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China and Japan's long history of strained ties

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Japan and China have also a long history of compatible ties, . . . such as the adoption of the Kanji writing system, still used in present day Japanese language . . . and other cultural exchanges . . . .

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In the 1,500 years the two cultures, China and Japan, knew one another, China never launched an aggressive war against Japan. The opposite cannot be said, unfortunately.

You mean apart from the botched invasions during the Yuan dynasty?

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The author is clearly biased and skirts the fact that the second Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945) was fought by Imperial Japan and the Republic of China. Which today is Taiwan and is allied with both Japan and the US.

The US supported the ROC during WWII and still does to this day.

The Republic of China (Taiwan) does not use WWII anti-JPN sentiment as a political and diplomatic tool. In contrast the PRC (China), which did not even exist until 4 years after WWII ended, does.

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Yawn, yet another tired journalistic hit piece on Japan that has to bring up irrelevant issues about past wartime actions to frame the current Fukushima water release nonsense.

Now you have ignorant Chinese citizens harassing random Japanese citizens by calling their phone numbers, and someone in Beijing threw a rock at the Japanese embassy.

Bunch of ignorant hypocrites.

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@Alfie

Hotoyama was very dangerous and Ozawa was/ is a common crook. The Obama administration refused to work with Hatoyama and made it impossible for him to fulfill any of his delusional campaign promises. Not exactly overthrowing a government and not sure what you’re getting at? Were you even in Japan during that time? Things were pretty bad.

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deanzaZZRToday  01:13 pm JST

Get back to me when Kublai Khan is a Chinese name and title. That Mongols took on the trappings of a Chinese dynasty will confuse those less steeped in Asian history as your post clearly demonstrates.

The Yuan Dynasty was "China" back then. Though ruled by the Mongols, the two invasion forces that attacked Japan were comprised of Mongol, Chinese and Korean troops.

Just as the Qing Dynasty was "China" during the Sino-Japanese War of 1884/85 even though it was ruled by the Manchus.

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Get back to me when Kublai Khan is a Chinese name and title. That Mongols took on the trappings of a Chinese dynasty will confuse those less steeped in Asian history as your post clearly demonstrates.

Foreign or not foreign, depending on your definition of "foreign", it was still the official Chinese government of its time and the aggressions carried out under its name. Engaging in selective history making when trying to make a point about Asian history, or any history for that matter, is both ineffective and arrogant, something someone as "steeped in Asian history" as you ought to know.

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quercetumToday  05:25 pm JST

> You are skirting the fact that the ROC or the Communists fought the Japanese with the Nationalists. Look up the United Front.

You are skirting the fact that the ROC nationalists bore the brunt of fighting the Japanese. With the Red Chinese taking advantage of the weakened nationalists. And the fact that the author, like all CCP supporters muddies the name "China" to confuse those not familiar with East Asian history.

In 1972 China (PRC) signed a Treaty of Friendship with Japan, even reaffirming it again in 1978. Agreements mean nothing to the CCP.

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This isn't news. It's history. Encyclopedias in book form even mention it

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Still on Japan's side! You got this Japan. Sad to see JT be taken over by pro China bots these days..

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Japan and China have also a long history of compatible ties, . . . such as the adoption of the Kanji writing system, still used in present day Japanese language . . . and other cultural exchanges . . . 

The "history" to the authors here, is to paint a bleak picture. There is quite a lot of compatibility and friendship between the people, but talking about that defeats the purpose of the article!

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They need each other to keep the show going. One players the fiddle, the other the flute. The difference is Japan has made it big, where China can't.

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If Dr. Shiro Ishii was really a war criminal then why was he not tried and executed like other Class A war criminals after the Tokyo Trials?

He was a microbiologist first and foremost and his contributions to biological research are invaluable.

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You are skirting the fact that the ROC nationalists bore the brunt of fighting the Japanese. 

So yes the Communists fought Japan. Your point was

China" to confuse those not familiar with East Asian history.

The author did no such thing. You just did with China muddling the Yuan and the Qing. You include them but don’t include the CPC until 1949?

Going along with your logic, since the Chinese and Koreans fought in the Mongol invasion then the Communists who fought against Japan along with the KMT, regardless who did most of the fighting, fought the Japanese.

As for hatred for Japan, it is definitely not unique to mainland but in Taiwan as well, namely the KMT.

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The Yuan Dynasty was "China" back then. 

China, the word didn’t even come into use until the 15th century, via the Portuguese. The Mongol invasions were in 1274 and 1281.

No, the Chinese don’t use the word China to refer to themselves until many centuries later. They didn’t use 中国人 but refer to themselves by the dynasty 唐人, 漢人. The equivalent would be Victorians, Edwardian, Georgian etc.

In the Yuan dynasty, the Chinese referred to the people in power as Mongolians 蒙古人 instead of 元人.

There is a reason it is called the Mongol invasion in China, Japan and everywhere else.

According to your faulty logic, Russians of Polish descent fighting in the Ukraine War means the Poles carried out the military operation of Ukraine in2022。

Koreans fought in the Imperial Army of Japan as you said in the past. Korea then, according to your logic attacked Pearl Harbor. Koreans invaded Burma, Hong Kong, Singapore, the Philippine and so on.

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The story of Unit 731 and the story of the Nanjing Massacre are nothing more than Chinese propaganda. Neither case was tried in the postwar Tokyo Trials.

Regarding Unit 731, there is an urban legend in China that there is no evidence that Japanese military officials handed over the results of human experiments to the United States and were not prosecuted.

Also, regarding the Nanjing Massacre, Chiang Kai-shek, who ruled Nanjing at the time, never mentioned the post-war massacre.

The book The Rape of Nanjing, written after the war, became a bestseller in the United States, but when it was examined, it was discovered that unrelated photographs were intentionally mixed up, and the author committed suicide in the end.

Even now, no evidence has been found that the Japanese military actively carried out massacres or inhumane experiments. Please let me know if you have any.

Why does this only happen in China?

The brutal Japanese army that colonized present-day Southeast Asia would have sacrificed a large number of people even in present-day ASEAN, but there are very few such examples.

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The author is clearly biased and skirts the fact that the second Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945) was fought by Imperial Japan and the Republic of China. 

You are skirting the fact that the ROC or the Communists fought the Japanese with the Nationalists. Look up the United Front.

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This article fails to mention the 2010 overthrow of the Democratic Party of Japan government of Hatoyama & Ozawa by the US government of Obama & Clinton. The Hatoyama government sought a rapprochment with China and was pursuing an independent foreign policy in North-East Asia. This was unacceptable to Washington, then just beginning Obama's demonisation of China through the "pivot to Asia".

How different the relations between Japan and China might be now without the regime change instigated by the US. At least Hatoyama and Ozawa escaped with their lives, unlike so many others in their position.

https://www.karelvanwolferen.com/46-havoc-fantasy-full-spectrum-dominance-26-sept-2014/

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Japan and China have also a long history of compatible ties, . . . such as the adoption of the Kanji writing system, still used in present day Japanese language

No other non-Chinese culture continues to use Kanji and hold affinity for its artistic elements in their written language. Korea and Vietnam no longer do despite the use of Chinese characters in their history. This common tie imo plays a role in the two countries’ relations.

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All I hear from Japan is don’t mention the war. I believe that has a big part to play in it as well. Japan has been able to throw money at the smaller Asian countries and let entertainers come here on special visas, but China is a much larger and very rich country. They want an apology.

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McGregor says in this article, "The Japanese have been their own worst enemies on history issues." Even today, the government and many Japanese do not want to recognize what Unit 731 did in the war. In Germany, they squarely faced the atrocities they did in the war and have been able to move forward, but in Japan, there are all sorts of rationalizations to avoid any discussion about this and other war atrocities. Too much baggage, and this only gets heavier as the living witnesses get older and pass away while the LDP rewrites history, and the local board of educations follows along meekly with the policy.

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Get back to me when Kublai Khan is a Chinese name and title. That Mongols took on the trappings of a Chinese dynasty will confuse those less steeped in Asian history as your post clearly demonstrates.

You mean apart from the botched invasions during the Yuan dynasty?

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How would purposefully releasing radioactive substances be an endearing action?

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Imagine how corrupt and incompetent the ROC government and army were that even with American support it lost a civil war.

The US supported the ROC during WWII and still does to this day.

In the 1,500 years the two cultures, China and Japan, knew one another, China never launched an aggressive war against Japan. The opposite cannot be said, unfortunately.

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Now Japan tainted that ties with radioactive waste.

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