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gogogo
Sorry not sorry, still doesn't understand.
Yubaru
Really now? Better to have folks who run around cheating on their opposite sex partners, reading porn magazines at conbini, or getting washed off at a local soapland type of guest instead!
I would suggest that, at least for the same sex couples I personally know, they have higher morals, and ethic standards than this butt-head!
Daniel Naumoff
He is right, it does not correspond with the Japanese traditions.
To let someone be a guest or not is, however, a decision made by the hosts, meaning the Emperor himself. And I doubt he would sign under such a stupid decision. He had all the time in the world to stop hating on others. Too bad politicians can't take a moment to do the same.
Pukey2
So what is he regretful about, then? Oh, that's right, it was regretful that this was picked up by the media and so many other people.
Alfie Noakes
Another day, another elderly Nippon Kaigi throwback with his head in 1930.
smithinjapan
I've tweeted his comment, so it's getting out there. Too late for it not to become international, though it won't be much of an issue beyond a mere embarrassment for the LDP. Still, might help a little if it makes the rounds and causes a stir -- that's the only thing that changes politics in Japan; how they are viewed by people outside.
dcog9065
A moronic comment, but the silver lining here is the massive backlash from the Japanese public. It means that attitudes are positively changing at a very fast rate
Shane Sommerville
minority trying to change the world of the majority
Goodlucktoyou
I'd like to see him say that just before the Olympics? As LGBT make up 10% of the worlds population, he would be front page news around the world.
Bintaro
@Daniel Naumoff
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_Japan
Homosexuality was common in Japan between monks or samurais.
Anyway, since when are same sex relations a "tradition" ?
If the partner is not invited, the guest don't need to go.
Luddite
Bigot.
gokai_wo_maneku
Evidently Takeshita does not know anything about Japanese traditions. Before modernization, gay/bisexual relations were common, as is particularly well documented among the samurai. Read about Saigo Takamori for example (you can see his statue at Ueno Park). And remind me again what the "liberal" in LDP means.
gokai_wo_maneku
PS Mr. Takeshita, not knowing about Japanese custom, look up the ancient meaning of the word 稚児.
Strikebreaker555
He should be forced to be the front man in a Gay-pride!!;)
Jimizo
The sound of a dinosaur breaking wind to kick the weekend off.
puregaijin
Well, remove gays, remove this, remove that..... and that. and you’re left with the perfect situation. One where performers and non performers are rewarded equally. One where some people thrive.
stocktrader
I miss the good ol days when sex was thought of as a means of reproducing, unlike today where it is seen as a mere pleasure of the flesh. Love is love. If youre gay, good for you! Be merry and don't break the law.
As far as the state level is concerned, probably don't want to promote mental disorders
Aly Rustom
Buddy you're in the wrong political party
Aly Rustom
Ok. Lets see.
*Nanshoku*** relationships inside monasteries were typically pederastic: an age-structured relationship where the younger partner is not considered adult. The older partner, or nenja (念者"lover" or "admirer"), would be a monk, priest or abbot, while the younger partner was assumed to be an acolyte (稚児, chigo), who would be a prepubescent or adolescent boy;[6] the relationship would be dissolved once the boy reached adulthood (or left the monastery). Both parties were encouraged to treat the relationship seriously and conduct the affair honorably, and the nenja might be required to write a formal vow of fidelity.[7] Outside of the monasteries, monks were considered to have a particular predilection for male prostitutes, which was the subject of much ribald humor.[8]**
During the Tokugawa period, some of the Shinto gods, especially Hachiman, Myoshin, Shinmei and Tenjin, "came to be seen as guardian deities of **nanshoku" (male–male love).[10] Tokugawa-era writer Ihara Saikaku joked that since there are no women for the first three generations in the genealogy of the gods found in the Nihon Shoki, the gods must have enjoyed homosexual relationships—which Saikaku argued was the real origin of nanshoku.[10]**
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_Japan
Lets also not forget that Matsuo Basho, Japan's MOST CELEBRATED poet wrote ALOT about homosexual love and had taken homosexual lovers.
Jonathan Prin
Even if he is a dinosaur and old fashioned, I' d like to input some sense:
this politician issued an opinion, not a rant
if it is modern to accept gay sex and to free every's one right but it must be discussed when a right not yet implemented in Japan to be used in front of others all the more so as it would be to the Emperor and Empress, at least formally speakingImagine an islamic leader coming with his 4 official wives. Acceptable to all ?
I wished some gays were not as full of certainty as some heteros are.
Pukey2
jonathan:
Who cares? It's not as if he's forcing everyone else to have four wives and he's not getting tax credits in Japan for each wife.
garypen
It definitely doesn't mean Liberal, that's for sure.
garypen
Ummm. What?
Luis David Yanez
I would be more surprised if a Jiminto politician didn't said something homophobic.
Jonorth
@stocktrader
First of all, what does sex have to do with any of this? Second of all, don't tell me people only now see sex as something pleasant. That simply isn't true. Your whole comment is just... wrong.
Jimizo
No, offer an opinion and be prepared to have that opinion considered. Difference of opinion is fine and useful.
Why is discrimination against law-abiding citizens with different sexual preferences okay?
Your answer had better be stupendously good.
Strangerland
Change ‘homosexuality’ to ‘black people’, and tell me how you feel about that statement.
toshiko
Japanese tradition. differ now. Girls ad boys went different shoo until GHQ made Japan coed. Separated society was tradition.
garypen
Many of those conservatives and religious right types aren't too accepting of Blacks, or anyone who doesn't share their race, nationality, or religion, either. So, there's a good chance it wouldn't change the feelings too much.
Strangerland
I picked 'black people' specifically, as the poster who had made the comment about homosexuals is black. I suspect someone making the statement he made towards black people would infuriate him, while he put it out their with no problem for homosexuals. The point of my comment was to give him some perspective on his comment.
Toasted Heretic
Sex has always been a pleasure of the flesh as well as a means of reproducing. And why not?
Are there any laws being broken?
Jonathan Prin
Most people here are bashful whatever opinion is issued. Too bad.
The more it is that way, the more counterbalance you'll get, whatever theme of segregation is discussed (race, sexual orientation, political opinion...).
Accepting differences does not mean to embrace them.