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China instructs fishermen to stay clear of Senkakus

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The Chinese regime does not need a conflagration with Japan while cracking down on Hong Kong.

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When Tanaka normalized relations with China the two countries agreed to shelve the question of ownership of the Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands and there was no problem at all until the American Heritage Foundation and Ishihara decided to create one.

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Then Japan administered the islands as part of Taiwan.

This is not true; they were administered as part of Okinawa; specifically, Yaeyama-gun, which includes Ishigaki and the rest of the islands that surround it. Yonaguni island, to the west of all these islands including the Senkakus, was and is a separate municipality.

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There was never any dispute,

History shows that the Senkakus Islands have always belonged to the Japanese people!

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@ Norman Goodman

I wonder why people argue with that. After the Sino-Japanese war of 1894-1895 , China ( Qing ) ceded Taiwan " and its outlying/ nearby Islands " to Japan . This sentence leaves no doubt about the original ownership of Diaoyu/ Senkaku Islands.

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But the Japanese government is one of the premier hypocrites of planet Earth, so I am not holding my breath.

Really?  Could you please point out any governments that are not as, or were less hypocritical than the Japanese government? Definitely not the US, China impossible, Russia scares me, and most EU countries don’t even try to speak the truth.

 

The three points you listed, I also agree with them.  But the point is, under rightful international law, whether there were no agreements between Japan and China, they belong to Japan as they took the right steps to claim them.  AND this was way before WWII.  There are no, and should be no disputes.

The Japanese government being hypocritical and ignoring Chinese claims but pressing claims on Kuriles and Dokdo, is just natural.  They are just trying to bring maximum benefits to their own country, just like all their neighboring governments are doing so too.

On the other hand, I am starting to feel sorry against the SK people, as Moon (or the SK government) is now way past being hypocritical, and quite lost in how to bring benefits to their own country.  It seems like it is all about pride and emotion, and forgetting about being rational or logical. (Although this has nothing to do with then topic here)

 

I am surprised that, despite your knowledge and details about this issue, your opinion against Japan is quite biased.  As I would assume you have many historical knowledge on many countries and how hypocritical they were.  Is there a personal reason why you are being harsher against Japan than the others?

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Just to say "everyone agrees" shows who logic has failed here. There is no agreement about any of the island issues or they would be resolved by now.

LOL! That is all you got! Even Russia acknowledges that those islands were originally belonging to Japan including you, and Russia offered to give some of them back.

When both parties agree that something is true then that is everyone agreeing.

Your job is to prove that people don't agree that the Kuril and Dokdo islands didn't originally belong to Japan.

It still doesn't distract with your faulty logic in comparing the Senkaku issue.

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Everyone agrees that those are Japanese islands that were taken doing WWII. Japan just wants them back.

Just to say "everyone agrees" shows who logic has failed here. There is no agreement about any of the island issues or they would be resolved by now.

Three things about the Senkakus 1) Japan held off on taking them in 1885 and waited ten years to do so specifically because it knew China would object. Why would China have objected to Japan "taking" its own territory? Makes no sense. At the very least Japan knew it was an agreed upon no man's land. 2) After Japan took Taiwan only then did it take the Senkakus. Then Japan administered the islands as part of Taiwan. So even Japan thought the islands went with Taiwan. 3) Japan herself used the Chinese name Diaoyu for the islands until 1900, when the name Senkaku was invented.

I am totally prepared to admit the Senkakus were fairly taken by right of military occupation if the Japanese government does the same for the Kuriles and Dokdo. But the Japanese government is one of the premier hypocrites of planet Earth, so I am not holding my breath.

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"No. This just means that China recognizes that there is a dispute. China will continue to press its claim the same as Japan keeps pressing claims to the Kuriles and Dokdo. "

You don't even "deserve" an answer.

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Japan,

Look at our relationship with S. Korea. The country who suffered no massacres, suffered no unit 731, no bombs drop on Koreans,we paid them compensation, we gave them dozens of apologies, yet we have better relations with China than S.korea

Korea both sides North and South are equally toxic for Japan! Unreliable! Can't keep a promise/agreement.

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China has instructed its fishermen to stay away from waters surrounding the disputed Senkaku Islands,

Too bad the instructions don't apply to their warships.

Japan had better begin asserting the islands as their own. Otherwise, through passivity on the part of Japan, China will claim the Senkakus. Will Japan will be comfortable with a Chinese military outpost close to the Ryukyu Islands and Okinawa?

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@Norman

No. This just means that China recognizes that there is a dispute. China will continue to press its claim the same as Japan keeps pressing claims to the Kuriles and Dokdo. And the hypocrite of the month award goes to......

False equivalency! Russia never claimed that the Kuriles and Dokdo islands were always their property based on some ancient text propaganda. Everyone agrees that those are Japanese islands that were taken doing WWII. Japan just wants them back. Apples and Oranges!

According to Lee Seokwoo, the People's Republic of China (PRC) started taking up the question of sovereignty over the islands in the latter half of 1970 when evidence relating to the existence of oil reserves surfaced.

He concluded "... Accordingly, and having regard to the various factual and legal issues explored above, one is inclined to conclude that Japan has a stronger claim to the disputed islands. In other words, the critical date in this case should be February 1971 (in the case of Taiwan) and December 1971 (in the case of China), as claimed by Japan. This is the more so that historical evidence relating to territorial disputes does not have its own value as history alone, but should be evaluated within the framework of international law on territorial acquisition and loss."

Logic is failing you!

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You don't need any clearer affirmation of Japan's sovereign rights over the Senkakus!!!

No. This just means that China recognizes that there is a dispute. China will continue to press its claim the same as Japan keeps pressing claims to the Kuriles and Dokdo. And the hypocrite of the month award goes to......

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The fishing boats will be back after Xi's plane departs Tokyo.

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Be careful when China smiles.

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You don't need any clearer affirmation of Japan's sovereign rights over the Senkakus!!!

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Better than provocative actions.

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Meaning that all along the Chinese government knew very well that it's fishermen were in disputed waters.

How nice of them to have them stop!

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