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Abe asks Moon to visit Japan before inter-Korean summit

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Abe, ‘ Fly me to the Moon. Immediately.’

-5 ( +3 / -8 )

What is South Korea's position on the North Korean abductions? Since the Korean War ended, some 3800 South Koreans were abducted out of which 480 are believed to be still held in North Korea.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Lol someone's scrambling. And shouldn't it be the other way around anyway? Who needs who here? Illegal school dealings? Not in Japan. Only one party rules here.

-9 ( +6 / -15 )

Seriously? Doesnt usually the person who needs or wants something do the legwork ?

-6 ( +7 / -13 )

Is he Summoning? Abe has been sidelined, his insistence on the abductees when there are far bigger fish to fry has backfired internationally. Domestically might be a winner, for now.

-8 ( +6 / -14 )

Abe goes to the United States to see the president, but ask the president of South Korea to come see him.

That's saying a lot about who he respects.

-3 ( +9 / -12 )

Don't do it, Moon. If there is any chance to reunify North and South Korea, then let them come together. For decades, America and Japan have reveled in the fact that Korea is divided.

Just like Americans kneeling during the National Anthem, Kim Jong Un has found the one thing that Japan and America fear the most, a United Korea.

-5 ( +10 / -15 )

People just playing politics games, but it does certainly look like a summons rather than reaching out and working with South Korea, which I still strongly believe is critically important to retain a power balance in the region as things are looking to change fairly rapidly.

Japan and South Korea have far more in common lifestyle, economics and similar ideas about freedom and rights, than either do with China for example.

Come on Abe, its only 3 Hrs away and you have your own plane...

-3 ( +8 / -11 )

Abe is acting like a female at a club who wants all the guys to give her their undivided attention.

-6 ( +7 / -13 )

Redtail, but how would re-unification work given the current situation?

I'm not saying it shouldn't happen in time but there are significant issues.

South Koreans don't want to live under an oppressive dictator, we have seen free democratic South Koreans fill the streets when they aren't happy with their government, I can't seem them accepting the kind of control the North would want or giving it up.

South Korea would also somehow have to absorb the financial and economic burden of the North Korean citizenry.

China likely would only "allow" it to happen if all US forces left Korea as they don't want an American Ally on its boarder. I assume thats what the recent rushed China North Korea meeting was about as much as talking about collective defense.

Would the "Kims" be given Political asylum in China or Russia?

You are right it suits the US and Japan to some degree, but it also suits China and Russia too.

1 ( +5 / -4 )

America is not the one happy about two separate Korea's, it is the Chinese and the Russians due to border concerns.

Abe should leave Mr. Moon alone. He has other major issues rather than 17 possible but not proven abductees.

-1 ( +5 / -6 )

Haruka, I have to agree in part, if the whole reason is to talk about the abductees, which if is accurate is terribly sad for the families but in the grand scheme of things fairly minor given changes in the region and the issues in Japan.

While perhaps suggesting any Japanese citizen that wants to return to Japan would be allowed to do so might be OK as a minor point, I would hope that the major part of any meeting would be to assure South Korea that Japan will do everything it can to assist South Korea remain a free and democratic society and to make clear its desire to work together economically and politically.

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

Äbe, "Ooo don't forget me"

Abe & Japan inc = Irrelevant

Well played Kim Jong un !

-6 ( +7 / -13 )

Don't do it, Moon. If there is any chance to reunify North and South Korea, then let them come together. For decades, America and Japan have reveled in the fact that Korea is divided.

Just like Americans kneeling during the National Anthem, Kim Jong Un has found the one thing that Japan and America fear the most, a United Korea.

What threat would a democratic united Korea present to Japan? Despite the bitter history, Korea is not going to attack Japan. All it represents is a great opportunity for Japan Inc.

Unless....North Korea is allowed to retain their nukes and somehow under unification, Korea becomes nuclear. I doubt China is going to be pleased about that. They might feel confident with Moon, they might even think he is anti-U.S, but Korea would be a democracy and it would be extremely easy to see an anti-Chinese Korean P.M come to power. Anything that encourages a nuclear Japan isnt exactly a great thing for China either.

Provided a unified Korea is democratic and nuclear free, its a boon for both Japan and America.

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Is he Summoning?

Diplomacy protocol says that the visit is to take turn or that new President or Prime Minister is the one who visit first.  Abe has visited SK many times but neither Moon nor previous SK President Park visited Japan.  It is very impolite of SK.

-3 ( +10 / -13 )

I agree completely with Cricky and Binatro. If Abe wants to have his agenda being discussed, by summoning Moon to come to Japan is a great insult for Moon. I would be very surprised if Moon agrees to the request.

-6 ( +4 / -10 )

If and when Abe is ready to talk about the 5.5 million Korean civilians abducted for forced labor by Japan maybe this would be possible.

-7 ( +6 / -13 )

Is he Summoning?

Diplomacy protocol says that the visit is to take turn or that new President or Prime Minister is the one who visit first. Abe has visited SK many times but neither Moon nor previous SK President Park visited Japan. It is very impolite of SK.

Except Abe visited Trump first and even before Teump took office. There’s nothing wrong with acknowledging Abe respects one more than the other.

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Why is it so important for Moon to visit Japan? Koreans might feel that there are more important things to do than talk to Japan about the same old things. This is desperate and obvious.

-6 ( +7 / -13 )

"Abe wants to get Moon to raise with Kim the issue of North Korea's abductions of Japanese nationals in the 1970s and 1980s."

Moon needs to reject Abe and his increased third-party "isolation tour". He wants to derail nuclear talks by putting this bilateral issue first, not because he cares about the issue or the people, but because he needs to once again vow it when he is mired in scandal. He should be ashamed, but he knows none. Does he want Moon to come to talk about trade? To talk about grassroots exchange and increasing dialogue between the nations? Nope -- he wants to dictate what SK should do in talks to try and improve relations on the peninsula.

-3 ( +10 / -13 )

Welcome him. Moon is a lot better than his predecessor.

-9 ( +2 / -11 )

South Koreans don't want to live under an oppressive dictator.

South Korea would also somehow have to absorb the financial and economic burden of the North Korean citizenry. 

China likely would only "allow" it to happen if all US forces left Korea as they don't want an American Ally on its boarder.

I can’t see SK being under Kim. It would require major restructuring of the two governments.

Denuclearization would be of less interest for SK with reunification, but it doesn’t take direct US involvement for China and South Korean relations to sour.

Just last year when Park set up the THAAD system on land owned and swapped by Lotte, Chinese government-affiliated media called for a nationwide boycott of Lotte, which has extensive investments in China.

There has to be a reason nearly a million Chinese soldiers crossed the Yalu River in 1950 to fight against U.S. forces.

With THAAD, China views it as a US project of building an Asian version NATO, important for the U.S. to build an anti-missile system in the western Pacific.

Russia China North Korea vs US South Korea Japan. Balance of power equals peace

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No, thanks!

-10 ( +1 / -11 )

Civitas Sine Suffragio

You have to study the Korean history. Do you think Korea could modernize the country by themselves?

-5 ( +8 / -13 )

You have to study the Korean history. Do you think Korea could modernize the country by themselves?

Many world countries have "modernized" without the colonization of them by another country such as Japan or Britain.

We will never know if Korea would have modernized if it had not been a Japanese colony, and one where Japan took more out than it put it. But most likely, if it had not been a colony then today there would not be two opposing Koreas.

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zichi

In the strict sense, what Japan did was not colonization. Japan had an intention to protect other Asian countries from exploitation by western countries. Remember what Britain and other European countries did in Asia. Their purpose was nothing but plunder.

-6 ( +8 / -14 )

Was Korea a colony of Japan?

Yes it was. I quote.

"Japanese colonial rule (1910-1945) was a deeply ambivalent experience for Koreans. On the one hand, Japanese colonialism was often quite harsh. For the first ten years Japan ruled directly through the military, and any Korean dissent was ruthlessly crushed."

Did Japan control every aspect of life in Korea?

Yes it did.

Because of the British Empire Japan colonized Korea to prevent Britain doing the same.

I don't think Britain would have wanted to colonize Korea since it was lacking in natural resources. But whatever the British Empire and other empires did, does not provide a cover story for Japan colonizing Korea.

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zichi

In the strict sense, what Japan did was not colonization. Japan had an intention to protect other Asian countries from exploitation by western countries. Remember what Britain and other European countries did in Asia. Their purpose was nothing but plunder.

Gee, could this by why China and both Koreas are deliberately excluding Japan? One of these days y’all are going to figure out that your obsession with “correct history” ain’t serving the national interest too well...kinda makes those places you “liberated” not trust you all that much. Got a big secret for ya, Schop: China and the Koreas lived that history, too! And let’s just say they remember it a bit differently than you do...

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@NZ. Actually Abe always has 2 jumbo jets when he visits the 50 odd countries recently.

3 ( +3 / -0 )

Did Japan get any richer by "colonizing" Korea? No. We did not colonize Korea. We annexed the country and they became Japanese citizens and we invested quite a lot. Japan dreamed to build united Asia under the leadership of Japan to protect Asia from invasion and colonization by western countries including Russia. Japan feeling crisis coming closer rushed to modernize the country when China was almost becoming colony of Britain which used opium to plunder China.

-5 ( +5 / -10 )

Back on topic please.

@NZ. Actually Abe always has 2 jumbo jets when he visits the 50 odd countries recently.

As does every world leader who owns a presidential aircraft.

The second jet is a backup in case the first requires repairs or maintenance, and it also carries the staff and aides.

Every US president from Kennedy to Obama has had 4 jets, until Trump reduced the fleet to 2 Air Force Ones.

-2 ( +1 / -3 )

Back on topic please.

Sometimes, I make fun of Abe by attacking his blunders. I know Abe wouldn't mind because he has thick skin, otherwise I wouldn't joke him if he is a sensitive person. However, I can't make fun of him of abduction issue because it is a serious problem. Abe could resolve the problem 16 years ago in 2002 by just offering a little bit more money. In this regard, Japanese govt owes Japanese people a big apolozy for the dragged suffering and pain.

-6 ( +2 / -8 )

Korea is interested in unification as the ultimate goal, and denuclearization as the immediate goal. Japan isn't interested in either except how they might better self-serve Japan, and they are primarily interested in an issue that affects NO ONE but Japan -- the abduction issue. That should not even be on the list of things to talk about, but Abe wants it at the top. He's demanded the US talk about it when they meet Kim. Now he's asking Moon to come so that he can bring it up when HE talks to Kim.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

Abe should be careful because it is not proper if the nuclear talk is disrupted. The best way to resolve abduction issue is to talk to Nk directly with sincerity and financial assistance to find out the fact. Things can be done in parallel.

-7 ( +1 / -8 )

Agree with smithihjapan in identifying Korean goals.

-4 ( +2 / -6 )

Abe should trust neighbors that they will help Japan in finding solutions. However, by pushing too hard will not generate the desired result. Abe already made too many mistakes. There is no room for mistake this time. It is better to let others to handle the situation while Abe focuses on his own scandal.

-6 ( +1 / -7 )

A penetrating photograph at any rate. If looks could kill. They hate each other. Mt sympathies are with Moon.

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

Abe goes to USA to get a pat on the head to get its master's approval.

In a sense, Abe mistakenly believes Japan's relationship with South Korea is like USA's to Japan.

Abe and Japan really need a gigantic douse of reality.

-1 ( +3 / -4 )

@OssanJapan

What is South Korea's position on the North Korean abductions? 

None of Korea's problem. Trump won't raise this issue with Kim during his summit either, so Abe will have to raise it himself during his summit with Kim.

@Redtail Swift

Don't do it, Moon.

Moon doesn't have time for Abe at the moment.

@Schopenhauer

Do you think Korea could modernize the country by themselves?

Absolutely.

Japan had an intention to protect other Asian countries from exploitation by western countries.

Nobody outside of Japan is buying this "Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere" thing.

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

Abe is really displaying the limits of his base of political support in Japan. Remember, until 2002 this guy was just another mediocre hereditary LDP backbencher like so many others in that party. Abe's exploitation of the emotional abductee issue, which burst into the open when Kim Jong Il admitted in September 2002 that such kidnappings of Japanese had taken place, catapulted him into the national spotlight and made Abe into an even internationally known figure. So Abe can't let the abductee issue go, because it's what made him prime minister the first time around in 2006. This is as good a reason as any for arguing why Abe should no longer serve as prime minister of Japan.

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

Interesting that the last seven comments all got five or six down votes but none of the down voters appear to be capable of a reply. Doesn't say much about the intellect of the average Abe supporter.

-2 ( +2 / -4 )

to much drama... give the guy a call and see...much ado about nothing

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