China's Xi urges Japan to put aside distractions in relations

China should learn from history as the Japanese have. If they can't the results could become very destructive for everybody involved.

Xi urged Japan to learn from history so as to have a "better future" in its ties with China, the report added.

Exactly. This often repeated line coming from China which is now trying to take over Asia as Japan did 70-80 years ago is totally hypocritical. China needs to learn from History!

Xi's attitude is apparently different compared with that of to Abe. It comes from the fact that America has the strongest military in the world. Might is respected.

China's Xi urges Japan to put aside distractions in relations

Stop causing trouble then, warmongers

China is a dictatorship and of course it's wrong.

but let's be honest here,Japan is not the shining paladin of democracy and human rights,as far as I remember the Nippon kaigi is at the helm of this government.

japan got it's dirty hands as well in this story.

William77Today  09:55 am JST

but let's be honest here,Japan is not the shining paladin of democracy and human rights,as far as I remember the Nippon kaigi is at the helm of this government.

japan got it's dirty hands as well in this story.

Sure. All of Asia is in an uproar over Japan. I'm sure in your mind that makes China's antics in the SCS look like nothing.

William77

Japan, the US, and its allies, as well as India and Taiwan may prove to be China's limit.

They probably just want some space and respect.

If you look at a map, the senkakus are really close to China and far from Japan.

Also most new world or even regional powers do a land grab in the immediate space around them. History proves this is the rule, not the exception.

Japan never governed Taiwan. Japan invaded it, illegally occupied it, and perhaps still wanted to steal it. Abe is the only Japawn PM who refuged to visit China his 5 years. He wasted Japanese valuable time, and perhaps at cost of Japan economy by trillions.

mulanToday 11:04 am JSTJapan never governed Taiwan. Japan invaded it, illegally occupied it, and perhaps still wanted to steal it.

Wrong on ALL counts. Japan governed Taiwan from 1885 to 1945. Japan never invaded Taiwan, it was ceded by the Ching Dynasty (China) in accordance with the Treaty of Shimonoseki which concluded the Sino-Japanese War of 1884/85. There was nothing illegal about it, and Japan has no interest in "stealing" it now, in the way China is trying to steal the Senkakus and the entire South China Sea by declaring it's ridiculous 9-dash line.

From European history I learned that Taiwan was Portuguese colonized island called Formosa(means:beautiful) and very messy the history of Asia where most regions was invaded by Chinese dynasties from remote centuries ago. Once belonged to one dynasty to be another by a new winner (dynasty). Communist China wants to amount all of those dynasties of centuries ago to be one China and the huge economic power behind communist party sovereignty, to be once conquered using several possible meanings or interpretations to say it was/is China every corner of Asia, esp. the sea territories. That's the history of China made by Chinese historians of every dynasties that doesn't mean 'China' to me, still ambiguous...

Until recently I did not know about Nippon Kaigi. I knew it for the first time on this site. As is the case with me, many Japanese do not know about it, I presume. I checked about it and found many members of Abe's cabinet are certainly the members of it. I do not know about their activities well but the members are mostly old folks and they are not as extreme as Ku Klux Klan. In any country there are right wing groups.

"Wrong on ALL counts. Japan governed Taiwan from 1885 to 1945. Japan never invaded Taiwan, it was ceded by the Ching Dynasty (China) in accordance with the Treaty of Shimonoseki which concluded the Sino-Japanese War of 1884/85. There was nothing illegal about it, and Japan has no interest in "stealing" it now, in the way China is trying to steal the Senkakus and the entire South China Sea by declaring it's ridiculous 9-dash line."

If you think that a treaty was signed under a gun point is a fair and legal treaty, then you may deny that Taiwan was not invaded by Japan, but willingly ceded by the then Qing Government. Unfortunately, international community was not on your side and this is why at the end of the WWII, US, UK, USSR and China forced Japan to return Taiwan to China. If you read history of Taiwan carefully, you should know the strong resistance of local people against Japanese invaders after Taiwan was "legally" ceded to Japan. As to Senkakus dispute, you should notice that when US government returned the island to Japan, it just returned administrative power, not sovereignty, to Japan. This has been repeatedly confirmed by US Government statements.

OssanAmericaToday  10:11 am JST

William77Today  09:55 am JST

but let's be honest here,Japan is not the shining paladin of democracy and human rights,as far as I remember the Nippon kaigi is at the helm of this government.

japan got it's dirty hands as well in this story.

"Sure. All of Asia is in an uproar over Japan. I'm sure in your mind that makes China's antics in the SCS look like nothing."

Amazing how you can read other people's mind.

My point won't change,China is causing lot's of trouble in the region for sure.

Continental China is Imposing it's will to many neighbor counties but still,having an ultra right nationalist government like the one here in Japan won't help to relax the nerves.

Japan still argue with South Korea for Takeshima and debating with Russia for the Kuril islands.

How about if Germany ask France,Poland,Russia and Slovakia to return Alsace,Lorraine which were part of the Holy Roman Empire or East Prussia and Koenigsberg which were at the beginning portions of the Teutonic knight order and then to the Kingdom Of Prussia ?

Furthermore Trump unpredictable foreign politics it's not helping for sure the scenario.

Have the courtesy to respect other people's opinion.

The harder China push, the further they push the U.S, Japan, South Korea, India and Australia together. Issuing veiled threats against Japan on a regular basis. The threat of war against the Philippines got them to capitulate. That is a lesson learned. Never show weakness. We must stand together, plan and bolster our offensive and defensive positions. China is now busy threatening India and Bhutan on their borders, attempting to change the status quo by force. Same as the South China Sea. And yet we continue to support them economically. The U.S continues to run a $300+ billion a year deficit. Trump should be encouraging American companies, very, very firmly, to get there imports elsewhere - ASEAN, Eastern Europe, South America at the lower end of the market. Countries and peoples with which the U.S could have a far better relationship. Above all, he should be getting them to focus their attention on India and moving away from China as rapidly as possible. We should all be withdrawing investment from China and even more importantly, halting inward investment from China. Every day we make them stronger with our own money and choices. Aside from a few electronic products, there's nothing that comes from China that other countries can't provide. With research everything provided can be replaced by others. Its not even difficult compared to the sort of cooperation we saw in WW2 to defeat Hitler.

If the border issue in Doklam gets out of control and China attacks, expect extremely strong calls in India for a complete import ban on Chinese products. There are growing calls for it. A welcome development in the long run.

I have no problem to cede Tokyo to any power under any treaty and let others to govern it. There is nothing illegally about it, even Japanese would fight to death to protect it. Obviously, Abe is the international law. What he said is what others have to follow.

Xi doesn't have to be so nice to Abe. Let Abe wrong. Japanese people would deal with him eventually when enough is enough.

Abe is still in power.  He and his cohorts will be keeping friendly with Taiwan.

Xi still doesn't get it!

Abe is against anything about China.  This will never change so China should not hope for it.

Taiwan belongs to the Non-Han, Non-Nippon , genuine Native Taiwanese First Nation.

The trouble in their beautiful island is caused by the ever- bickering Han colonizers of the Wai Shen Tribe , Minnan Tribe and the Hakka Tribe. All their ancestors came from China.

Meanwhile the Non-Han Tribes who speaks 12 different Non-Chinese languages, continued to be look down by the ancestors of the Han colonizers.

It's about time for the U.N. to recognize their Non-Han Naruwan Republic and invite them to be a member with open arms .

In this way, the PRC could no longer claim Taiwan  under the aegis of the common Chinese race dictum.

Tell the Chinese to "stick it" in that place where the Sun doesn't shine!

I agree with Canadian.

@Leiden

If you think that a treaty was signed under a gun point is a fair and legal treaty,

then you may deny that Taiwan was not invaded by Japan, but willingly ceded

by the then Qing Government.

The Qing Dynasty ran a protection racket over Korea.

The Japanese - with Korean modernist support - ran them out of town.

As part of the settlement following that, Formosa - of which the Qing never show any great interest and neglected - was lawfully ceded to Japan. The Chinese saw it as a troublesome extremity not worth having. The war was already over. It was not "signed at gun point". You guys are being hysterical.

Do you have any idea how many legal agreements are signed after how many wars? It is the normal form.

Japan occupied its then legally owned territory and faced illegal, guerilla resistance.

The question you need to ask is, "who was funding and arming that resistance, and why?".

Once Formosa was pacified, it received extensive investment, development and industrialization the nature of which, and the expense of which, had not even happened on China mainland or Korea; industry, education, welfare, traffic and public utilities. Indeed, much of the infrastructure existing to this day is based on Japanese infrastructure. It tackled such traditional problems as opium addiction, foot binding and slavery etc.

Of course, quickly we discover part of the resistance being funded and directed by bandit leaders involved into the opium trade, Hakka mercenaries who had themselves been involved in suppressing and massacring other indigenous groups, e.g. in Vietnam and Western merchants.

That they fought with Remington, Winchester and Krupp weapons ought to answer that question for you.

Other Taiwanese aborigines had no particular loyalty to or association with China, and saw no difference between being ruled by Chinese and by Japanese. They were not Chinese, they are Austronesian, and bitterly hostile to the Chinese.

Equally, neither did the ethnic Chinese who settled in Taiwan under the Ming Dynasty have any particular loyalty to the distant, disinterested Chinese state, and so were not all that concerned about being ruled from Tokyo.

They literally welcomed the Japanese in a response to the Chinese Republican army looting and burning their cities.

The Chinese Nationalist retaking of Taiwan at the end of WWII was just yet another foreign conquest not a liberation and led to large-scale massacres of native Taiwanese by the KMT troops, the kind of large-scale massacres of native Chinese it carried out in China Mainland (killing approx. 15 million dead).

As ever, the Chinese Communist Party is engaged in hypocritical doubletalk and historical revision.

How it has grounds for any claim on Taiwan is beyond reason and rationality.

As usual and as expected, Japawn Imperialists always have excuses and legal basis for all bad things. When Japawn bombed others, it was righteousness, when Japawn was bombed, it was crime against humanity. When Japawn raped women, it was comfort, when Japawn was raped, it was, well...

There are no Taiwan originals, they are all from Chinese ancestors, as there are no Japanese, they are all from mainland. All pure Japanese, with black hairs and yellow skins, should have your genes examined to prove Mulan is right. You may find some bacterias and virus and sour grape and ham, but 99.99% Japanese genes are Chinese original.

Some Japanese are not graceful for being able to return back from China, including from Taiwan, alive. Some of them not even thankful for being able to stay in China, including in Taiwan, alive. They are spreading rumors and lies, they are inciting violences and still trying to divide Chinese nation, against all current and past international laws.

Too bad for them, you have no chance to repeat the past crimes against Chinese. You can fool people once but you can't fool people forever.

mulan: Too bad for them, you have no chance to repeat the past crimes against Chinese.

Why would they want to, China is the troublemaker here.

Matt Hartwell: China is now busy threatening India and Bhutan on their borders, attempting to change the status quo by force. Same as the South China Sea. And yet we continue to support them economically. The U.S continues to run a $300+ billion a year deficit. Trump should be encouraging American companies, very, very firmly, to get there imports elsewhere - ASEAN, Eastern Europe, South America at the lower end of the market. 

Totally agree, we should find a way to stop funding the Chinese war chest.

William77July 9  01:38 pm JST

OssanAmericaToday  10:11 am JST

William77Today  09:55 am JST

but let's be honest here,Japan is not the shining paladin of democracy and human rights,as far as I remember the Nippon kaigi is at the helm of this government.

japan got it's dirty hands as well in this story.

"Sure. All of Asia is in an uproar over Japan. I'm sure in your mind that makes China's antics in the SCS look like nothing."

Amazing how you can read other people's mind.

My point won't change,China is causing lot's of trouble in the region for sure.

Continental China is Imposing it's will to many neighbor counties but still,having an ultra right nationalist government like the one here in Japan won't help to relax the nerves.

Where? Besides China and Korea? PM Abe received a standing ovation from both houses of Congress. No country in Asia besides those two have ANY problem with Japan, and in fact are turning to Japan for support in resisting China's advances.

Japan still argue with South Korea for Takeshima and debating with Russia for the Kuril islands.

When the Syngman Rhee line was arbitrarily drawn it was the United States that advised Japan to object and take ROK to the ICJ. To date Japan has tried to settle the dispute at the ICJ THREE times and South Korea has refused each time.

The Southern Kuriles are considerd by the US as Japanese territory under Russian occupation. So does the UK and the EU. The USSR took advantage of WWII to take islands which had been Japanese by treaty wit Russia since 1855, AFTER Japan surrendered.

The Southern Kuriles are considerd by the US as Japanese territory under Russian occupation.

If what the great USA believes is law then Japan has broken that dictum by nationalizing the Tiauyutai/Senkakus .

Uncle Sam only returned administrative control of those rocks to Japan but not sovereignty.

We must give credit to Japanese intuition for predicting the future where nobody is already taking the US so seriously.

It was a very a very shrewd move by Japan to nationalize them rocks when America could no longer have the final say.

Nowadays , Xi should realize that he's to go to Putin first if he wants something from Washington. Lol!

According to some Americans who are HC fanatics, the American people elected their prexy through Moscow!

Can you people believe that?

@Hiro,

Legally, the USA could not "return sovereignty" to Japan because Japan never lost it. Japan did not "nationalize" the Senkaku, it had already on formally incorporate them into Japanese territory on January 14, 1895. That did not change during the American occupation.

Either you have no idea what the legal terms mean, or you are deliberately attempting to confuse people's minds about them.

@mulan

There are no Taiwan originals, they are all from Chinese ancestors, as

there are no Japanese, they are all from mainland

Wow, let me have some of that Middle Earth dope this guy is on. I had no idea the CPC was manufacturing its own strain of LSD.

Austronesian Taiwaneses might have migrated 6000 years ago (the 'all Asians came Out of Sundaland 10,000 years ago' theory is going to blow their minds), but they are still Chinese.

And so are the Japanese?

NB:

a 2009 genetic study published by the 2009 Human Genome Organization Pan-Asian SNP Consortium found that Asia was originally settled by humans via a single southern route. The migration came from Africa via India, into Southeast Asia and what are now islands in the Pacific, and then later up to the eastern and northern Asian mainland. Chinese expansion occurred very recently, within only the last 2,000 to 3,000 years,

But, hey, by the same logic, does not that mean all Chinese are just African emigrants too?

When China's Xi "urges Japan to put aside distractions in relations" he means, "Shut up and stop complaining about how we are trying to shaft you, and stop meddling in our affairs as we shaft your neighbors".

@Hammerhead:

Thank you for your kind response. Appreciate it!

Unfortunately , as much as I wanted to believe your version of the sovereignty of them Tiauyutai rocks, I also find it difficult to disregard the announcement of the former POTUS Obama whose official recorded statement is as follows:

But he reiterated Washington’s refusal to take sides in the sovereignty dispute and called on China and Japan to resolve their differences through dialogue.

“We don’t take a position on final sovereignty on the Senkakus but historically they’ve been administered by Japan and should not be subject to change unilaterally.

“My hope is that Chinese will continue to engage with the US and other countries. We don’t take a position on this piece of land or this piece of rock but we do take a position on the peaceful resolution of these disputes.”

Obama, who is making the first state visit to Japan by a US president for almost 20 years, instead he was simply repeating Washington's traditional position on the Senkaku dispute. “This is not a new position,” he said. “I emphasised to Prime Minister Abe the importance of resolving this peacefully, keeping the rhetoric low and not taking provocative actions.”

https://www.google.com.tw/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/24/obama-in-japan-backs-status-quo-in-island-dispute-with-china

Coming from him who many considered as the more presidential and therefore more credible POTUS (VS the Donald) , I am therefore made to choose between his version or your very own official statement, ahem...

So who do you suppose I / We should believe?

You or USA President Obama?

Please give an honest answer.

Either you don't have any idea of the official legal terms used by your very own President or you are being paid to deliberately confuse people?

BTW, nice new monicker!

PS: There is a probability that President Xi read President Barack's statements that's why he firmly told Abe it's time to avoid distractions!

Hiro S NobumasaToday 05:49 am JST@Hammerhead:

Unfortunately , as much as I wanted to believe your version of the sovereignty of them Tiauyutai rocks, I also find it difficult to disregard the announcement of the former POTUS Obama whose official recorded statement is as follows:

Under the Obama administration, two Secretaries of State, two Secretaries of Defense and President Obama himself stated that the United States would defend the Senkakus from foreign attack. Under the Trump administration Secretary of Defense Mattis stated;

""I made clear that our long-standing policy on the Senkaku Islands stands -- the US will continue to recognize Japanese administration of the islands and as such Article 5 of the US-Japan Security Treaty applies," Mattis said in a press conference"

Same with Secretary of State Tillerson; "The United States is obligated to defend the Senkaku Islands on behalf of Japan, new U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson told Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida in their first telephone conversation on Feb. 7."

So arguing about the U.S, position on sovereignty of the Senkakus is a waste of time as the U.S. will act as if Japan's sovereignty was recognized and China would have to be prepared to engage the United States militarily to take them, something they are not prepared to do.

@Ossan America

Thank you for your kind response, Sir OA! It's always a pleasure having you around!

“We don’t take a position on final sovereignty on the Senkakus but historically they’ve been administered by Japan and should not be subject to change unilaterally.

I think the keyword here is that there should be no unilateral change such as the use of force wherein the US is obligated to defend treaty ally Japan.

However , this does not alter the official Washington statement that 'USA don't take a position on final sovereignty on DYT" which is very clear language to whom it may concern.

IMHO, Beijing got this message so they are only resorting to ship incursions on surrounding seas but not landing on them rocks.

This is status quo per se which also doesn't change US position that it will not take sides in the sovereignty dispute.

Of course if you have any new information about a change in US policy then please feel free to share!

Thank you!

@OssanAmerica

"I made clear that our long-standing policy on the Senkaku Islands stands -- the US will continue to recognize Japanese -----administration ---of the islands and as such Article 5 of the US-Japan Security Treaty applies," Mattis said in a press conference"

This was supposed to be the statement that sent Abe to the hospital.

It's a known secret that Shinzo strong armed the Donald administration to change the word administration to sovereignty but to no avail thus requiring the stressed out PM to double his steroid dose resulting to his fainting.

@Hiro S Nobumasa

Obviously, this is a subject about which the Chinese Communist Party troll army has been activated for many years and provided with a number of scripts. Although I am not accusing you of being directly part of it, you may be being effected by the halo effect around.

One of its scripts or strategies, where it cannot win the argument, is to cast doubt and confusion about the current situation.

However , this does not alter the official Washington statement that 'USA don't take a position on final sovereignty on DYT" which is very clear language

All the "USA don't take a position on final sovereignty on Senkaku Islands" means is precisely that. You are correct, it is perfectly clear, however, it does not mean what you are inferring.

The USA is not the final arbiter in such disputes.

In short, "it's none of its business" ... beyond defending the Senkaku as Japanese territory according to the international agreement.

All China has to do is take the matter to the correct international court or forum to have the matter decided.

China refuses to do so because it would lose, and the leadership thereby lose face to its citizenship.

For Japan, there is no sovereignty dispute. It owns them. It administers them. It has done so since the 19th C when it acquired them as terra nulla in a perfectly legal and painstaking manner. And it has been official recognized by China, in official maps and official correspondence, in the past for doing so. There is no argument.

If China disagrees, all it has to do is take it the matter to court (UNCLOS Tribunal). Why won't it?

China’s first assertions of sovereignty over the Senkakus were made just one year after seismic surveys of the sea floor surrounding the islands had discovered the existence of significant oil and gas reserves.

I'd say it's "perfectly clear" what's going on here and the whole world is laughing at China's undignified posturing over the matter.

China's contempt towards international law and the international community is summed up in Ministry of Foreign Affairs Spokesperson Hong Lei bizarre and arrogant comment,

“Isn’t it a weird thing in international affairs to submit a sovereign country’s territory to international arbitration? What a chaos the world will be in if this happens?"

It disregards International laws and conventions and sees itself above them.

The answer is simple, go to court, pick a fight with the combined US and Japanese navies, or STFU.

@Hammerhead

Thank you for your kind response!

It's the first time I heard that those official Obama statements sayin US does not take sides in DYT sovereignty issues were influenced by China's troll army!

Actually DYT does not belong either to Japan nor to China.

Those rocks really belongs to Ilan county of the nascent Taiwan Republic.

If you look at the map it's obvious that it is just a crows flight from Taiwan!

Moreover, geographically speaking, the subcontinental shelf of them rocks is connected to Taiwan's Tatun Mountain range wherein the flora and fauna are of very similar variety.

Taiwan indeed want to brought the issue to the International Arbitration Court but Japan refused sayin that Taiwan is not a sovereign country!

Hollering rabbits! What a nasty reply to a very Japanese friendly Taiwan!

Moreover, even Uncle Sam knows that the PRC and Japan indeed agreed to have the island issue shelved when both established diplomatic relations in 1972 and again in 1978 when they signed the Treaty of Peace and Friendship.

This explains why Washington's official unchanging position is that it does not take sides in the sovereignty issue because both parties agree that their is indeed a sovereignty dispute that needs to be shelved for future generations to solve.

Why Nippon now denies this solid fact is beyond anybody's imagination.

http://apjjf.org/2014/12/30/Reinhard-Drifte/4154/article.html

Firstly, both Japan and China are great nations with great culture. It is not worthy it to even dispute over a tiny petty Islands. Secondly, Abe is the most stupid pawn to get US involved in the dispute in terms of military protection. Xi is correct, there shouldn't be a distraction to the great relationship between Japan and China. Have Japanese and Chinese learned from past 3000 years experiences? When people get along with each other, there are so many good things to them. Northeast Asia shouldn't be divided any longer, not by Abe.

@mulan

I appreciate it is "on script" to blame Abe and characterize him as "Far Right" etc but in this case there is no blame on the Japanese side.

It owns the Senkaku. The blame is on China and Xi for aggressing and invading Japanese waters.

Essentially, China is smacking Japan in the face and then accusing it for being the problem.

@Hiro S Nobumasa

I don't know what DYT stands for, are you discussing the Senkaku Islands?

The Senkaku Islands were lawfully incorporated into Japan in the 1800s. End of story.

PRC and Japan indeed agreed to have the island issue shelved ... both parties agree that their is indeed a sovereignty dispute

The PRC and Japan never agreed to have the island issue shelved. You are referring to a one side, unofficial statement a Chinese leader made at a press conference. Chinese leaders do not get to tell Japan what has been agreed.

Show us the treaty or withdraw your claim.

Japan does not agree there is a sovereignty dispute, it has no need to. It owns them.

If China disputes Japan's ownership, all it has to do is go to the right tribunal and prove its claim. Both China and Taiwan only began making their own assertions on territorial sovereignty over the Senkaku Islands in the 1970s, after the academic that indicated the possibility of the existence of petroleum resources.

Taiwan is not a "sovereign nation" ... as recognized under international law and by the UN.

It is China who demands that the rest of the world does not recognize Taiwan as a nation, so you cannot blame Japan for that.

None of the arguments that the Chinese government or Taiwanese authorities have presented on historical, geographic or geological grounds is valid evidence under international law. The U.S. Government recognized Japan’s “residual sovereignty” over the Nansei Shoto Islands, including the Senkaku in 1957.

But, of course, you are just repeat verbatim the usual troll army script on these matters.

It is just the usual spreading of confusion with half truths, outright lies and blurring of lines, and attempting to wear people out with them.

The Senkaku are part of Japan. If you have a problem with that, take it to the court.

The big joke is, the CPC is currently in the process of burning 10,000s of books and maps it published in the recent past that show the islands are Japanese.

Credibility ... ZERO.

Meanwhile, Japan and Taiwan have a friendly relationship that allows Taiwanese to fish around them in Japanese waters.

@Hiro

Taiwan indeed want to brought the issue to the International Arbitration Court

Taiwan has never brought the issue to the International Arbitration Court.

China's claim is based on "owning" Taiwan. Perhaps it should resolve that issue first.

The Taiwanes are not interest in becoming part of a mythical Middle Earth.

Dear Ham mer head, please read history accurately before comment in an international forum. To know who is the first one who discovered the Islands is pretty easy, just look who named them first. DiaoYu Islands are much closer to China than to Japan, that is the most natural way to prove things. Between Japan and DiaoYu, there is another country, Okinawa, an indisputable barrier for Japanese claim. There is also a Japanese professor, very well known, who wrote a book about the Senkaku, and who said it all in the book: it belongs to China. There is also a very well known movie, by American producer, a famous one, who produced a movie about the DiaoYu Islands just one years ago, who also said it in the documentary convincingly that the Islands are Chinese.

Japan has no great relationship with Taiwan. Chinese people have legal right to fish anywhere in its own fishing ground. Taiwan doesn't need any permission from Japan to work in its own territory. Taiwan is very well guarded by mainland China. There is no single foreign soldier on Taiwan land, can Japan do the same?

Look, Mulan, I'll be kind to and try to explain what's going on here.

Two of the primary tools of the Communist progandists is to seed confusion, in order to impair proper judgement, and whip up angers and disgust in order to misdirect people. I don't know if you know what you and others like you are saying is rubbish, or whether you are deliberately saying so as to confuse people.

Putting aside for one minute that for China and Taiwan it is all just about the potential of petroleum resources under the sea around them, the core problem relates to China's relationship with International Maritime Law.

Historically, China made a great mistake of banning large ships capable of overseas journeys (which is one reason why Chinese ships and seamen never went or made it over to the Senkaku) and turned its attention within to its land and all important internal water. Therefore, it was not party of the creation of International Maritime Law.

Whereas Western powers, followed by Japan, grew to become international maritime powers, China was asleep, looking within and tied up with land based struggles.

Modern Communist China did not arise until the 1950s until the colonialists' party was long finished, and International Maritime Law already well established.

Modern Communist China has absolute ZERO legal claims on China's various historical pasts.

In plain English, it is just butt hurt at its own stupidity, for 'not being asked to play' (being part of the creation of International Maritime Law), and 'no one caring it what it thinks'.

Not existing before 1949 ... Mao's "navy" being little more than a few canoes ... it simply was not there to be asked.

Unfortunately, the only response one can have to that is ... I am sorry, but tough luck. That's life. If you did not exist, you could not be asked ... but this is the established order now.

Japan owns the Senkaku and all the waters around it because it followed International Law. Not Japanese Law. Not 'Jacky Chan's Middle Earth Kung Fu Secret Law'. International Law. And, Japan being Japan, followed it carefully to the letter.

China has no legal claim. What claims it makes are about equivalent to me claiming to own the Shires on the basis of what Tolkein wrote in Lord of the Rings.

In other words, mythology.

Bizarrely, Modern China appears to have adopted some of the cultural baggage of the same kind of self-centered arrogance and stupid of the very same Chinese people the Communists fought against to depose. The mentality of believing itself to be "the Middle Earth" kingdom.

Actually, in truth, I don't think the leaders believe that, however, I do think the leaders are aware of the value of the nationalistic value of that, and Japan Hate, and how useful it is at misleading it own people from internal problems, such as corruption within the leadership of the CPC and their powerful families.

@Hammer

Again, thank you for your kind response!

Taiwan wants to bring the DYT case to the International Arbitration Court but Japan blocked it right away by arguing that well , nice try ! ...but hey you are not even a sovereign state so shut up! Period.

@Hammerhead

It is China who demands that the rest of the world does not recognize Taiwan as a nation, so you cannot blame Japan for that.

Hello again Hammerhead!

I'm really so sorry to say that this is the most absurd statement that is not only insulting but degrading to Japan!

You meant to say that China's demands are Japan's command?

Japan is a sovereign and independent country and it's expected to have an independent foreign policy.

Blamin China for Japan not having diplomatic relations with very, very, very Japan -friendly Taiwan is just like Hillary fanatics accusing Russia for the Donald's victory!

Japan is not the law. 'International Law' and 'International Maritime Law' is the law. It would be nice if China accept it and acted accordingly.

Japan has and is and has benefited hugely from doing so.

The PRC is only 70 years old at most. Through out the history of the region, previous dynastic influence has increased and decreased.

Which Middle Earth fantasy does the Communist Party choose? Which is the most authentic one?

Can we pick the smallest one, or does China demand the biggest of all them put together, even where it includes now foreign territorities?

Who is the rightful descedent of the Qing Dynasty, the Communist (CPC) party or the Kuomintang (KMT) party?

I'd probably agree the the Kuomintang (KMT) and that China should be owned and ruled by Taiwan and then china can go to court to have the Senkaku Islands back.

But try telling that to the Communist Party first.

The Japanese government's official position on China/Taiwan hasn't changed since the 1978 'Treaty of Peace and Friendship Between Japan and the People's Republic of China'. In this signed treaty, Japan recognizes Taiwan properly as part of PRC China. It follows the law and sticks to its agreements.

It, and numerous other Asian countries, expects China to do so, and recognize International Law.

The problem is, China does not. It is hemmed in at all sides by International Law but refused to accept it. It acts like North Korea demanding to make its own laws, in the shared international realm. That is the problem and one that Japan will not provoke, so as not to be accused by Beijing.

Japan does not and has never blocked Taiwan from taking a case to an international tribunal.

Taiwan and China need to resolve their identity crises in order for the matter to procede legally.

Whose side do you take? China's or Taiwan's Indepedence?

Personally, I favor Taiwanese Indepedence. Taiwan is independent, it is just another one of China's arrogances and stupidities meddling in others affairs.

http://www.mofa.go.jp/region/asia-paci/senkaku/pdfs/senkaku_en.pdf

Well, an independent Japan will include its Senkaku until the matter is resolved in a court.

When Japan and Taiwan made agreement to share the fishing rights to the waters around it it angered China greatly as it hinted towards official recognition of Taiwan's independence.

What's your position on Taiwan's independence?

I would say it is already independent, and that Taiwanese control of China mainland would be preferable. But unlikely!

For past 2000 years, the Senkakus never were part of Japan, by your logic, Jpan never was an independent state?

Sure ... and all Chinese are actually African descendants, so the Senkaku belongs to Ethiopia.

And, presumably, he was carrying a copy of Mao's Little Red Book?

How China is rewriting the book on human origins

http://www.nature.com/news/how-china-is-rewriting-the-book-on-human-origins-1.20231

The Peking Man Delusion

http://www.theworldofchinese.com/article/the-peking-man-delusion/

And a map of the Senkakus.

DYT isles are the genuine inherent and very solid geographical part of Taiwan .

http://www.mofa.gov.tw/en/cp.aspx?n=38CD1D3C91067AEC

How can an admittedly annexed islands be an inherent part of Japan?

There is no need to annex an inherent part of anything , including islands!

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/annex

So Japan sayin it annexed the DYT means those rocks were not an inherent part of Nippon!

Japanese statements sayin the DYT and the Ryukyus are inherent parts of Japan therefore are false!

This is the mother of all fake news!

https://youtu.be/rq-z0-4Svtg