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Trump tells Abe he wants free, fair trade with Japan; pledges to help with abduction issue

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I really wish this clown would get his facts straight. South Korea isn't even in the TPP!

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The only way to free and fair trade is the free flow BOTH goods and services. Adam Smith said that the backbone of free trade is the freedom of movement of labor.

True free trade exists in the trans Tasman travel agreement where OZ and NZ have dropped ALL tariffs reciprocally and Australians and New Zealanders can move freely and live and work in each other’s countries without hassle. The EU has that but there are too many rules within the block to call it free trade.

Does Trump Really want Something like a trans Tasman travel agreement with Japan? Does Abe?

I doubt it.

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Trump doesn't seem to understand no one wants crappy American cars that fall apart. Consumers have spoken.

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Trump nonetheless broke with the usual diplomatic niceties, 

"Broke?" With Trump there never have been any diplomatic niceties, please get things right for once.

Trump never has been nor ever will be either a diplomat nor politician.

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Its not just cars, it is obvious American cars do not have much place in Japan. The issue is more about textiles, metals and agriculture products. I agree with the trade imbalance hurting America for so many years it is about time the agreement is more balanced.

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I really wish this clown would get his facts straight. South Korea isn't even in the TPP!

They are considering joining the new one, so they may actually be speaking to the US about it.

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"The word 'reciprocal' is that when you have a car come in, we charge you a tax. When we have a car go through Japan, which aren’t allowed to go there, we have to take down the barriers and we have to pay the same tax," Trump said.

Ole' spanky is at it again! Not only can he not get his facts straight, he can't even tell a lie that's appropriate for this century. US cars in fact can and are sold in Japan (it's just no one wants them), but heavy car manufacturing is not the kind of industry a leading innovator this century should even be moving towards. There is a limit to how many people want to be lashed all their lives to a ton of metal in increasingly urban living spaces, and we reached that limit ages ago. Now the only way to keep numbers up is to invent new features (adding on-board computer consoles/GPS/mapping added a little, but there is a limit to how much can really be done with that before it becomes a safety/distraction issue) or relying on planned obsolescence, which a lot of consumers are getting sick of.

Trump doesn't realize the world has moved on from when he was a young man. Like the people who vote for him, he's just angry about his age.

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Trump is looking out for American workers and that is what he promised to do!

If I were an American worker I would be extremely pleased!

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Take meat for example, Japan imports more meat from Australia than US yet almost half of Japan's economy is based on sales in the US.

This si just one example of what needs to change. It is not about cars.

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The humiliation for Abe going to see trump is real.Every JT pic has him looking miserable as... Abe is of no use to trump beyond photo ops.After teasing about maybe rejoining TPP, has him over to say hell no.LMAO 2 times.

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" it is obvious American cars do not have much place in Japan."

That view may have been relevant in the 1970s, but it sounds ridiculous today. The Ford Focus in my Tokyo neighborhood looks like all the other local cars with its right-hand drive and it fits snuggly in the owner's tiny carport. I believe its platform was jointly developed with Mazda.

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I would love to see some cheaper home remodeling materials for example marble tiles, counter tops, insulation, wood flooring, cabinets, etc. it's just sad more Japanese are not into DIY projects.

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No doubt that Trump will get what he wants, President Trump has a lame duck in his hands.

Maybe Abe-San must remember Trump that Japan has a 12 trillion dollars of national debt and will not be able to pay 75% of cost US military facilities on Japanese lands, 30% would be a fair value!

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"This is a very exciting meeting for me, because I like this maybe the best. I love the world of finance and the world of economics, and probably, it's where I do the best," Trump said, playing up his business credentials.

Comedy gold.

"If what Dodson says is true, it wouldn’t be the first time that the Trumps have been connected to Russian money. A number of reports have indicated the Trump Organization received substantial financing from Russia when the business was struggling in the mid 1990s and again during the Great Recession, since major U.S. banks had refused to loan money to him. Most recently, Reuters reported that a group of 63 Russia billionaires have invested nearly $100 million in several Trump properties in Florida. Donald Trump Jr. himself famously said in 2008 that “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/05/eric-trump-russia-investment-golf-course

His Scottish golf courses are losing money hand over fist as well.

http://fortune.com/2017/10/09/trump-golf-courses-scotland/

Trump is a liar, a fraud and a failed businessman kept afloat by Russian money and dodgy dealings. And his old mates in the mob.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-2016-mob-organized-crime-213910

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The abduction issue is used by Abe to appeal to Japanese people. But most Japanese people are not interested in the issue and even if some of them still alive in North Korea, they have reasons to remain there and do not want to return to Japan. North Korea said the issue was settled. I agree. North Korea declared dead are dead.

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We have a very big deficit

eg a surplus of imports versus exports.

See what I did there, I just reworded it?

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Lose Lose situation for Abe Japan. Abductees aren’t coming back and concessions made in bi-lateral trade.

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Well we’ll see what happens...

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Trump said "We import millions and millions of Japanese cars and we don't tax them."

Japanese cars are manufactured in the States providing American jobs.

"We buy so much but them not so much."

U.S. goods and services trade with Japan totaled an estimated $270.7 billion in 2016. Exports were $107.9 billion; imports were $162.8 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade deficit with Japan was $54.9 billion in 2016.

So its not correct that Japan does not import American goods and services.

Trump said "I don't like the TTP, we're going to do free trade."

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Pretty much doing what he said he would from the get go.

Looking for a deal for America ally or not.

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Trump said

"The Winter Olympics were a big success because of me, look at the ticket sales, they sold them all."

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"When we have a car go through Japan, which aren’t allowed to go there," Other than Trump's sentence being incoherent, is he saying US cars aren't allowed in Japan? Then what are the US car dealerships selling? I always thought that they were selling American cars.

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Trump said he knows that the abductees were "one of the truly most important things on Shinzo's mind."

The president said he wants "to see these families reunited as soon as possible."

Summit breakthrough. Credit where it is due. All other US Presidents, for example Obama,never helped with the Abductees iddue. Trump has guaranteed USA will help return the stolen Japanese citizens. Not decided yet whether this will be diplomacy pressure on Kim, or US Special Forces operation to free them and bring them home. But PM Abe and Trump will win even more respect in Japan when the abductees are finally returned,hopeflly very soon now. Amazing news today.

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There are a lot of very succesful American companies in Japan. They did their homework. How about the othe American companies doing there homework, finding out what Japanese actually want and need, and then coming over. Trade deficit problem solved.

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Trump couldn't help himself and awarded himself a Winter Olympic gold metal.

Trump has guaranteed USA will help return the stolen Japanese citizens. 

Trump also stated that the Japanese abductees will not be a condition for meeting with Kim. Most Japanese don't have much respect for Trump.

Trump also said

"China does not import our cars, not a single one, and when they does it taxes 25%." He also stated the trade deficit with China is $500 billion when it's $375 billion. Guess $500 billion just sounds better.

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Trump doesn't seem to understand no one wants crappy American cars that fall apart. Consumers have spoken.

Sorry, but we don't live in 1970 anymore.

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Ganbare Japan!Today  10:04 am JST

Summit breakthrough. Credit where it is due. All other US Presidents, for example Obama,never helped with the Abductees iddue. 

Neither has Trump. Saying you'll do something and then actually doing it aren't exactly the same thing.

But PM Abe and Trump will win even more respect in Japan...

Even more respect? So you actually think they've got some respect at the moment?

...when the abductees are finally returned,hopeflly very soon now.

Keep hoping. It's never going to happen.

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Just remember Japan. Trump has already sidelined you re North Korea.

Just remember Japan Trump is a compulsive liar.

If it looks like a trump, sounds like a trump, smells like a rat then reason states IT'S A TRUMP.

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@yakyak: Ask anyone with an American car, they just fall apart, the plastic comes loose, the rubber glue falls off... I know it sounds like a stereotype but I know 2 people with hummers, 1 escalade and 2 people with Jeeps in Japan and they all say the same and showed me it all falling apart.

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Serious question here: Who pays for the Japan delegations accommodations at Mar-a-la-go? Is this our tax yen going straight into Donald's bank accounts? Or does the host / host country pay? (If it's US tax-dollars, that's on them).

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PM Abe failed to secure what he really wanted and needed. The lifting or easing of tariffs on Japanese steel and aluminum. We don't even know if he won his golf game with Trump. Abe was Trumped, again!

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These photo say it all, no one is listening to the blowhard, and as well as the Japanese contingent , Kelly looks totally pissed off.

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Take meat for example, Japan imports more meat from Australia than US yet almost half of Japan's economy is based on sales in the US.

I'm sick to near death of seeing American beef at the supermarkets. It's just about all American. Maybe Australian beef is more common here but not in my area.

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I wonder if, when Abe's nipping at Trump's heels and waiting for a bone, he realized the bone is what's left after Trump gets what he wants, and none of what Japan wants is on it. And yet he'll STILL smile and take it. I actually am a little with Trump on him forcing Japan to open the markets, I have to say. This is the only way they are going to drop some of their BS protectionist rackets.

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This week we bought American Angus Beef, great quality and price. Japanese black beef slice great quality, the best and still a good price and 40% off. Australian steak good quality and price.

American pork block good quality, size and price. Japanese pork block good price but half size of the American one. Japanese pork slice both good quality and price.

Japanese lamb steaks and lamb slice.

And my favorite which are not aways available beef spare ribs about 30 cms long, five of them ¥1,000. I will make beef nabe in a slow cooker. Cook the ribs for about three hours in a red wine sauce.

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Zichi

I'm wondering if you buy some higher quality US pork chops because what I get at the average grocery store here is only good for casseroles IMO. If I fry up the chops in the pan, it's always Japanese pork chops.

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FizzBit

Zichi I'm wondering if you buy some higher quality US pork chops because what I get at the average grocery store here is only good for casseroles IMO. If I fry up the chops in the pan, it's always Japanese pork chops.

No I've not bought any pork chops in my years here. Wife does not like meat with fat on it. We only buy pork block for roasting and the very thin pork slices which we use with Chinese fried dry noodles, the one which comes as a crispy block. Winter time we will also make a pork soup. Coat the pork slice in starch and then boil until the blood disappears so its cooked but still very soft.

You could try The Meat Guy, bone in pork chop ¥450.

https://www.themeatguy.jp/en/meat/pork-cuts.html

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So our dear leader got nothing from America, just a photo and some gossip about a few people in the 1970's. He did get to stay trumps hotel though. And escape his scandals.

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My Japanese friend is about 5 foot tall, so for him to buy or drive one of the USA gas guzzler 4x4 cars he would not be able to see over the steering wheel! And when he drove it into his small street he would probably demolish all of the walls down the street as it is so friggin wide! there may be some US cars that are small enough to get down small streets, also will most of them be able to be parked into one of the auto matic parking carparks?

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Here in Japan there are many huge 4x4's and SUV's . The people in my area park on the wider roads then go home up the mountains and narrow streets in various ways. Bikes, scooters, little cars, electric card. Some of those 4x4 are very expensive.

The Toyota Mega Cruiser and the FJ Cruiser. Looks like a Hummer.

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True free trade exists in the trans Tasman travel agreement where OZ and NZ have dropped ALL tariffs reciprocally and Australians and New Zealanders can move freely and live and work in each other’s countries without hassle

You are comparing the U.S and Japan with two countries that were almost one in a historical context. The relationship between Australia/N.Z has always been a familial one. You are also talking about two relative small economies by global standards. The dynamics between the U.S and Japan is very different.

I don't think there is any doubt that Japan is going to have to give ground and if I was Abe I would be looking to make it as painless as possible.

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Eradicating the USA's trade deficet with Japan, and levelling the playing field is long overdue. It's good to see a President who really meams business with this.

Still seeing comments derived from the 40 year old out of date script (American cars are gas guzzlers, they are too big, Japanese don't want them etc etc).

Te to change the record, I think.

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I actually am a little with Trump on him forcing Japan to open the markets, I have to say. This is the only way they are going to drop some of their BS protectionist rackets.

Smith- You really hit the mark with that one. Agree 100%.

Still seeing comments derived from the 40 year old out of date script (American cars are gas guzzlers, they are too big, Japanese don't want them etc etc).

Te to change the record, I think.

Exactly. And if the Japanese don't want them they don't have to buy them

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Still seeing comments derived from the 40 year old out of date script (American cars are gas guzzlers, they are too big, Japanese don't want them etc etc).

What we're not seeing is advertising of all these new fuel-efficient, eco-compliant, compact, right-hand drive American cars. You wanna sell your product, you gotta make it known. If the image of American cars in Japan is big clunky gas-guzzlers, then surely it's up to the people trying to sell the cars to change the image. People in the market for a new car aren't going to go out of their way to check up on a 40-year-old image when the dealerships are well stocked with good-looking, fuel-efficient nicely sized vehicles aimed at the local market, manufactured by local companies with a proven record of quality.

If you want to sell your cars, you need to make the effort.

I have never seen a TV commercial for an American car in Japan.

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“to play golf is to spoil an otherwise enjoyable walk"

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The EU has that but there are too many rules within the block to call it free trade.

Based on what knowledge?

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Exactly. And if the Japanese don't want them they don't have to buy them.

Correct. And if the Japanese do want them they will buy them.

Time to let 127000000 Japanese make their own minds up.

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 I actually am a little with Trump on him forcing Japan to open the markets, I have to say. This is the only way they are going to drop some of their BS protectionist rackets.

More gun policy after Commodore Perry in 1852 ?

Opening the markets for which US products? :)

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If you want to sell your cars, you need to make the effort. 

I have never seen a TV commercial for an American car in Japan.

Now that's a waste of efforts ! :)

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Trump is looking out for American workers and that is what he promised to do!

If I were an American worker I would be extremely pleased!

When a US worker would be educated and skilled he/she wouldn't be so pleased :)

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More gun policy after Commodore Perry in 1852 ?

That particular script is 166 years out of date.

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FizzBitToday  07:50 am JST

I would love to see some cheaper home remodeling materials for example marble tiles, counter tops, insulation, wood flooring, cabinets, etc. it's just sad more Japanese are not into DIY projects.

I agree totally. Japanese people could have so much more interesting spaces to live in if only it were easy to get the equipment, skills, and time to invest in them. But instead everything is concrete walls with textured plastic wallpaper and faux-trendy drecorations tacked on.

Unfortunately the problem can't be solved by complaining about free trade, because the issue is not that such things can't be sold in Japan, but rather that because they're heavy the cost of importing them is huge so no overseas seller wants to do it, and because they aren't designed for Japanese building standards, no local company will import them.

That's the real problem with Japan. It's not that trade isn't free here, it's that anything that isn't already sold in Japan is hard to get because it's just different and inconvenient enough that no one will make the effort.

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How will this impact the imports of American beef ? Also I wonder if we will see more American Rice appearing ?

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The EU has that but there are too many rules within the block to call it free trade.

Based on what knowledge?

Based on the fact that there are quotas on various products where you cannot export more than a certain amount of something.

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https://ageconsearch.umn.edu/bitstream/31327/1/29010070.pdf

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more simply put- your goods fall into 2 catagories

those under Harmonised rules and those under Non Harmonised rules

Harmonised rules

If your products comply with harmonised rules, they can be circulated freely within the EU. This means no restrictions may be put in place; such as limiting quantities of sales. Harmonised EU rules are based on a set of conditions, aimed to protect consumers, public health, and the environment.

Non-harmonised rules

If your products are not subject to harmonised EU rules, they may be subject to national rules; if this is the case you will still be able to benefit from the free movement of goods on the basis of the principle of mutual recognition (the right to export and import goods freely within the EU).

https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/sell-abroad/import-export/index_en.htm

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Amazing comments about free trade from those that know little about free trade that is not free trade because of the many hidden trade barriers.

I personally have experienced hidden trade barriers with imported processed food from America that drives up the cost of U. S. products.

The U. S. should accept only, a one on one, bilateral trade agreement with Japan.

TPP countries, each have their own agendas. American trade should not be sacrificed to support their causes.

President Trump is correct, no TPP. Only a bilateral trade agreement with Japan.

Japan has bilateral trade agreements with other countries and so it should be with the U. S.

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The EU has that but there are too many rules within the block to call it free trade.

Based on what knowledge?

Based on the fact that there are quotas on various products where you cannot export more than a certain amount of something.

http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Intra-EU_trade_ingoods-_recent_trends

Read the context.

As a Brexiteer you're probably anticipating on the future situation between the EU and the UK :)

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