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“The unyielding Chinese people fought gallantly and finally won total victory against the Japanese militarist aggressors, thus preserving China’s 5,000-year-old civilisation and upholding the cause of peace,” Xi said.

In the kingdom of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

Le sigh

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“The unyielding Chinese people fought gallantly and finally won total victory against the Japanese militarist aggressors

... with a good dollop of help from their war time allies, but no mention of that.

But Xi said that China’s military—the largest in the world—would be reduced by 300,000 troops and that Beijing will “not seek hegemony” in the world.

Let us pray that despite appearances this is the truth.

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Umm, wasn't it the Allied Powers of USA, UK , USSR etc defeated Japan? Kinda hard to win with 3 or 4 against 1. By the way the present Communist government was locked in battles with the Nationalist government The lion share of fighting was from the Nationlist government that fled to Taiwan.

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Keep dreaming China, maybe one day you will get your pineapple trophy.

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“The unyielding Chinese people fought gallantly and finally won total victory against the Japanese militarist aggressors, thus preserving China’s 5,000-year-old civilisation and upholding the cause of peace,” Xi said.

...only to have Chairman Mao pretty much destroy it a few decades later during the cultural revolution.

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"China’s 'total victory' over Japanese invasion “restored China’s status as a major country in the world”, Xi said. “The unyielding Chinese people fought gallantly and finally won total victory against the Japanese militarist aggressors, thus preserving China’s 5,000-year-old civilisation and upholding the cause of peace,” Xi said.

This is wonderful news! It means that since China defeated Japan (and they did it by themselves according the article) that Japan doesn't need to apologize anymore for WWII!

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I don't understand why China is being so hostile and aggressive while it states that it's important to make the world more peaceful. Probably It's trying to raise the sense of nationalism and tarnish the image of Japan, however, this attitude actually just shows the world China's aggressiveness, which is making the image of it worse and worse.

There should be another way to celebrate the 70 anniversary of the end of the war.

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Keep dreaming China, maybe one day you will get your pineapple trophy.

Mitsuo -- actually it's more like a nightmare, as the estimates are that nearly 20 million Chinese perished during Japan's rule. And while I am no huge fan of China's, I find all the "hating" by folks here on JT very hypocritical. This is the FIRST time China has had such a celebration to commemorate the end of the war. And, a country that suffered that kind of brutality is certainly due that. But, it is quite OK for Japan to continue to play the victim card and memorialize Hiroshima and Nakasaki EVERY YEAR, and also several times a year at Yasukuni. What gives with that?

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China and Japan, mirror images of each other in having selective memories regarding "history"!

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and also several times a year at Yasukuni. What gives with that?

Do I see a solution here? If China can celebrate every September 3rd like it's "1999", will China stop whining about Yasukuni?

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This is the FIRST time China has had such a celebration to commemorate the end of the war. And, a country that suffered that kind of brutality is certainly due that.

Don't you find that holding a military parade is a strange way to commemorate the end of a war (i.e. the beginning of peace)?

But, it is quite OK for Japan to continue to play the victim card and memorialize Hiroshima and Nakasaki EVERY YEAR

The memories of Hiroshima and Nagasaki are one of the things that keeps this country so pacifist. Can China -- or any other country -- say the same thing?

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Forget the history! It's what China was showing to the world that was the message-a large number of new machines were on display to deter Japan. China knows that Japan is fortifying bases on Okinawa and Amani Oshima-an arms race is the result!!!!'

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Hey jerseyboy,, you're being critical of Japan in a forum filled with Japaophiles. No wonder you're getting negative likes.. As you I too am no huge fan of China.. Nor am I a huge fan of Japan's media generated month of self-pity every August. If one didn't know any better and all you knew of WWII was what you learned from Japan's media in August .. Not only would you get the impression that Japan was a victim of the war but that she was the only victim....

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Xi used his speech to announce troop cuts of 300,000, so at least some good has come out of this. : )

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For anyone that missed ...China V-Day Parade 2015 ....New China TV.View ..full 3hours...The commentary is a tad slanted ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCfdGzXPN_w

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Lol, the comments here.

I am sure it's hard to swallow for those used to the status quo, but the world domination/policing of America and its wishful attempts to suppress/contain China are no more and crumbling so rapidly. Even the CNN guest commentator during the parade today agreed that China (even with less war experience and less war-infused mentality such as the U.S. forces) would be unpredictably or insurmountly hard to defeat in any military scenario, not to mention China's other options that are superbly and quickly matching or surpassing U.S.' domination in other military capabilities.

Ha ha.. bet the parade and mini show of force by China today sure pulled Abe and his cronies also back from his wet dream (to confront/match China) to reality. One has to wonder what China didn't show today (it was said the parade today displayed like only 2%?? of China's massive arsenal). Even the U.S. has no such dream like Abe's.

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“The unyielding Chinese people fought gallantly and finally won total victory against the Japanese militarist aggressors, thus preserving China’s 5,000-year-old civilisation and upholding the cause of peace,” Xi said.

The unyielding Chinese government has also ordered all residents of Beijing to stay indoors and not look out of their windows while the parade's going on, thus preserving China's post-1949 totalitarian grip over the people, Xi conveniently didn't say.

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@ JerseyBoy - your comments, like mine probably, seem to upset folks here, yet your comments are the most balanced. Those favoring Japan should reflect deeply about Japan's acts of aggression that led to up to 50 million innocent victims and about Japan's constant insults against those victims even 70 years later (Yasukuni, whitewashing, excuses).

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The Chinese soldiers can do a very nice goose-step and they also have those cool Nazi style helmets.

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china sending mixed messages, its a peace and military parade, doves and weapons were shown, celebrates cause for peace but also restricted its citizens like fascist japan. its no wonder the western world feels more anxiety and stayed away

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@jerseyboy SEP. 03, 2015 - 01:13PM JST

Mitsuo -- actually it's more like a nightmare, as the estimates are that nearly 20 million Chinese perished during Japan's rule. And while I am no huge fan of China's, I find all the "hating" by folks here on JT very hypocritical.

And you know what's the worst part about the nightmare - the part the Chinese are very loathe to admit?

They could actually have avoided over 99% of those deaths if Chiang Kai-shek had taken the decision to stay cool at Marco Polo Bridge and not send 4 more divisions when there were ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND of them (just ground forces) versus 5600 Japanese in region.

And he might have done so if the Communist Party had not arranged his kidnapping and made him at least verbally agree to unite against the Japanese. And the Communist Party of course had less than virtuous motives in all this. Without the Sino-Japanese War, they would have lost. So, to win their little Civil War, they prodded Chiang Kai-shek into starting a war the Chinese could not win.

Not that the Chinese people themselves were raving for war - poorly educated peasants who are learning to stand together, but not learning enough to realize they aren't ready to do so.

And they didn't - Japanese were said to be advancing in China even on the last day of the war.

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KS: So, to win their little Civil War, they prodded Chiang Kai-shek into starting a war the Chinese could not win.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Polo_Bridge_Incident

One far-right Japanese historian has alleged that the incident was staged by the Chinese Communist Party, who hoped that the incident would lead to a war of attrition between the Japanese army and the Kuomintang (Guomingdang).[10]

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Wow...nice twisted version of world history.

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jerseyboySep. 03, 2015 - 01:13PM JST

actually it's more like a nightmare, as the estimates are that nearly 20 million Chinese perished during Japan's rule.

Psst, jerseyboy you need to renew your Propaganda book the number has been inflated to 35 million in 1995. The original number estimated by ROC right after the war was under 5 million by the way.

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@turbostat: Indeed, there is a minority (among historians; among uyoku it's more popular) view in Japan about it being a Communist plot.

However, I don't think that's a major part of the calculation, since neither side (Chinese-Nationalist or Japanese) could have known that. What they are expected to know is what Japanese mention and Chinese (and the West) tend to try to mokusatsu - that it was Chinese soldier(s) that fired first at the Japanese. Whether it was a Commie plot or an accident does not change this fact.

When the start of the incident changes from that "missing soldier" to Chinese troops shooting first, the Japanese demands for them to retreat beyond the river and punish the responsible take on a whole new meaning. Since the Chinese troops are at fault, clearly a concession of one sort or another is to be expected. This is not something that's obvious, and would even appear to be Japanese intrasignence, when the start is the "missing soldier".

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I am sure it's hard to swallow for those used to the status quo, but the world domination/policing of America and its wishful attempts to suppress/contain China are no more and crumbling so rapidly. Even the CNN guest commentator during the parade today agreed that China (even with less war experience and less war-infused mentality such as the U.S. forces) would be unpredictably or insurmountly hard to defeat in any military scenario, not to mention China's other options that are superbly and quickly matching or surpassing U.S.' domination in other military capabilities.

Ha ha.. bet the parade and mini show of force by China today sure pulled Abe and his cronies also back from his wet dream (to confront/match China) to reality. One has to wonder what China didn't show today (it was said the parade today displayed like only 2%?? of China's massive arsenal). Even the U.S. has no such dream like Abe's.

I rather suspect you have a red banner flying overhead and the sound of goose stepping soldiers in your ears as you type your little missive straight from the Ministry of Propaganda. You really do sound like a government sponsored news reader on Chinese TV. Well done you :)

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"Leaders of major Western countries have stayed away from the parade" quoted from above.

They did not invite Russian president Putin to the two most recent G8 summits even though Russia is a member of G8. They are boycotting Russia over the crisis in Crimea, Ukraine. The leaders of major Western countries are staying away from China's military parade mainly because Russian president Putin is the guest of honor.

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This is politics. Nobody is obliged to make sense.

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China celebrating its "victory over Japan". The irony is that they wouldn't had a victory if it wasn't for US interference. With massive military hardware show-offs like this anyone who still claims that China is interested in a peaceful future must be blind. And all the while thousands of naive students protest in Japan because Abe wants to loosen the constitution. Laughable! Go look at China instead. That's where you real worry should be focused on.

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Japan should celebrate this too, as it eventually helped end their Nazi era. The only people who are upset about this are those who wish to return to those times.

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This is a peace parade unlike you people claimed like a "Chinelander uber allies in der welt 2015!"

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CGB Spender China celebrating its "victory over Japan". The irony is that they wouldn't had a victory if it wasn't for US interference.

OK may be you can explain me why Japan till now occupied by US Army ? 70 years AFTER WW2?? This is not much more strange situation ?

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nigelboySEP. 03, 2015 - 01:24PM JST

Do I see a solution here? If China can celebrate every September 3rd like it's "1999", will China stop whining about Yasukuni?

China will stop whining about Yasukuni if china can do to Japan what Japan did to China 70 years ago. After that China will built it's own Yakusuni. After all building shrine to commemorate dead people soul is a old Chinese tradition for more than 2000 years.

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Hey jerseyboy,, you're being critical of Japan in a forum filled with Japaophiles. No wonder you're getting negative likes.. As you I too am no huge fan of China.. Nor am I a huge fan of Japan's media generated month of self-pity every August. If one didn't know any better and all you knew of WWII was what you learned from Japan's media in August .. Not only would you get the impression that Japan was a victim of the war but that she was the only victim....

Akuma -- Absolutely. 100% spot on. Juast go to the museum at Yasukuni and you'll learn the "real" history of Japan's involvement in WWII.

@ JerseyBoy - your comments, like mine probably, seem to upset folks here, yet your comments are the most balanced. Those favoring Japan should reflect deeply about Japan's acts of aggression that led to up to 50 million innocent victims and about Japan's constant insults against those victims even 70 years later (Yasukuni, whitewashing, excuses).

Ringman2 -- Thanks. But we both know we are spitting in the wind. Japanese are famous now for sticking their collective heads in the sand and wishing things would just be different/better. And facing up to the history of WWII is just another in a long list of things that will never be truly addressed.

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Japan should celebrate this too, as it eventually helped end their Nazi era. The only people who are upset about this are those who wish to return to those times.

Bollox... any normal thinking person would think this display of weaponry and military might was aimed at the outside world, showing how 'powerful' they still are. This mass parade of hardware was not about commemorating the end of the war, it was about power, pure and simple.

And Communist China didn't defeat Imperial Japan, the same as the Soviet Union didn't defeat Nazi Germany: it was a combined effort by the Allies. Talk about rewriting history...

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In a speech at the parade, Xi lauded his country as a major power and a force for world peace.

"The unyielding Chinese people fought gallantly and finally won total victory against the Japanese militarist aggressors, thus preserving China's 5,000-year-old civilisation and upholding the cause of peace," he said.

Xi described the eight-year conflict as "a decisive battle between justice and evil, between light and darkness" and said the victory had "re-established China as a major country in the world".

Guess Abe and cabinet didn't like some of those comments made in the speech marking the 70 yrs.

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Guess Abe and cabinet didn't like some of those comments made in the speech marking the 70 yrs.

Don't think anyone outside of China and its allies liked it TBH... We have a phrase in my part of Scotland for when such twaddle is uttered - he's talking mince!

I love how a country with THAT level of military power claims that it fears Japan's military build up. Really? Even cutting 300,000 troops still gives you an army of 2 million. Think about that... that's more the entire population of some countries. 2 million troops... and they think Japan is a military threat?

Piffle!

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These ludicrous parades, shop window showcase displays of all the latest military hardware, just underline the obsolete nature of humanity obsession with the theory of war.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki put the kibosh on the pursuit of 'world domination'. On the launch of the first ballistic missile, it is game over for all life on earth, the ensuing thermo nuclear war will be the decisive end game, everything you are, were or could have been consigned to 150 million tons of radioactive smoke within 45 minutes tops.

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Kazuaki Shimazaki: When the start of the incident changes from that "missing soldier" to Chinese troops shooting first, the Japanese demands for them to retreat beyond the river and punish the responsible take on a whole new meaning.

http://www.britannica.com/event/Marco-Polo-Bridge-Incident

On the night of July 7, 1937, a small Japanese force on maneuvers near the Marco Polo Bridge demanded entry to the tiny walled town of Wanping in order to search for one of their soldiers. The Chinese garrison in the town refused the Japanese entry; a shot was heard, and the two sides began firing.

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Funny, I cannot remember what took place on the 60th anniversary. Nor the 50th. Nor...

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President Xi Jinping oversaw the event, riding in a black car past thousands of troops and hundreds of tanks and missiles ahead of a parade through Tiananmen Square.

Meets new China.

Leaders of major Western countries have stayed away from the parade

1 EU leaders are too busy today - flow of migrants...

2 They are afraid

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"The unyielding Chinese people fought gallantly and finally won total victory against the Japanese militarist aggressors, thus preserving China's 5,000-year-old civilisation and upholding the cause of peace," he said.

Except for the inconvenient fact that Communist forces at that time were nothing more than bandits hiding in the bushes while Japan was literally kicking KMT in the XXXX. It was so bad that Chiang Kai Shek wanted to work a cease fire agreement but the rest of the Allied members told him to stop whining and fight on.

Psst, jerseyboy you need to renew your Propaganda book the number has been inflated to 35 million in 1995. The original number estimated by ROC right after the war was under 5 million by the way.

And people like jerseyboy use the 20 million without even considering that such figures would equate to over 200K deaths every month which makes even a bloated Nanking incident figures look tame.

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There are so many world conflicts and problems and these clowns have nothing better to do than to celebrate the peace with a military parade. They only talk about the past and forget what is happening now. Nobody seems to be interesieren in Syria and IS. Probably is not profitable.

A sad recent case : http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/02/shocking-image-of-drowned-syrian-boy-shows-tragic-plight-of-refugees

Where is the UN ??? Where is the help ??? Ludicrous!!

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It's rather ironic that the unelected Chinese dictators celebrate their "victory" over Japan whilst standing above a portrait of mass murderer Mao, a man who killed far more Chinese than the Japanese ever did. If only they had a correct understanding of history ...

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What?

AKB48 & SMAP SMAP weren't invited to the Parade?

Come on China, catch up to modern times!

Oh Yea, they're still stuck in WORLD WAR 2 !!

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Nobody cares about who win or loose. both japan and china ignored Father God. i am on Selfless compassionate jesus christ side. Who cares who wins!loosers are more blessed jesus said. Why is fame so important?love conquers all. Pray for each other Salvation. Love one another! encourage each other build each other up. Life is too short. God instructed humanity to generously look after each other all over earth, like God gave us water, food, energy, life, nature, oxygen for free. Make peace Harmony with world. This earth deserve Full of thankful smiles. jesus paid our sin. Shalom shabat. May Peace, love, forgiving spirits be with you.

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China can do whatever they want in their country.

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The chinese act like clowns

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Olegek: "OK may be you can explain me why Japan till now occupied by US Army ? 70 years AFTER WW2?? This is not much more strange situation ?"

Japan isn't occupied by the US. How is your sentence relevant to the fact that the US intervention had a big impact on ending the war? Your sentence doesn't make much sense in this context.
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CGB Spender"Japan isn't occupied by the US."

A sovereign country creates and supports national Armed and Naval forces. An occupied country gives a territory for Armed and Naval forces of foreign country and pays/supports them. There are no US bases in China, India, Iran or Russia.

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yamashiSep. 04, 2015 - 12:16PM JST

So I guess Britain, Germany, Italy, Turkey, etc. are all occupied then.

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Chinese just announced reduction in the military by 300,000..... perhaps now America should disarm its weapons of mass distruction and call home the troops it has overseas. Some 50,000 in Japan!

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TheTiger

300,000 out of 2,300,000.

It's a great start, but not a cause for dancing in the streets....

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Communist China is only 66 years old and they are celebrating a 70 year anniversary in the win against the Japanese? Commy China didn't event participate in the war, they are so full of shit.

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CGB Spender Japan isn't occupied by the US.

Germany also not. They are 100 % independent. Only under full military and political control. For democracy sake.

Germany&Japan - high industrialised, overpopulated, rich nations. They can protect themselves. They did not like US bases , but they have no choice..

No occupation , freedom for all, but you can't remove US bases - this option is not available in this version of freedom may be in the next version...

So US fought to give freedom fo German and Japanese or to enslave these nations forever ??

How is your sentence relevant to the fact that the US intervention had a big impact on ending the war?

That fact, that China celebrates victory after loosing 35 millions compatriots without special bowing toward US - very strange for you. Exactly?

For me it's very strange that US totally ignore this event.

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Olegek: For me it's very strange that US totally ignore this event.

Well, 40 years of rhetoric about "running dog capitalists" might have something do to with it.

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