Japan agrees to give patrol boats to Indonesia for maritime security

Jakarta only is interested in the boats because they are free.

There is zero chance they would pay for overpriced boats.

And they will probably flog them off on the aftermarket.

And they are even less interested in his anti-China 'asian nato' fantasy, which in reality is the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere 2.0, than Malaysia, if that's possible.

"Japan wants to cooperate as much as possible" in areas including the improvement of defense capabilities and energy security, Ishiba said 

Ishiba is the right man to open the spigot of military aid to Prabowo, the sock-puppet of the Indonesian military lurking behind the batik curtain of the country's fragile "democracy". In return, future energy security (for Japan) in the form of Indonesian oil, gas and coal is the intended quid pro quo of this visit.

The Japanese government can just ‘give away’ tax-payer funded items for FREE?

How about investing and/or cutting taxes in Japan for Napanese people first?!?

And in addition how much money was given? They take and take and take.

Australia gave patrol boats a few years back.

They were to be used to discover and discourage people smugglers .

Must have worked.

All the asylum seekers arriving in Australia now come by plane.

Whole lot of assumptions here. Sounds like some wishful thinking to me.

Jakarta only is interested in the boats because they are free.

There is zero chance they would pay for overpriced boats.

And they will probably flog them off on the aftermarket.

And they are even less interested in his anti-China 'asian nato' fantasy, which in reality is the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere 2.0, than Malaysia, if that's possible.

Waste of tax payers money.

Somebody has to pay for those boats on the mainland. Guess who? ;)

Why? Are the Philippines and USA about to attack Indonesia?

Ishiba, who is close to the Chinese Communist Party, has said something unnecessary again.

As was the case with Jokowi, Indonesia is a country that is extremely vulnerable to bribery and entertainment from China. With the failure of the high-speed rail project, it is not a country that can be trusted.

There is absolutely no need to offer aid to a country where the influence of the Chinese Communist Party is strong.

JJEToday  04:50 pm JST

And they are even less interested in his anti-China 'asian nato' fantasy, which in reality is the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere 2.0, than Malaysia, if that's possible.

The only country today pushing a Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere is CHINA.

Message posted by PM Ishiba during his trip to Indonesia does not mention China even one time. You do have to appreciate the editorial choices of Kyodo and JT staff.

“New Leadership, New Hope” by Prime Minister ISHIBA to Kompas (Indonesia)

https://www.mofa.go.jp/s_sa/sea2/id/pageite_000001_00741.html

That is a flowery term for the China's BRI which is help build needed infrastructure in Indonesia and other ASEAN countries.

he only country today pushing a Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere is CHINA.

Please forgive me if my understanding is somewhat lacking but my understanding is that Japan's imperialist EACPS featured invasion, murder, rape, overthrow of governments and wealth extraction. Ethnic Chinese across the region in particular were singled out for violence and death.

China and Korea have not contributed at all to the independence of Asian nations.

Japan's invasion, murder, rape, subversion of governments, and exploitation of wealth against ASEAN countries? lol

[Japan is evaluated for Indonesia's independence movement]

Mohammed Nathir, former Indonesian Prime Minister

"Asia's hope was the destruction of the colonial system. The Greater East Asia War was a war waged by Japan on behalf of us Asians."

June 2023. The Emperor and Empress, who made an official visit to Indonesia, visited the Kalibata Heroes Cemetery and laid flowers at the white central memorial monument with five bamboo spears as its motif. This Heroes Cemetery is the country's largest "memorial space," opened in 1954 in a lush area of ​​South Jakarta to commemorate the "patriots" who died in the war of independence against the Netherlands in the late 1940s. It also contains the gravestones of 28 remaining Japanese soldiers.

Netherlands

Mayor Santin Amsterdam, former Minister of the Interior

The real culprits are the Westerners who invaded and wielded power. Japan lost the war, but the liberation of East Asia was achieved. In other words, the Japanese military ended by expelling all of the victorious nations from East Asia. As a result, the Asian nations each achieved their independence. Japan's achievements are great, and the Japanese who fought and shed their blood are the greatest contributors. The Japanese people should stop despising themselves and...recover their pride.

For China 3 countries immediately come to mind. It is likely you can make arguments for other SE nations.

Mongolia

Vietnam

North Korea

China and Korea have not contributed at all to the independence of Asian nations.

To lionize former IJA soldiers who were involved in much worse than the crimes listed below is really something.

The sentiment changed, however, as between 4 and 10 million Indonesians were recruited as forced labourers (romusha) on economic development and defense projects in Java. Between 200,000 and 500,000 were sent away from Java to the outer islands, and as far as Burma and Siam. Of those taken off Java, not more than 70,000 survived the war. Four million people died in the Dutch East Indies as a result of famine and forced labour during the Japanese occupation, including 30,000 European civilian internee deaths.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_occupation_of_the_Dutch_East_Indies#End_of_occupation

deanzaZZRToday 04:02 am JST

For China 3 countries immediately come to mind. It is likely you can make arguments for other SE nations.

Mongolia

Vietnam

North Korea

North Korea is not independent yet.

Is Wikipedia, which anyone can edit, proof of history?

My stomach hurts from laughing since the New Year lol

December 29, 1911, is when Mongolia's new history began.

There's no way China could have helped in that year.

The United States has invaded Vietnam once, but China is the country that has invaded Vietnam the most.

North Korea is not even recognized as a country.

It's just a terrorist organization. And China supports that terrorist organization.

World Mysteries

38 million people died in the Sino-Japanese War (self-reported by China, which claims to be a victim)

300,000 civilians killed in the Nanjing Massacre (doesn't match UNICEF statistics)

200,000 girls taken from the Korean Peninsula by the Japanese military (no one witnessed it)

4-10 million forced laborers in Indonesia? (There were no family registries and no investigations.)

The Bataan Death March: 80,000 people (not including soldiers who could not walk 14km a day and deserters.)

This incident is often considered a symbol of the cruelty of the Japanese military, but there are no family registries and no documents such as the names, ages, or total number of victims, so it is completely unknown. There are also no clear witnesses. And it is conveniently said that the Japanese military burned all the documents.

In reality, the Japanese military cooperated with nationalist activists such as Sukarno and Hatta, who had been oppressed by the East Indies colonial government, and further promoted Indonesians to high-ranking positions in the military government, lifting the ban on using the term "Indonesia" in public places, thus adopting a preferential policy for Indonesians that was different from that of the Dutch, who discriminated against and oppressed Indonesians.

Furthermore, on September 3, 1944, the Koiso Statement was issued, which recognized Indonesia's future independence. In March 1945, the Koiso Committee for Preparatory Investigation of Independence was established, with Sukarno, Hatta and others deliberating on a post-independence constitution. On August 7, the Independence Preparatory Committee was established with Sukarno as chairman, and Indonesia began to walk towards independence.

If Japan had forced labor and massacred the local residents under such circumstances, there would have been a fierce independence movement against Japan, but it seems that has not happened.

Some people never criticize Western colonial rule, but continue to cry out that the Japanese military rule was cruel.

The United Nations disagrees with you on that, chief.

North Korea is not independent yet.

@Agent_Neo

Some people never criticize Western colonial rule, but continue to cry out that the Japanese military rule was cruel.

Make no mistake.

Japanese military rule was 100% harsh and cruel.