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China’s behavior and comments are more like a spoiled and jealous child than a sovereign country. It really needs to be more professional on the international political stage.

51 ( +57 / -6 )

Jeez, people have a right to pay their respect

50 ( +56 / -6 )

Tell China's Foreign Ministry that his complain will be politely ignored.

44 ( +49 / -5 )

Communist China can stick it.

Japan, as a sovereign nation, is entitled to invite anyone into the nation as they see fit. Lai-San was paying his respects to someone important - a custom the commies wouldn't understand.

China is clearly worried that the Taiwanese admire and respect Japan, and think the opposite of them. We stand with free, beautiful Taiwan - just as PM Abe always did.

34 ( +44 / -10 )

"This a Japanese internal matter and China is exhibiting offensive and completely unacceptable interference in the affairs of another sovereign state."

39 ( +44 / -5 )

over reaction?

27 ( +32 / -5 )

China, please just shut up for once. Not everything done in Asia is related to you.

46 ( +51 / -5 )

Fighto!

Today 07:12 am JST

Communist China can stick it.

Japan, as a sovereign nation, is entitled to invite anyone into the nation as they see fit. Lai-San was paying his respects to someone important - a custom the commies wouldn't understand.

China is clearly worried that the Taiwanese admire and respect Japan, and think the opposite of them. We stand with free, beautiful Taiwan - just as PM Abe always did.

Because America does too. Without America having his back PM Abe wouldn't have had the guts.

-32 ( +8 / -40 )

@fighto

Tokyo broke official ties with Taipei in 1972 and forged ties with Beijing

"We stand with free beautiful Taiwan"

Fighto you just don't understand do you ! !

-25 ( +7 / -32 )

Lai visited Japan in what a Japanese official described as a private visit to pay his respects as a friend of Abe's,

Sounds similar to the excuses that Abe and other PM's have used when visiting Yasukuni.

-24 ( +9 / -33 )

Dear China, you know I love you, but anyone has the right to go to Japan, pay tribute and respects at Abe Sama's funeral..

Sorry, no bonus..

China’s behavior and comments are more like a spoiled and jealous child than a sovereign country. It really needs to be more professional on the international political stage.

Exactly identical to the behavior of the US

LOL..

-38 ( +3 / -41 )

China is a pathetic crybaby.

36 ( +45 / -9 )

Because America does too. Without America having his back PM Abe wouldn't have had the guts.

What's the point? US and Japan are allies.

Just as China has North Korea's back.

You think North Korea would be saying the things they do to the US, if China didn't have their back.

The Kim dynasty would be wiped out in a heartbeat.

22 ( +28 / -6 )

Being that China's one China policy is officially recognized but Taiwans independence isn't recognized ,China is making sure Lai's visit to Abe's funeral isn't an official visit from the one China.

That's why its clarification as a personal visit has happened

The close ties that are between Japan and Taiwan are more to do with the fact that Japan had invaded and colonized the Republic of Samosa for 50 years and the Japanese blood line became intermingled with Taiwanese.

Many Japanese families still live in Taiwan.

Taiwan was recognized as an independent country at one time but thanks to the USA and Japan it isnt anymore.

Japanese are so hypocritical of this fact !

-30 ( +3 / -33 )

But he was just visiting as a "private citizen" just as Abe does when he visited Yasukuni.

So what's the complaint about? Arent private citizens allowed freedom to come and go as they please?

20 ( +25 / -5 )

Focus should be on Abe and his legacy, not who attends the funeral. China sounds like a rude and obnoxious relative or friend that shows up to a funeral uninvited and complains about the food.

21 ( +26 / -5 )

Commenters are too focused on hate towards China or China phobic.

It should be understandable that clarification by the official government of China was necessary.

Iam not fond of China but atleast i understand.

-36 ( +2 / -38 )

If it’s a private visit to a leading cult member who was facing corruption charges, it’s his own business. If it was an official visit that would be wrong, but nobody has a right to tell you what you can do in your private life.

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Lai visited Japan in what a Japanese official described as a private visit to pay his respects as a friend of Abe's,

Sounds similar to the excuses that Abe and other PM's have used when visiting Yasukuni.

Yeah, and such excuses and considerations are unnecessary or meaningless, for Beijing always complains no matter what, like a broken radio.

16 ( +20 / -4 )

Maybe it is time Japan officially recognizes Taiwan and stops dancing around the issue.

14 ( +23 / -9 )

So what's the complaint about? Arent private citizens allowed freedom to come and go as they please?

They don't even know the freedom of human mobility at home. No wonder they have easily and arbitrarily imposed lockdowns on their citizens (and mostly failed to eliminate covid).

They may also envy the Taiwanese citizens who can travel across more countries without visas than their PRC counterparts despite Taiwan's limited diplomatic ties.

19 ( +22 / -3 )

What the world needs now is a lot less China.

24 ( +28 / -4 )

As China said. What Vice President?

2 ( +10 / -8 )

Communist China can stick it.

Damn straight

19 ( +28 / -9 )

Dear China, you know I love you,

they don't know and don't care

15 ( +21 / -6 )

China complains

don’t they have better things to do?

Like cleaning up the air pollution or eliminating corona? Just a couple of things that come to mind………

21 ( +26 / -5 )

On the one hand China are saying Taiwan doesn’t have a Vice President. On the other, they are complaining that the Vice President attended… cannot have your cake and eat it!

23 ( +26 / -3 )

""as a private visit to pay his respects as a friend of a FRIEND"

China needs to take a chill pill.

19 ( +22 / -3 )

Because America does too. Without America having his back PM Abe wouldn't have had the guts.

How do you know? Where is the proof?

7 ( +13 / -6 )

Screw China. They have no right to complain.

20 ( +25 / -5 )

What a sad response. I guess they are not allowed to reply with empathy or anything but the approved childish line.

17 ( +19 / -2 )

China's president can't even leave the country. Maybe he's jealous. It seems like anything will set China off nowadays. It's worse than dealing with a jealous wife.

16 ( +18 / -2 )

How dare she?!? How dare anyone do anything anywhere on the planet without China's approval? Oh, and also all Winnie the Pooh films and merchandise should be banned globally. Anyone caught with such offensive materials should face a steep fine, jail, or both.

21 ( +22 / -1 )

Really? China first offers their condolences and then goes on the attack mode because Japan allowed Taiwan to send a top rank official to offer his own condolences on behalf of his “country”?

16 ( +17 / -1 )

China please stop it. You are starting to look like a spoilt little kid.

Why didn't you visit in person to pay your respects?

20 ( +22 / -2 )

Oh shut up, China. Get back to making pancake spatulas for Walmart.

21 ( +25 / -4 )

"China complains"

Yes, that's all the Crying Commie Party does anymore.

18 ( +21 / -3 )

China’s ridiculousness on full display.

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virusrexToday  08:08 am JST

Maybe it is time Japan officially recognizes Taiwan and stops dancing around the issue.

Unless China changes it's ways (which is unlikely) the writing is on the wall that the US, and all allies including Japan will eventually recognize Taiwan. But that requires a full defensive readiness on Taiwan's part and a declaration of sovereignty. Which domestically will require a constitutional change in Taiwan. Then there is the issue of UN recognition that China and Russia will obstruct.

So why don't you stop repeating this stupidly over simplified comment?

2 ( +10 / -8 )

Childish childish childish. One of this days this chilnese fools will all die and I guess they don't want anybody to pay their respect.

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Hope that falls on deaf ears.

I have said it before, China is diplomatically immature.

If a politician or anyone else from another country wants to pay their respects then show some respect China and allow them to. Period.

Japan should make a ‘stern representation’ back to China about this….”Our nation is in mourning so please show some more respect and refrain from any political interference…”

20 ( +21 / -1 )

Maybe its time Japan officially recognizes Taiwan and stops dancing around the issue

Perhaps after Japan has changed it's war renouncing constitution because China might perceive that as a threat

The USA doesn't officially recognize Taiwan either and neither does the united nations.

Would the USA military still protect Japan if Japan recognized Taiwanese independence ?

Taiwan hasn't officially declared it's independence anyway .

So i doubt Japan will recognize Taiwan independence anytime soon.

Never know tho .

-15 ( +2 / -17 )

The darned Chinese sure like to whine and cry and stomp their feet. For such an old civilization as they love to remind everyone they sure act like a bunch of immature crybabies. Someone put a binky in Baby Ping Ping's pie hole.

18 ( +18 / -0 )

No one likes the kid on the playground that tries to tell everyone else what to do.

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EdwardCanadaToday  07:41 am JST

"Because America does too. Without America having his back PM Abe wouldn't have had the guts."

What's the point? US and Japan are allies.

Just as China has North Korea's back.

You think North Korea would be saying the things they do to the US, if China didn't have their back.

That makes Japan sound a bit like North Korea.

Takaaki OishiToday  08:38 am JST

How do you know? Where is the proof?

I don't, really. That's just the impression I got of his character. He'd talk big but not deliver very much for anyone when it really mattered.

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Who cares what you think, China. We are people who pay our respects. Keep your politics to yourself.

11 ( +12 / -1 )

We stand with free, beautiful Taiwan - just as PM Abe always did.

Why didn't Abe officially recognize Taiwan as a country? Why doesn't Japan then?

-9 ( +2 / -11 )

William Lai is very likely to be the next ROC President.

4 ( +5 / -1 )

This daily back and forth is getting a bit dull isn’t it? The free world denounces another immature, inappropriate and awkward Chinese attempt at stamping it’s foreign policy unto the region, everyone reacts because it’s so easy too. ( Go JT!) Then we get schooled by the “Yeah but America is bad” pseudo historians propaganda narrative where Imperial Japan inevitably gets conjured to justify another warped higher sense of morality. Low resolution, one pattern, loop, sleep, repeat.

Round and round we go. Ossan is right too, , the ‘just recognize Taiwan already’ instinct is also an over simplified argument that doesn’t take into consideration the complexities of the giant chess game going real time. Lot of stars have to line up before that happens, thanks for always pointing out the adult details!

AustPaul made a good point.

Japan should make a ‘stern representation’ back to China about this….”Our nation is in mourning so please show some more respect and refrain from any political interference…”

Agree it would be good to eventually hear something other than ‘ zannen’ as a response to Chinas belligerence towards Japan, but I guess it’s their way of staying dignified in a difficult time. What sort of fool makes smarmy statements to someone at a funeral? Think about it? Could you imagine someone acting like that at someone’s wake? What would happen?

At some point though it will be time. A statement like the one offered above by AustPaul would be an absolute ippon. You don’t need to get overly aggressive, just put it in a simple plain language that everyone understands. Then sit back and watch the aggressive behavior backfire. You can do a lot with one well worded and well timed no nonsense statement.

Heres an actual question good people. What stops Japan from reacting in a more stern and committed manner? When does one jump OFF the fence? What are the reasons for holding back so much, I’m sure a bit of a response would resonate with the Japanese people and voters. I certainly know it would resonate with the readers in here. Is it the ‘don’t throw fuel on the fire’ approach? Sorry for the long winded. An actual discussion would be nice, get out of the sandpit for a bit.

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Time to isolate China from the rest of the world until the CCP is dead and buried. Japan should just tell the CCP where to go.

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China should grow up. The man was visiting to pay respects, not to declare sovereignty. They should see it as a symbol of humanity, not borders.

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Being that China's one China policy is officially recognized

wink, wink, nod, nod. It is only recognized as long as it isn't causing problems. China has been causing more and more problems towards Taiwan around the world. This type of stuff is just petty.

Chinese mandates at sporting events to prevent free speech posters from being shown, thus embarrassing the CCP, are another example. Then, after people exercising their free speech at an event outside China are escorted out of the sports arena, the state Chinese news will show the "white" security people escorting the Asians out and claim there is racism, thought it was China which mandated no anti-CCP signs be allowed in any sporting venue.

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It must be difficult for a country like China that has total control over their citizens, through oppression and censorship, to not be able to control the world outside its borders.

Typical neurotic ocd mentality.

14 ( +14 / -0 )

Taiwan represents how great China and its people could have been had it not gone communist. Time to officially recognize Taiwan as what it is and has been, an independent country. The CCCP is an enemy to its own people and the world.

12 ( +12 / -0 )

Taiwan represents how great China and its people could have been had it not gone communist.

It has less to do with the system than the characteristics of the people. See following comment

Typical neurotic ocd mentality

This and according to the personal accounts by family members of Desert Tortoise.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

China's Foreign Ministry said on Tuesday its embassy in Japan had lodged "stern representations" with the government there about Taiwan Vice President William Lai attending the funeral of former Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe.

Thankfully this has nothing to do with China, and Japan can simply say so to the Chinese embassy.

What happens in Japan is a matter for Japan, and China should not concern itself with funerals or attendees that occur in Japan.

China just is unable to mind it's own business. The Chinese ambassador needs to be dressed down for his impertinence.

4 ( +5 / -1 )

Pooh Bear's sad someone else got attention instead of him. What a loser.

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This sort of thing makes Xi look small.

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What an incredibly sensitive sense of timing China has.

Japan is honoring and laying to rest its longest-serving prime minister just a few days after he was shockingly assassinated ... and China has to come out with this petty childishness.

Japan can hosts whoever it wants in this sort of situation.

Your job, China, is to just shut the hell up for once.

4 ( +4 / -0 )

China? What do you mean? The only real China is Taiwan. The so called "PRC" is a rogue state under CCP and PLA control.

4 ( +4 / -0 )

Why didn't Abe officially recognize Taiwan as a country? Why doesn't Japan then?

Taiwan doesn't want it. Declaring independence only invites an immediate Chinese attack and the US might not come to their defense under those circumstances. The unwritten rules of the status quo are that Taiwan doesn't declare independence and the US agrees that were China to attack them unprovoked the US will come to their defense. But if Taiwan declares independence they are probably on their own. For Japan or any other economically important nation to start calling Taiwan an independent nation could make the situation very difficult for Taiwan. Taiwan's friends will not do that to her. The status quo along with the vague but really not so vague threat to defend Taiwan from an unprovoked Chinese attack are the best course of action. The CCP will not last forever and if the west remains united behind Taiwan we will very likely see the government of Taiwan outlast the CCP.

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Pooh Bear's sad someone else got attention instead of him. What a loser.

Won't be a lot of tears shed when Baby Ping Ping buys the farm. Any nations who bother will probably send low level diplomats to his funeral, if it is even public.

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William Lai,l why do lots of Chinese take an Anglo name,that is not officially on a government document

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

@Kyo wa heiwa dayo ne You never seem to amaze me! You would make a very good comedy writer!!

**You wrote ** "Fighto you just don't understand do you" ! ! Look at how many times you have been thumbed down here with your comical comments. I don't think anyone understands your satire. I get it you love to write! LOL

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Leave it up to the PRC to make everything about them. A man was just assassinated FFS and all they can think about is their sovereignty. SMH.

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William Lai,l why do lots of Chinese take an Anglo name,that is not officially on a government document

Because Chinese names are hard for most non-Chinese speakers to pronounce.

Do you think even anchors can pronounce Lai Ching-te correctly?

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