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Obama to skip Abe's state funeral; Hagerty to attend

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That’s politics and politicians for you, alive they shower you with warm praise, dead you are nothing to them and a serving of cold shoulder it is.

17 ( +29 / -12 )

Considering Abe ran off to visit Trump right after the 2016 election snubbing the sitting president, Obama, it sounds fine to me.

-8 ( +33 / -41 )

Exactly, what about Trump? He and “Prime minister Abi” were the best of friends less we forget. Hamburgers, golf, sumo trophies. C’mon Orange one. Do your friend a solid.

-6 ( +24 / -30 )

Agree with others - while I'm sure Obama and Abe were friends, they weren't the golfing selfie buddies Abe and the spray-tanned, orange hair dyed, drama queen from Queens were....

But then, he is under multiple criminal investigations and I'm sure the DOJ doesn't want him jetting off overseas...

As close as Japan is to Russia, I'd say that's a wise decision...

2 ( +28 / -26 )

it is wrong not to invite president trump.

-19 ( +8 / -27 )

Obama to skip Abe's state funeral; 

Good. Its beneath him.

Considering Abe ran off to visit Trump right after the 2016 election snubbing the sitting president, Obama, it sounds fine to me.

EXACTLY!! THIS!!

Agree with others - while I'm sure Obama and Abe were friends, 

I heard they actually disliked each other.

-9 ( +28 / -37 )

The government will hold the funeral "as an official state event to express the nation's respect and condolences as a whole, and we will invite representatives of each country to this occasion," Kishida has said.

the nation's respect and condolences as a whole??

Abe was reviled as PM except by the right wing of Japan and the US and those in US intelligence, and that's about it. There was SOME public sympathy for him when he was slain- but that evaporated in light of the ties to the moonies.

Kishida is full of it, and he is just pandering to the right wing.

-7 ( +28 / -35 )

Former U.S. President Barack Obama is no longer expected to attend the state funeral of assassinated former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe to be held later this month, U.S. and Japanese sources said Saturday.

My respect for the former President can only grow.

13 ( +23 / -10 )

The U.S. delegation to Japan will be led by Vice President Kamala Harris.

Should have just sent Pelosi.

-3 ( +17 / -20 )

Obama knew Abe well, probably why he's not attending.

-2 ( +25 / -27 )

If nothing is to be gained…Obama will disappear.

-16 ( +6 / -22 )

Obama/Clinton were the instigators of the soft coup that ousted Hatoyama Yukio in 2010 and led to the return of Abe and the LDP. Now that Abe's murder has led to the exposure of his family's multi-generational connections to the fascist cult Unification Church, the US political elite are distancing themselves from the scandal.

-8 ( +13 / -21 )

The nation's condolences and respect as a whole

However the whole nation doesn't approve of the state funeral

And we will invite representatives of each country to this occasion, " Kishida has said

Is this true ? Because i don't believe it !

Has Kishida actually invited representatives of each and every country in the world to attend the occasion ?

Was Russia , Nth Korea ,China and the Pope all invited ?

-21 ( +6 / -27 )

Obama to skip Abe's state funeral; Hagerty to attend

downgrade. Who else is dropping out?

smart moves

-6 ( +12 / -18 )

There now follows a party political funeral on behalf if the LDP.

Paid for by your tax. Personally I would prefer the money was burnt to keep warm.

0 ( +13 / -13 )

Best not to be seen close to such a controversial figure as Abe.

4 ( +14 / -10 )

it is wrong not to invite president trump.

Who needs that clown at a funeral??..

12 ( +19 / -7 )

And this helps us pay our bills how? So why should anyone care?

-4 ( +6 / -10 )

Did the LDP Government actually invite 195 countries representatives ?

Show us the proof kishida !

-6 ( +7 / -13 )

kyushubill

And this helps us pay our bills how?

It doesn't. Quite the opposite. It is using our hard earned taxes to fund a pork barrel funeral. Can't believe Abe's dead and yet he's still fleecing the country.

So why should anyone care?

We don't. I've personally said that I'm fed up with hearing about the damn funeral. I'm resigned to the fact that the LDP is governing like a feudal gov and doesn't care about the will of the people, otherwise the funeral wouldn't go on. But it is and fine. so be it.

I just wish we didn't have to hear about it every day

-6 ( +14 / -20 )

In the UK, it's usually the case that a state funeral is held for a monarch. Winston Churchill's was an exception in that point. But it is said a state funeral for Churchill was decided to be held by the decree of Queen Elizabeth II.

A state funeral for Shinzo Abe, however, decided on by the Kishida cabinet alone, hence causing pros and cons about it.

7 ( +8 / -1 )

Why not invite Trump?

That would be so funny. Like watching a Japanese funeral changing into an American carnival.

6 ( +13 / -7 )

It should also be added that Trump is such a showboat that he’d be jealous of the corpse if it received more attention than him.

19 ( +22 / -3 )

President Obama knew what a criminal and revisionist Abe was.

Abe did not like that Pres. Obama was too smart for him. Pres. Obama was famous made world leader moves and was praised. This is still happening after his presidency. The average person around the world would not know Abe from Ken Watanabe.

Considering Abe ran off to visit Trump right after the 2016 election snubbing the sitting president, Obama, it sounds fine to me.

trump's presidency was riddled with scandals and ended in humiliation. Similarly, Abe's role as leader was filled with scandals and embarrassment, and he had to quit because of them.

(trump = Abe) - Bird's of a feather!!!

-7 ( +12 / -19 )

President Obama knew what a criminal and revisionist Abe was.

Abe did not like that Pres. Obama was too smart for him. Pres. Obama was famous made world leader moves and was praised. This is still happening after his presidency. The average person around the world would not know Abe from Ken Watanabe.

Considering Abe ran off to visit Trump right after the 2016 election snubbing the sitting president, Obama, it sounds fine to me.

trump's presidency was riddled with scandals and ended in humiliation. Similarly, Abe's role as leader was filled with scandals and embarrassment, and he had to quit because of them.

(trump = Abe) - Bird's of a feather!!!

best post I read all day!

-15 ( +7 / -22 )

In 2016, Obama became the first sitting U.S. president to visit the site of the U.S. atomic bombing of Hiroshima, accompanied by Abe who was prime minister at the time.

Back then and for a very short time was Obama's visit to Hiroshima written up to...Kishida Fumio, which made sense as Kishida was Abe's Minister of Foreign Affairs from December 2012 to August -2017. Then Abe hijacked all laurels from the visit, which was made possible by "friendly" far-right news outlets (Sankei Shimbun and Fuji TV).

dbsaiya

Considering Abe ran off to visit Trump right after the 2016 election snubbing the sitting president, Obama, it sounds fine to me.

Which (again) makes pretty much sense, Abe being a right-wing populist in the Trump vein, living a sheltered life in an echo-chamber silver-spoon fed by the sycophants surrounding him.

As for the memorial, and for all intents and purposes have the wheels already fallen off this whole nonsense pretty much from day one onwards.

From an international point of view, it was supposed to be a tribute to the "international figure" that Abe alledgedly was and his so-called "diplomatic achievements".

If you want to look at international diplomacy, you need to look at...the French. If there is one thing that the French are known for and respected for, it's their diplomatic efforts and skills and from day one onwards, did Macron snub the memorial and now it's...disgraced one-term ex-French president Sarkozy currently spending most of his post-presidential time in French courts (already one guilty verdict!) who will attend. Ex-chancellor Merckel was said to be coming...until 2 weeks ago and even before the Queen passed away. Ex-president Obama was said to be coming...until a few days ago.

It was reported that two weeks ago (and before the Queen passed away) did half of the 190 countries to which invitations were sent not yet even bother to answer back...

But even before that, did the timing of the memorial ceremony make no sense whatsoever.

Even if putting the Queen's death aside as nobody could foresee it, it was still the very week after the UN General Assembly and in the month of September. Essentially, September marks the end of summer recess and all upper/lower houses, senates, parliaments and whatsits do go back to work. The Gaimusho knows that.

The Gaimusho should also know that in the US the mid-term elections are looming, in France Marcon who won the presidential election has to deal with a fractioned parliament, the Brits are changing their PM, the Brazilians have a tense and potentially explosive presidential election coming up, as foreseen did the far-right enter Swedish parliament while in Italy are the fascists slated to win big in the coming national election. All these national elections will have regional effects in North and South America as well as Europe.

Let's also not forget the ongoing fall-out from the COVID-crisis, the fall-out from the ongoing war in Ukraine, the tension around Taiwan, the worldwide cost of living crisis and inflation and the climate emergency. Basically, the whole city is on fire, everybody is running around firefighting and Japan is setting up a booth at a street corner to sell some god-awful lemon juice and wondering why nobody is showing up??? This for real???

Essentially, between an event where heads want to go to pay respect (and be seen) which is the Queen's funeral (9/19), an event where heads want to go and act/work (and be seen) which is the UN General Assembly (9/21-9/23) and an event were heads would go if they have time on their hands (and where only Japan would like them to be seen) which is Abe's funeral (9/27) it would basically mean that heads of governments/states would be away for 10 days or so while there are national and international emergencies all across the board. Something will need to give and the most likely candidate is pretty obvious.

On the national Japanese stage is the population overwhelmingly against the memorial while the J-gov seems to be in panic-mode with invitations being sent out to all current but also former elected representatives (not later than yesterday was a guy on showing his invitation and stating on TV how baffled he was to having been invited as he left politics...back in 2016 after...an interrupted first term in parliament). Other current and ex-parliamentarians showed their invitations with handwritten and tipp-exed corrections changing the dates on this invitations making the whole thing look at best like amateur hour or at worst like a wheel on fire.

The J-gov is hellbent on holding the memorial and it will not be canceled, we all know that. But the population is equally hellbent on crashing the party. For all intends and purposes have both sides already succeeded in their aims.

While the LDP will have its memorial, the population (and international circumstances / priorities) have already made it as hollow in meaning as the Olympics were. Just yet another pyrrhic "victory" to an LDP completely disconnected from all or any reality with Kishida's approval rating poised to continue to crash through the floor after that. Well, that's 事業自得 (what goes around comes around) to ya.

You simply can't make this up...What a waste!

-4 ( +12 / -16 )

I'm sure Mr Abe will be disappointed...

-8 ( +2 / -10 )

Okinawa Governor Denny Tamaki is reported not to attend Abe’s state funeral, actually a memorial or remembrance service. Condolences have already been sent by Tamaki to the bereaved family, the report says.

Flags will not be hoisted half-mast at the prefectural government building either, it is reported.

5 ( +10 / -5 )

blue- Fantastic post!

Okinawa Governor Denny Tamaki is reported not to attend Abe’s state funeral, actually a memorial or remembrance service. Condolences have already been sent by Tamaki to the bereaved family, the report says.

Flags will not be hoisted half-mast at the prefectural government building either, it is reported.

Good on Gov Tamaki! Well done!

-7 ( +10 / -17 )

Abe was only important in Japan or with non-Japanese speaking journalists who only understood to Abe's catch phrases like the most ridiculous "Abenomics".

0 ( +9 / -9 )

Sorry that Obama coudn't make it - whassup with that Barry!?

But Hagerty an excellent representative for the States. Welcome back Ambassador!

-4 ( +6 / -10 )

Open-minded

Agree mate!

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