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China called for independent monitoring

More tired, political games by the CCP. Your "call" was already answered a long time ago: constant, independent monitoring by the IAEA (including its Chinese experts), and an international framework, which you refused:

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/china-declined-join-iaea-system-monitor-fukushima-water-kyodo-2023-09-05/

China under the CCP is a lost cause, and cannot be worked with in any reasonable way. Japan, and the rest of the world, needs to accept this, and just move on.

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China called for independent monitoring of the ongoing discharge of treated radioactive water

well said China!, Japan can not investigate and judge its own fraud!

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Because China is the cleanest country in the world and knows everything there is to know about taking care of the environment.

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Oh boy. Just in time for...

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indigoToday  04:48 pm JST

China called for independent monitoring of the ongoing discharge of treated radioactive water

well said China!, Japan can not investigate and judge its own fraud!

There is no fraud. The disrcgarges are monitored by the IAEA.

China has been a me,ber of the IAEA since 1984.

The only fraud here is China using the discharge as a political weapon agaist Japan. Especially when China discharges far more than Japan.

"at least 10 nuclear plants in China in just a year discharged liquid effluents containing more than 4.5 quadrillion becquerels of tritium—more than 200 times the self-imposed annual limit for Fukushima's wastewater release"

https://time.com/6311984/china-japan-nuclear-wastewater-science-politics/

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pot kettle black

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Sure, right after we have an independent inquiry into the origins of COVID19.

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Independent monitoring of Fukushima seems fair if the same request can be done for the water released from Chinese nuclear plants.

But everyone knows China, they will claim it's unacceptable because of national security.

Such childish behavior from the CCP which is a shame for a country which has such a long long history.

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Normal muppetry from the Chinese.

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There is no fraud. The disrcgarges are monitored by the IAEA.

Exactly right Ossan, but it's fruitless to argue with these conspiracy loonies. They can never get past their own delusions.

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You guys are right that China wanting independent testing is hypocritical, but that doesn't mean it is wrong.

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To be honest I think I'm more worried about some cheap food from China cause some of it seems to taste of chemicals.

indigoToday

well said China!, Japan can not investigate and judge its own fraud!

I think the International Atomic Energy Agency is monitoring this. Link below. So I hope Japan wouldn't want to have another national nuclear disaster on its hands.

https://www.iaea.org/topics/response/fukushima-daiichi-nuclear-accident/fukushima-daiichi-alps-treated-water-discharge/tepco-data

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China called for independent monitoring of the ongoing discharge of treated radioactive water from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant into the sea

Talk about hypocrisy!! China is a two faced charlatan. Australia called for an independent investigation of Covid and China began a years long one way trade war for it. Saying it was a great offense to Chinese people. Does it now expect Japan to do a similar hatchet job on the things China makes big money from, that Japan can source from other nations? Japan should put 200% massive tariffs on Chinese goods for its outrageous request, As China did with Australian wine and other items. China has just given great offense to Japanese people, and I bet it couldn't care less.

China is not to be trusted. Boycott Chinese goods and services.

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Randy DaytonaToday 07:28 pm JST

Personally i think they should be testing the seaweeds as seaweed cleans the ocean

That and bottom fish like flounder or bottom feeders like crab

They've been doing this (no mention of crab, but seaweed, flounder, abalone, etc.) since March 2022:

https://www.tepco.co.jp/en/decommission/progress/watertreatment/breedingtest/index-e.html

And again, this is also monitored by the IAEA.

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The water is safe and so an independent third party agreed by China will show that. Then China will lift the ban.

You need to build an off ramp to make progress on this issue. Haven’t you ever dealt with conflicts and their resolutions?

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"treated Fukushima water" still contain many kinds of radioactivity besides tritium but Japan's LDP regime and TEPCO and major media never mention it.

China is oppressive state but also recent Japan where press freedom index is low and social atmosphere deny to criticize regime and government is tyrant.

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Hideomi KuzeToday 09:15 pm JST

"treated Fukushima water" still contain many kinds of radioactivity besides tritium but Japan's LDP regime and TEPCO and major media never mention it.

Ah, back again, regular as clockwork, with the same line that we debunk every time.

For the benefit of other people (most certainly not the above poster) who may not be aware of this, ALPS removes/reduces to safe levels the other (62) radionuclides. Here's an overview:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2359217-fukushima-the-inside-story-of-the-alps-treated-water/

The remaining Tritium is somewhere below one-sixth of the WHO's drinking water standard.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-66610977

The IAEA, which has a permanent office at Fukushima, said an "independent, on-site analysis" had shown that the tritium concentration in the water discharged was "far below the operational limit of 1,500 becquerels per litre (Bq/L)".

That limit is six times less than the World Health Organization's limit for drinking water, which is at 10,000 Bq/L, a measure of radioactivity.

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quercetumToday  08:58 pm JST

The water is safe and so an independent third party agreed by China will show that. Then China will lift the ban.

The IAEA is an independant third party. China is even a member.

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Independent testing has already been done.

What they mean is they want testing done by someone on their payroll.

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How's about Japan pour all that water around the atolls that China has fortified on areas they have no legal claim to?

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China is right..

Like it or not..

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It's not hypocritical at all. Chinese reactors have not suffered a nuclear melt down. The IAEA's mission is to promote nuclear power. It is not a neutral party and has a vestige interest in supporting the Japanese government and TEPCO.

You guys are right that China wanting independent testing is hypocritical, but that doesn't mean it is wrong.

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It is a fair and reasonable request.

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And meanwhile china is releasing more pollution in to the world and also their nuclear waste water release is more tritium in to the ocean but they ofcourse do not talk about it.

Political blablabla.

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If tepco is amenable to independent monitoring they would have set it up in the first place.

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Anyway what can this so called leader do?

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No doubt many people here believe testing sea water samples off Fukushima is proper monitoring of wastewater to be discharged.

Hilarious

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Anyway hopefully this will be tackled in the upcoming London convention meet

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Of course Japan will try to just dismiss it as not applying to the situation as the dumping of nuclear waste is from a land structure instead of a sea vessel or structure

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When IAEA chief Rafael Mariano Grossi visited Japan and told that IAEA approved the way Fukushima water would be released to the ocean, I wonder if the IAEA resolution was unanimous or not. Was it a majority vote resolution with some experts opposed to it?

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Pity they can't dump wastewater from a ship it might have been better if tepco can use a large tanker to dilute the wastewater and dump it further into the sea

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voiceofokinawa

Today 07:58 am JST

When IAEA chief Rafael Mariano Grossi visited Japan and told that IAEA approved the way Fukushima water would be released to the ocean

Approved seems an inappropriate word.

Does the iaea have the authority to approve or stop the dumping?

Did the iaea even used the word?

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All this whining and crying from a nation where the municipal tap water in their biggest cities is not safe to drink.

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ianToday 07:34 am JST

If tepco is amenable to independent monitoring they would have set it up in the first place.

They did, and anyone paying even the slightest amount of attention to this issue would know that.

That is, unless they're just reflexively posting anti-Japan stuff regardless of reality.

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Pity they can't dump wastewater from a ship it might have been better if tepco can use a large tanker to dilute the wastewater and dump it further into the sea

How much better? how much further? what changes in risk would you think would be observed by doing it that way instead of the current process? to say a different method may be better it would be necessary to provide some argument to justify this possibility.

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Ian,

IAEA is a U.N.-affiliated nuclear watch dog, isn’t it? It may not have police power, but certainly an authority to say something is right or wrong.

I wanted to point out in my post above that if its resolution concerning the water release was not unanimously decided on with some experts opposed to it, then there is a room to question if the measure adopted for the Fukushima water release is absolutely correct.

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China and its food industry is one of the worst, if not the the worst, of having a polluted country. The toxic air and food is known around the world. The CCP hierarchy never eat Chinese produced food stuffs, because they know its bad.

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The CCP hierarchy never eat Chinese produced food stuffs, because they know its bad.

Actually they do. The top CCP leadership in Beijing gets food from exclusive farms. But if you think about rank and file CCP flunkies in outlying cities and provinces they buy their food from the same stores everyone else does.

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Where does China have any credibility as it continues to cover up the coronavirus? If you can make public the level of pollution emitted from nuclear power plants in China, give it a try. China, a major polluter, will likely be in a position to be monitored.

The whole world knows that before complaining about Japan, we must improve our country's international credibility. Everyone knows that it is impossible.

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Sure, in exchange lets hold every Chinese factory to the same standard ;)

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Maybe international monitors should measure the filth flowing out of China's rivers into the Pacific Ocean? Just saying ...................

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