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Casino bill delayed again; resort opening could miss Olympics

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Good, and I hope that all the Police and all the government departments that will have to handle all proven social problems that casinos cause to society are hoping they never happen - associated crime, child abuse, suicides and company fraud associated with Gambling Addictions. Plus the black money mafia systems that are always involved with casinos and we must not forget the reduction in consumer spending for other businesses, as much of money will be allocated to lose to the casinos. They are an unnecessary parasite that Japan's society does not need. The only reason the government wants them is the huge tax revenue gained that will be gained from them, and the short term employment opportunities.

The only players that win from casinos are the owners and the government - It's been proven that Society has always been the losers!

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Personally I like casino gambling, but I also like Japan having fewer of the social ills that come with casinos.

There's already enough bad elements and gambling addicts from the currently legal modes of gambling in Japan. We don't need any more.

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It's been proven that Society has always been the losers!

Not entirely true. Atlantic City has generated enough wealth that entire areas of the city are being rebuilt due to the money generated by the strip. Furthermore, more goods and services are offered in the city because of it, as well.

The real issue is getting these casinos into the second cities (and Okinawa), and not the major cities of Japan (like Osaka, Tokyo, and Kyoto). Regional revitalization would benefit from an influx of jobs in the country, rather than pressuring more people to work in the cities.

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So the plan is for the Japanese Govt. to recoup its losses from the 2020 Tokyo Olympics from the Casinos.

While the J-Govt. is in the legalizing vices mood, why not legalize, regulate and tax marijuana and prostitution? There would be a lot of tax revenue generated and they make you feel so much better than losing your money at gambling.

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Not entirely true. Atlantic City has generated enough wealth that entire areas of the city are being rebuilt due to the money generated by the strip. Furthermore, more goods and services are offered in the city because of it, as well.

Geez if Atlantic City has done so well why is it dying? Japan doesnt need one hit wonders, it needs something more stable and sustainable and NOT an industry that is a social threat.

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@Yubaru: Are you writing Atlantic City now or before Caesars Palace created High rise? MG wrote about today's Atlantic City.

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Pandabelle: "There's already enough bad elements and gambling addicts from the currently legal modes of gambling in Japan."

There is no legal gambling in Japan. Horse racing, boat racing, pachinko, slots -- all are technically illegal. But that's Japan, for you. Just thought I'd point that out for you. Agree with not wanting more social ills than Japan already has with the gambling the government turns a blind-eye on, though.

Anyway, they are struggling, and concerned, and working their butts off to make it so that Japan will have more places to make them a profit and screw over society. If ONLY they would put even a quarter of as much effort into the promises they make that would actually HELP people! imagine if they worried as much about the deadlines, LONG passed!, they haven't met in which they promised to help people still in temporary housing in the north? you know, those same ones the main Olympic Dome (behind schedule and which they are doing the best to hurry up!) and Olympics were said would help them?

Ah, the priorities!

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Smith

There is no legal gambling in Japan. Horse racing, boat racing, pachinko, slots -- all are technically illegal.

Completely incorrect. Keiba, Kyotei, Keirin, and auto race are completely legal to bet on, they are not "technically" illegal or actually illegal. Takarakuji is also legal gambling. Pachinko and pachislot are different beasts entirely, quasi-legal gambling because how the bets are paid off.

But the racing gambling I mentioned is absolutely legal and regulated.

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Pandabelle: "Pachinko and pachislot are different beasts entirely, quasi-legal gambling because how the bets are paid off."

They're not "quasi-gambling", they're gambling! That's just part of the 'give it a cute name and paint the pig with lipstick' euphemism that is encouraged in Japan. What... it's not 'gambling' because the people get toys instead of cash which they 'donate' to the shady window boxes located on part of the pachinko/slot parlors? PLEASE! It is gambling, but the government says, "It is officially not considered gambling because Japanese laws regard pachinko as an exception to the criminal code on gambling for historical, monetary, and cultural reasons" -- get it? They just suddenly decided that it was an exception to the rule, which means the rules make no sense in the first place. "Gambling is illegal... oh, except this, oh, and that... oh, and the lottery pay-outs can only be 50% of sales and the government gets the rest, so we'll allow that... ummm.... "

How is it a law when you can choose not to obey it? You're not doing the nation justice, really. Neither are the people that abuse the system.

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smith

They're not "quasi-gambling", they're gambling!

When did I say they were not? quasi-LEGAL gambling, the LEGAL is the quasi part, not the gambling.

And what about kyotei, takarakuji, keiba, keirin, and auto race? Could you kindly admit you were wrong on those issues?

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@PandabelleOCT. 24, 2014 - 05:37PM JST smith They're not "quasi-gambling", they're gambling! When did I say they were not? quasi-LEGAL gambling, the LEGAL is the quasi part, not the gambling. And what about kyotei, takarakuji, keiba, keirin, and auto race? Could you kindly admit you were wrong on those issues?

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There is no legal gambling in Japan.

Smithinjapan.

Pandabelle is absolutely correct. You are dead wrong.

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Keirin - bicycle rasing. Operated by local government such as city, prefecture, etc. Then there are keiba, keitei, Toto (J League succor pools. One not clear is Mahjong Japanese style. Wealthy peole play freely and never been arrested. Keirin, 75 % back to winners of betting others, payment of expe]se. Rest is income of local govt who own right of keirin-jo. That is why a city that has Keiirin-jo is wealthy even it pays keirin-jo rent money to owner of property. Tomikujos are sold by temples or shrines. No arrest so it must be legal. Ilegal gambling? Yakuzas have their own bakuchi-ba that wealthy people use.

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I wish this going to delay forever!

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How is it a law when you can choose not to obey it?

You mean like the laws prohibiting price fixing, equal opportunity in the workplace, a minimum 10 days vacation each year (which can never be taken concurrently, and often not taken at all), and organised crime "tolerated"? Few countries are as selective about the enforcement of "laws" than Japan is, almost no law which opposes cultural tradition is enforced.

Gambling is already a huge social ill in Japan, and is the cause of a huge amount of suffering among the people. It has led to countless suicides, bankruptcies, broken families, and homelessness. Yet the government is so desperate for revenue that it will happily sacrifice countless more people to such fates.

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pachinko is defined as recreational device as it pays toys, etc. 90% of pachink houses are owned by Korean Japanese. It does not pay money so civilians can operate pachinko parlor. Keirin, etc pays winning money. Any games betting and money is oaid is in definition of gambling but Japan does not have gambling law yet. Pachinko uses loan shark business to get back prizes and it is same way of money back but people keep eyes closed. They get accused on ball depending machines that now there are electronically mving ball type machines.

Casinos - usually inside of high rise hotels that does not have 13th floor. More entertainment theaters than table game areas. Also video pokers and slot floors. No smoking and alcohols are usually prohibited in gaming area. No minors allowed in gaming area. I don;t know how they do in Japan if approved. In Vegas, some has 30 or more stories but Pent houses are occupied by very wealthy or movie people

Many northeast states invited mega-casino hotels to make one there. New Jersey succeeded. /////we used to runore NJ got casinos there because it invited in summer while others invited in spring. Other states forgot Vegas is hot and their spring is colder than Vegas winter. So, Atlantic City is doing fine there. Tokyo and Ohsaka, Good luck to invite Casinos from all Summert weather.

I read that Japan will legalize gambling with definitions. Also NV tyoe Gaming Control Board will be created.

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