China and Japan expected to discuss seafood ban

Headline should be Japan slightly happy after China give some little hope for seafood trade from tainted water ocean.

Headline should be "Japan shows the world that China is unreliable to do trade with".

The deal commits Japan to setting up a long-term international monitoring arrangement and allowing stakeholders such as China to conduct independent sampling and monitoring.

And is essentially the same deal as Japan offered well over a year ago, which China refused so that it could conduct its economic coercion for another year, in flagrant violation of WTO rules.

China cannot be trusted in any way, and all countries need to decouple/derisk from it to the extent possible. If not, it will use any dependency as a stick to beat you with.

The claim that Japan is polluting the ocean is about the only anti-rest-of-the-world position the CCP has taken that their people still believe. That and that Japan is still their enemy.

China will only concede if they can show Japan is begging for their business. I’m guessing they will ask for extraordinary measures from Japan, and Japan will concede. What’s more unfortunate, unlike China, Japan will actually honor their side of the agreement….

Isabelle, if the world "decouples " from China, the world goes into a Great Depression.

This is really a mess. When Japan shows negligible risk, China can use this to defend the actually harmful discharges from their nuclear plants. I’m directly in this industry, and as far as I know China commercial nuclear plants have nothing close to technology used at Fukushima to treat and mange discharges to water.

Japan should ban all seafood exports to China. China is not needed. Since China's ban Japanese seafood exports to the US, Canada, Eastern Europe, Thailand, Vietnam and the Midde East have all increased.

More importantly, Japan should ban all seafood imports from China.

"Plant in China releases water with higher amounts of tritium, scientist says, calling into question seafood ban imposed on Japan"

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/aug/25/fukushima-daiichi-nuclear-power-plant-china-wastewater-release

It’s not an issue of trust but doing what China tells you to do if you want to sell seafood to China.

China calls the shots not the WTO. The U.S. and China are above the WTO that’s why this matter hasn’t been dealt with by the WTO.

No one is forcing Japan to export seafood to China. There’s no obligation at all.

The government of China is intent on weaponizing a devastating natural disaster.

To leverage trade, to ruthlessly curtail Japan fishing industry, to extort, with menaces, intimidate, for geopolitical gain, to ransom force Government of Japan future silence,

Bend to Xi Jinping President of the People's Republic of China "instrument" of regional/state control, humiliate Japan into cowering permissive conformity.

GuruMickToday 08:57 am JST

Isabelle, if the world "decouples " from China, the world goes into a Great Depression.

And you know this how?

quercetumToday 12:11 pm JST

It’s not an issue of trust but doing what China tells you to do if you want to sell seafood to China.

You appear to be admitting (correct me if I'm wrong) that China does not follow the rules it has signed up to. Good - that's much more honest than the "safety" lies that the CCP spins.

For those interested, China's actions over the past year violate at least Article 2.2 and 5:

https://www.worldtradelaw.net/document.php?id=uragreements/spsagreement.pdf&mode=download

No one is forcing Japan to export seafood to China. There’s no obligation at all.

No one is forcing China to be part of the WTO. There's no obligation at all.

But if it is part of the WTO there are obligations.

Your point is irrelevant. The U.S. and China can do what they want. They call the shots not Japan; case in point Seafood ban.

The US cannot stop countries from selling chips to China either.

quercetumToday 04:43 pm JST

Your point is irrelevant.

No, you may wish it were irrelevant but that won't make it go away.

China signed up to the WTO rules, and it is breaking them with this ban: that's about as relevant a point as you can get.

The US cannot stop countries from selling chips to China either.

Now, that is irrelevant. The article has literally nothing to do with the US.

China and the US are breaking rules because they can and they do what they want.

Your response is they are both members of WTO.

This is too much for you. It’s okay.