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Abe mum on reports he nominated Trump for Nobel Peace Prize

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It's weird behavior.

If you did it...Own it.

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Mr Abe shows his lack of leadership when he recommends Trump for a peace prize. Abe credibility has sunken even further with this recommendation for Trump, if it is true. He falls out of the ranks of "statesperson" if he ever was there. Japan needs a real leader at this time to find their real place in Asian affairs. Japan must learn to come in from being a bland country and take some stances in the world.

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"I highly praise President Trump's leadership," Abe said.

Oh, yes, praise the (or is it your?) leader!

Does Abe really know what leadership means? Or his he talking about their golf meetings?

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Don't knock Abe for any praise for Trump - it's called diplomacy. But as for the White House requesting a nomination? Outrageous.

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"I highly praise President Trump's leadership," Abe said.

Ugh.

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"I never said I didn't" nominate him, Abe said in a response to a follow up question by Yuichiro Tamaki, a lawmaker for the opposition Democratic Party for the People.

So yes you did or no you didn’t?

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You have to remember. These nominations are typically private. Trump went and mentioned him on the national/international circuit.

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There is no need for PM Abe to admit or deny anything. This is just Opposition parties trying to cause trouble. They are so small they sound like a mosquito in the Diet. PM Abe has excellent relations with Trump. And Trump HAS been a great President. The USA and Japan are the worlds closest allies. What do people want PM Abe to say?

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What do people want PM Abe to say?

For the sake of the people of Japan and the nation, I'm resigning over numerous scandals and my dubious support for the Trumpist regime. Thank you all, it's been emotional.

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Whether Abe did or not should have never been up for question. Trump threw him under the bus.

Its like you are given an anonymous survey at work but your boss finds out the answer and who said what then suddenly begins to question you about it.

Recommendations were never supposed to be known.

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If there's real democracy in japan,then this should be the beginning of the end for probably the most crime laden PM in recent history.

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Why does every keep crediting Trump with the North Korean missle crises.

The last time I checked, not a single thing changed after the summit. There have been no further talks as well.

Why hasn’t the real hero been credited with bringing North Korea to the table. NK didn’t care when all those sanctions hit because they have always received 90% of their support from China. In a rare move, when China decided to sanction North Korea and withhold their aide that is when North Korea changed. But the world doesn’t want to credit China with such a move because it would be seen as promoting communism and not democracy.

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If you did it...Own it.

If Abe owns it, it's political suicide with his base of right-wing hawks that want the NK abduction issue solved and see NK as the enemy not future trade partner.

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Ganbare Japan!Today  05:04 pm JST

There is no need for PM Abe to admit or deny anything. 

Of course not, he can just let everyone go on thinking he's a craven stooge of a deeply corrupt foreign regime. But if Abe did actually nominate Trump for the award because the US government asked him to, you don't see that as a problem at all?

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What do people want PM Abe to say?

I would like him to say, 'I'm resigning and taking Taro-kun with me.'

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It's my recollection that South Korean President Moon recomended Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize. Maybe Trump confused the two and now Abe doesn't want to be embarrassed to admit he didn't nominate Trump.

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Of course not, he can just let everyone go on thinking he's a craven stooge of a deeply corrupt foreign regime. But if Abe did actually nominate Trump for the award because the US government asked him to, you don't see that as a problem at all?

Why ? Even SK president Moon does not hesitate to say in public that Trump is well qualified for the prize.

The diff is which one US did ask.

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There is no need for PM Abe to admit or deny anything. This is just Opposition parties trying to cause trouble. They are so small they sound like a mosquito in the Diet. PM Abe has excellent relations with Trump. And Trump HAS been a great President. The USA and Japan are the worlds closest allies. What do people want PM Abe to say?

You’re missing the point. Japan is a country and should not be a minion of Donald Trump.

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Abe can't say anything right now because his head is so far up. When in the coming months Trump's fortunes go into reverse, fair-weather friend Abe will be bending over for Pence.

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So funny seeing a little man with pants on fire. Want to see class this is the opposite.

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It is no surprise that abe has to side with Trump. This is because no other Asian countries will do it. Even in Europe, Germany is complaniing abt trump.

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You have to wait 50 years before revealing you nominated Trump according to Nobel Committee rules? You won't be around in 50 years. And Trump just outed you!

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And S. Korean President Moon actually said Trump should get a Nobel Prize for meeting Kim and easing the Korean tensions. Yet, the US asked Abe. What is Moon supposed to think about that?

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Japan is also an interesting country like the U.S. in that citizens sometimes can elect and support so much quixotic leaders who are at least better than dictators. The leaders are sometimes even entertaining to dance together.

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@smartacus

It's my recollection that South Korean President Moon recomended Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize. Maybe Trump confused the two and now Abe doesn't want to be embarrassed to admit he didn't nominate Trump.

No. Highly unlikely. Trump mentioned "the most beautiful copy of a letter".

And, the media report as follows:

South Korean President Moon Jae-in also suggested at the time that the US leader would be a worthy recipient. But a presidential spokesperson said Monday that Moon had not nominated him, nor had any plan to personally nominate Trump in the future.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/18/asia/trump-abe-nobel-prize-intl/

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showchinmonoToday 05:46 pm JST

Of course not, he can just let everyone go on thinking he's a craven stooge of a deeply corrupt foreign regime. But if Abe did actually nominate Trump for the award because the US government asked him to, you don't see that as a problem at all?

Why ? Even SK president Moon does not hesitate to say in public that Trump is well qualified for the prize.

The diff is which one US did ask.

Why what? I'm really not sure what you want to say here but there's absolutely no indication as yet that SK President Moon did or said any such thing at the US's behest. That's what makes him look like less of a grovelling stooge than Abe.

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There is no need for PM Abe to admit or deny anything. This is just Opposition parties trying to cause trouble. They are so small they sound like a mosquito in the Diet. PM Abe has excellent relations with Trump. And Trump HAS been a great President. The USA and Japan are the worlds closest allies. What do people want PM Abe to say?

110% Agreed!

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Nominees and nominators are not allowed to discuss the process for 50 years. Abe is just following protocol.

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I was Abe's fan. I even admired him, but with all that is happening, not only about Korea, but the disputed territories with Russia, the Okinawa never end humiliation and this humble about Donald "Duck" Trump I now think that I was as wrong as he is now.

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Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe declined Monday to say if he had nominated U.S. President Donald Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize, though he also emphasized he did not deny doing so

Omg. This line alone is just hilarious, and also classically Abe/Japanese government.

Trying to be tough via the benefit of the doubt, while trying to make sure not to upset Donny in case he's watching.

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Naruhodo! So THAT'S why Trump staged a meeting with Kim Jong Un. As usual, it is all about his own self.

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Hahaha!! Trump says "jump", Abe bends over before asking "how high?" Honestly, this is disgusting even for Abe. And I love how right wingers who hate foreigners and foreign influence in Japan adore Abe as he let's Trump just make stuff up and demand Abe go with it. What a coward.

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sakurasukiFeb. 18 04:28 pm JST"I never said I didn't" nominate him, Abe said in a response to a follow up question by Yuichiro Tamaki, a lawmaker for the opposition Democratic Party for the People.

So yes you did or no you didn’t?

Maybe Abe went to the Trumpster School of Truth-Telling.

CrazyJoeFeb. 18 04:17 pm JSTMr Abe shows his lack of leadership when he recommends Trump for a peace prize. Abe credibility has sunken even further with this recommendation for Trump, if it is true. He falls out of the ranks of "statesperson" if he ever was there. Japan needs a real leader at this time to find their real place in Asian affairs. Japan must learn to come in from being a bland country and take some stances in the world.

I think it's truly sad that anybody would kowtow to this arrogant little Caligula. I don't know much about Japanese politics but I'll just say if Abe really recommended this, if he truly submitted himself to this gross human rights violator, international criminal and arrogant tin god - then Abe is unworthy to govern Japan himself and should resign in disgrace. Japan deserves better than a puppet like that, America deserves better than Putin's racist scumbag puppet and planet Earth deserves better altogether.

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quercetum

Japan is a country and should not be a minion of Donald Trump.

Exactly. Just because Japan and the US are allies doesn't mean Japan should kiss Trump's fanny.

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Simon FostonFeb. 18 05:39 pm JSTGanbare Japan!Today  05:04 pm JST

There is no need for PM Abe to admit or deny anything. 

Of course not, he can just let everyone go on thinking he's a craven stooge of a deeply corrupt foreign regime. But if Abe did actually nominate Trump for the award because the US government asked him to, you don't see that as a problem at all?

Of course it's a problem! Whether Abe is as bad as some of you other posters say he is, I still say this is a problem - a gross lack of character. Just absolutely pathetic to the max.

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What a non-issue. The fault lies with Trump for asking him to do it, not with Abe for being diplomatic about it and not wanting to discuss it.

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Why what? I'm really not sure what you want to say here but there's absolutely no indication as yet that SK President Moon did or said any such thing at the US's behest. That's what makes him look like less of a grovelling stooge than Abe.

Why what what? It's reported already as quoted by SJ just before your 2nd post.

South Korean President Moon Jae-in also suggested at the time that the US leader would be a worthy recipient. But a presidential spokesperson said Monday that Moon had not nominated him, nor had any plan to personally nominate Trump in the future.

And Moon had no plan to nominate him simply because the deadline for nomination is due on 1st of this month already according to

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20190218-00000027-yonh-kr

I don't see any problems for Abe to nominate Trump, even if he actually did not want to but couldn't help doing so.

Insulting Japanese PMs or Japan as a country and the people by calling them *craven stooge, lapdog, kowtowing minion, etc by the posters here didn't just start because of this*. It's disgusting you guys been always only laughing out. You guys must have absolutely no problem for Japan to scrap Article9 and be armed with nukes and confront North Korea by itself, to rescue abductees or to shoot down missiles flying over if don't want to behave like *craven stooge,*

After all, what's the fuss about Nobel peace prize. Even Lee Yong-soo self-appointed comfort woman or SK Moon himself were expecting to be nominated last year.

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He knows what to do i.e his position is above u. But if people don't agree and keep bashing on him, why don't u try to become prime minister or president and prove that u can do better? U'll also end up in same sinkhole with full of hatred words just like yours.

Come on, try! What'ch u waitin' for? Or Keep writing the same stuff?

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As a Japanese I do think it was good that Abe nominated Trump for the Nobel peace prize. Of course Trump doesn't deserve it. But still it was good because looking at Trump from Japan we were worried that Trump might agree with North Korea by only eliminating long range missles, ICBMs targeting mainland US, from North Korea and leave middle range missles targeting Japan from the agreement. If that happenes Japan would be in a big trouble.

Abe's accepting US govt request and nominating Trump is a message to Trump to put middle range missiles and abduction issue too on the table when seeing Kim jon un. Trump openly commented on the nomination, which usually don't happen, is a sign that he will do put those issues on the table.

But if Trump doesn't, Abe may openly retreat the nomination, he would have to in Japanese political landscape.

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jj1067Today 06:01 am JST

Abe's accepting US govt request and nominating Trump is a message to Trump to put middle range missiles and abduction issue too on the table when seeing Kim jon un.

Almost everyone else seems to think it's more a case of Trump saying "jump" and Abe asking how high.

Trump openly commented on the nomination, which usually don't happen, is a sign that he will do put those issues on the table.

It's more a sign of how he can't stop talking about how fantastic he thinks he is.

But if Trump doesn't, Abe may openly retreat the nomination, he would have to in Japanese political landscape.

I don't think Abe would dare.

BackpackingNepalToday 05:33 am JST

He knows what to do i.e his position is above u.

You really think everyone in a senior position to you always knows what they're doing or chooses to do the right thing?

showchinmonoToday 05:08 am JST

Why what? I'm really not sure what you want to say here but there's absolutely no indication as yet that SK President Moon did or said any such thing at the US's behest. That's what makes him look like less of a grovelling stooge than Abe.

Why what what? It's reported already as quoted by SJ just before your 2nd post.

I still have no idea what you're getting at. That we shouldn't criticise Abe when Moon would have done exactly the same thing? I.e. caved to American pressure and done what Trump wanted?

Insulting Japanese PMs or Japan as a country and the people by calling them *craven stooge, lapdog, kowtowing minion, etc by the posters here didn't just start because of this**.*

I think it's only the PM that's being insulted.

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@Simon Foston

"Almost everyone else seems to think it's more a case of Trump saying "jump" and Abe asking how high."

Of course. Many JT posters think that way we Japanese know that.

On the other hand DPRK middle range nuke missiles and abduction issue is not joke to us. We expect PM to use every measure, that is including giving Trump what he wants as long as it doesn't damage Japan, to work on DPRK issues. PM is doint a real job. JT posters laughing at it. I don't care.

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Abe said, adding "he and the entire White House also actively cooperated in resolving the issue."

Who is he ? and which white house ? very confusing.

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We expect PM to use every measure, that is including giving Trump what he wants as long as it doesn't damage Japan, to work on DPRK issues.

Looking like Trump's lapdog certainly doesn't help Japan. Note that I'm not claiming Abe is Trump's lapdog, just that he looks like it from this incident.

PM is doint a real job. JT posters laughing at it. I don't care

You care enough to engage these posters.

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jj1067Today  06:48 am JST

@Simon Foston

"Almost everyone else seems to think it's more a case of Trump saying "jump" and Abe asking how high."

Of course. Many JT posters think that way we Japanese know that.

"We Japanese?" "No joke to us?" "We expect...?" Are you suggesting that you speak for all Japanese people? You expect us to believe that everyone in Japan thinks the same way you do? That absolutely no Japanese people are at all bothered if their head of government turns himself into a national embarrassment?

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I still have no idea what you're getting at. That we shouldn't criticise Abe when Moon would have done exactly the same thing? I.e. caved to American pressure and done what Trump wanted?

As just reported Trump has already been nominated by two Norwegian lawmakers. Moon would have done the same. Abe is not special or you sticking to the point Abe asked how high and jumped? So what is wrong with that?

*Of course not, he can just let everyone go on thinking he's a craven stooge of a deeply corrupt foreign regime. But if Abe did actually nominate Trump for the award because the US government asked him to, you don't see that as a problem at all?*

Just like you pointed out to jj1067, you cannot speak for everyone as goes on thinking he's a craven stooge.

It's reality, realpolitik Japan has been facing. Doing whatever to rescue abductees or to stop N.K's threat

without military force not easy at all particularly along with people's laugh and insults.

I think it's only the PM that's being insulted.

You haven't spent time enough in JT then.

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The missiles have stopped. No one but President Trump could have done that. If you had Honor You would show respect for the Leaders who are making it safer for You and Your Family's

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showchinmonoToday 10:11 am JST

As just reported Trump has already been nominated by two Norwegian lawmakers. Moon would have done the same.

Did Donald Trump ask them to?

Abe is not special or you sticking to the point Abe asked how high and jumped? So what is wrong with that?

Nothing at all. If you don't mind having your prime minister under the thumb of a foreign head of state.

Just like you pointed out to jj1067, you cannot speak for everyone as goes on thinking he's a craven stooge.

True enough. But a consensus does seem to be forming that he is.

" I think it's only the PM that's being insulted."

You haven't spent time enough in JT then.

I was referring to this situation and the comments written about it. Has anyone in this comment thread insulted Japan or the Japanese people?

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What a non-issue. The fault lies with Trump for asking him to do it, not with Abe for being diplomatic about it and not wanting to discuss it.

But just think about it though. Was Abe the only one among the leaders of America's allies that Trump asked to do this for him?

If not, then what does it say about Abe being the only one bowing down to Trump's pressure?

But if so, then what does it say about Abe when Trump only asks him, and him only, to do this kind of ludicrous thing?

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jj1067: "On the other hand DPRK middle range nuke missiles and abduction issue is not joke to us. We expect PM to use every measure, that is including giving Trump what he wants as long as it doesn't damage Japan, to work on DPRK issues. PM is doint a real job. JT posters laughing at it. I don't care."

You don't take those issues seriously at all. If you did, you'd be irate that Abe may have nominated Trump for the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE for saying things are fine with NK. Do you now understand? If Abe does agree with Trump, it means that he agrees with Trump NK poses no threat and is not continuing their weapons program. It means you agree there is no need for Japan to have a military because Trump has brought about peace. It means there can be no more threats about the abductee issue because there is peace and Kim is a "great guy", and more. If you cared even one little bit about these issues, truly, you would not be defending Abe on this. You'd be demanding answers. The people pointing out what a coward Abe is and that Japan needs some backbone care more than you do.

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Think I might get that man I met 2 years ago nominate me as I also like hamburgers and if that's the lowest a Nobel is worth so be it. Hope it's not too heavy, might need to hire someone to wear it for me. If anyone out there is geogeous and have strong neck muscles let me know. I might have a medal you can wear.

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As just reported Trump has already been nominated by two Norwegian lawmakers. Moon would have done the same.

Did Donald Trump ask them to?

Doesn't matter. These 2 did nominate Trump and Moon believed it a good idea. And then what? If Trump actually asked them, these 2 Norwegian lawmakers and Moon are supposed to take it back?

Nothing at all. If you don't mind having your prime minister under the thumb of a foreign head of state.

I do and I think most of Japanese people do too but I wouldn't blame him in a way you and ilks calling him as such for the reasons I have already mentioned.

I was referring to this situation and the comments written about it. Has anyone in this comment thread insulted Japan or the Japanese people?

I was referring to every other topics including this, in particular, about politics, diplomacy of Japan, and hence

*Insulting Japanese PMs or Japan as a country and the people by calling them ***craven stooge, lapdog, kowtowing minion, etc by the posters here didn't just start because of this.****

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You don't take those issues seriously at all. If you did, you'd be irate that Abe may have nominated Trump for the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE for saying things are fine with NK. Do you now understand? If Abe does agree with Trump, it means that he agrees with Trump NK poses no threat and is not continuing their weapons program. It means you agree there is no need for Japan to have a military because Trump has brought about peace. It means there can be no more threats about the abductee issue because there is peace and Kim is a "great guy", and more. If you cared even one little bit about these issues, truly, you would not be defending Abe on this. You'd be demanding answers. The people pointing out what a coward Abe is and that Japan needs some backbone care more than you do.

"A possible award would of course depend on the talks leading to a credible disarmament deal," he said.

https://japantoday.com/category/politics/no-need-for-shinzo-abe-trump-already-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize

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showchinmonoToday  03:40 pm JST

"As just reported Trump has already been nominated by two Norwegian lawmakers. Moon would have done the same."

"Did Donald Trump ask them to?"

Doesn't matter.

Not to you, obviously.

These 2 did nominate Trump and Moon believed it a good idea. And then what? If Trump actually asked them, these 2 Norwegian lawmakers and Moon are supposed to take it back?

But he didn't ask any of them so it's a moot point. I have little interest in hypothetical arguments with hardly any basis in reality.

"Nothing at all. If you don't mind having your prime minister under the thumb of a foreign head of state."

I do and I think most of Japanese people do too but I wouldn't blame him in a way you and ilks calling him as such for the reasons I have already mentioned.

That kind of loses cohesion a bit after "blame him in a way."

"I was referring to this situation and the comments written about it. Has anyone in this comment thread insulted Japan or the Japanese people?"

I was referring to every other topics including this, in particular, about politics, diplomacy of Japan, and hence

Whatever anyone has said about Japan and Japanese people in other comment threads is irrelevant.

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Simon FostonToday  07:29 pm JST

showchinmonoToday 03:40 pm JST

"As just reported Trump has already been nominated by two Norwegian lawmakers. Moon would have done the same."

"Did Donald Trump ask them to?"

Doesn't matter.

Not to you, obviously.

These 2 did nominate Trump and Moon believed it a good idea. And then what? If Trump actually asked them, these 2 Norwegian lawmakers and Moon are supposed to take it back?

You're arguing hypothetically that Abe nominated Trump only because it's said that US government had sounded Abe out over the Nobel Peace Prize by neglecting the possibility that he could be about to do so just like Moon or 2 others.

But he didn't ask any of them so it's a moot point. I have little interest in hypothetical arguments with hardly any basis in reality.

You cannot evade this question. If Trump asked those 3 others, should they have taken back their original intent?

That kind of loses cohesion a bit after "blame him in a way."

It doesn't at all why is that?

Whatever anyone has said about Japan and Japanese people in other comment threads is irrelevant.

Each posters show their colors, which you cannot ignore even if you want to. If that is a rule to comment at JT, leave mods to do their jobs. I don't see any problems to make comments crossing over similar topics.

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Well, after pulling out of numerous treaties designed to enhance peace, it's clear Donnie the Dimwit isn't eligible for a Nobel....but cheer up Donnie, here a a few others you definitely quality for...

Conservative Christian Family Council Award for marriage faithfulness - presented by Stormy Daniels...

MENSA Society Award for high IQ - presented by Ann Coulter...

Oscar for Best Actor in the Puppet category - presented by Vladimir Putin....

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showchinmonoToday  08:48 pm JST

You cannot evade this question.

I can do whatever I like. However...

If Trump asked those 3 others, should they have taken back their original intent?*

Anyone asked to nominate Donald Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize should have refused. The Norwegian politicians presumably were not so asked, if they had been they should have refused. Shinzo Abe was allegedly asked. He should have refused. There's nothing hypothetical about it - Abe either did as he was told or he didn't.

That kind of loses cohesion a bit after "blame him in a way."

It doesn't at all why is that?*

Two separate clauses in the same sentence with nothing to link them.

I don't see any problems to make comments crossing over similar topics.

I'm sure you don't, seeing as it's you who's making the comments.

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Anyone asked to nominate Donald Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize should have refused. The Norwegian politicians presumably were not so asked, if they had been they should have refused. Shinzo Abe was allegedly asked. He should have refused. There's nothing hypothetical about it - Abe either did as he was told or he didn't.

Be exact. Is it because it's Trump who asked or Is it prohibited to nominate anyone who asks to do so by Nobel foundation or Norwegian Nobel Committee?

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showchinmonoFeb. 19 11:15 pm JST

Be exact.

I don't take instructions from other commenters.

Is it because it's Trump who asked or Is it prohibited to nominate anyone who asks to do so by Nobel foundation or Norwegian Nobel Committee?

Work that out for yourself.

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Is it because it's Trump who asked or Is it prohibited to nominate anyone who asks to do so by Nobel foundation or Norwegian Nobel Committee?

Work that out for yourself.

Fine I have already done. As far as I looked around, there isn't such rule that a nominee cannot ask others to nominate. There is no reason that they should have refused if asked by Trump unless your problem lies with Trump himself. Considering the fact Norwegian Nobel Committee send letter requesting nomination for the prize to each country every year, It's nothing but your assertion based on an arbitrary hypothesis that Abe either did as he was told or he didn't. Abe could be about to nominate him without Trump's request just like 3 others(Moon was positive but has no plan as the deadline is due). Media only reported US government sound him out over the prize.

So Abe is not special at all. just nominated Trump with or without his own request and left judgement to the committee.

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It doesn't matter what the rules in any given situation are. Asking someone else to nominate you for an award is a bit pathetic. If I ever did such a thing I would expect the other person to refuse and have a somewhat lower opinion of me afterwards, whether I was "allowed" to ask them or not. The fact that Abe allegedly did not refuse is a poor reflection on his character and if I were Japanese the only view I could not view him as a national embarrassment is if I were being paid not to.

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Simon FostonFeb. 20  04:54 pm JST

It doesn't matter what the rules in any given situation are. Asking someone else to nominate you for an award is a bit pathetic. If I ever did such a thing I would expect the other person to refuse and have a somewhat lower opinion of me afterwards, whether I was "allowed" to ask them or not. The fact that Abe allegedly did not refuse is a poor reflection on his character and if I were Japanese the only view I could not view him as a national embarrassment is if I were being paid not to.

 

 

The rule does not prohibit it and you are not PM of Japan dealing with all the mess.

 

If I ever did such a thing I would expect the other person to refuse and have a somewhat lower opinion of me afterwards, whether I was "allowed" to ask them or not.

 

So you ask someone close to you to do so but expect him/her to refuse it. Then don’t ask in the 1st place. Besides, Which one are you talking about? it’s not Abe who asked but Trump. If it is Trump that is your problem, don’t denounce Abe.

 

Like I said a few times, nominating a person like Trump for the prize is not something special only Abe could do, as shown by the fact of 3 others.

 

(A) Abe could be thinking to nominate Trump even before Trump himself or someone under him sounded Abe out over the prize. Why not? Obama was nominated only 12 days after he had become POTUS and awarded the prize just by one speech?

(B) Or, Abe could find he is well qualified as others did when or because Trump or someone under him hinted the prize.

(C) The only case you presumably despise Abe would be that he could not refuse and unwillingly nominated him.

 

Those are anybody’s guess and you’re arguing hypothetically.

 

As for me,  I added an assumption,  If I were in Abe’s position, I would take whatever possible measure to rescue abductees and stop NK threat. The measure cannot include paying up ransom money under current circumstances with international coordination, not to mention to use direct employment of military force.

Some People blame him for not trying to have direct dialogue with Kim but they don't know that Kim's been rejecting it and do not even pick up the direct phone ringing.

So I would not blame him in THE way you and your ilks did even if Abe nominated him as in (C)

You throw it over me and told me to work it out. I had already done before you told me to do so and not because you told me to do so.

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showchinmonoToday 04:55 am JST

The rule does not prohibit it...

That doesn't make it right. Asking someone to nominate you for an award and them going along with your request defeats the whole point of even having a nomination system.

If it is Trump that is your problem, don’t denounce Abe.

My problem is with both of them. Trump asked. Abe appears to have agreed like a craven, sycophantic weasel.

Like I said a few times, nominating a person like Trump for the prize is not something special only Abe could do, as shown by the fact of 3 others.

Those 3 others said and did what they wanted, not what the US government asked. Anyway. As you're clearly going to defend Abe no matter what he does there is very little point in discussing anything else with you.

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That doesn't make it right. Asking someone to nominate you for an award and them going along with your request defeats the whole point of even having a nomination system.

If you believe so, you can call up the committee or Norwegian Embassy and find it out yourself.

All I found is A nomination for yourself will not be taken into consideration by the committee as candidacy criteria.

My problem is with both of them. Trump asked. Abe appears to have agreed like a craven, sycophantic weasel.

I woudn't repeat what I said for 3 times.

Those 3 others said and did what they wanted, not what the US government asked. Anyway. As you're clearly going to defend Abe no matter what he does there is very little point in discussing anything else with you.

Fine.

Believe or not, I am not as strong Abe supporter as you might think I am.

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