is probably drones.

This was the most important meeting, sorting out the acronyms. Rolls Royce will do the engines, BAE will tweak the Eurofighter/Harrier schematics for the electronics, the Italians will produce a gorgeous fuselage, Japan will do the instruction manual and pay all the bills.

Everything else will be done by Google AI. Expect it to be drone rather than piloted and ready for WW IV in 2050, if all parties are still intact after WW III.