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China, Japan blame each other for jet encounter

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A previous article noted that, "Chinese SU-27 jets flew just 30 meters away from its aircraft in a spot where the two countries’ air defense zones overlap."

So... who was in whose zone? Is this China's recent, unilaterally declared zone that is rejected by everyone else, or is this in the old, established zone? If it's in the old zone, we should be able to get satellite footage to determine who was in the wrong.

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What China doesn't tell you is that they are doing the same thing as Japan. The incident probably happened in airspace where the two countries' ADIZ overlaps. Recently, Japan's OP-3C surveillance plane of the MSDF was approached closely by a Chinese fighter jet in East China Sea. Another Chinese fighter flew close to a YS-11EB plane of the ASDF in the same airspace. The jets were identified as Chinese SU-27 fighters. One flew roughly 50 meters from the MSDF aircraft while the other flew as close as 30 meters to the ASDF aircraft. Early last year, a Chinese warship locked its pre-firing radar on a Japanese destroyer in the East China Sea. In November of 2013, China unilaterally established an ADIZ partly overlapping that of Japan above the East China Sea, that Japan, U.S. and International community does not recognize.

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http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/08/world/asia/south-china-sea-drilling/index.html

But China blames Vietnam for forcefully disrupting drilling activities, and demand that it withdraw all vessels from the area, said Yi Xianliang, Deputy Director-General of the Department of Boundary and Ocean Affairs in a press briefing yesterday.

Please read the entire article and you will be the judge.

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“Chinese criticism is irrelevant,” Suga said.

Whoa! Thats pretty harsh. Can't say I disagree, though.

Who really knows the truth when the Communist Party of China is concerned? I could also totally see the PRC engineering this incident to suit their purposes after seeing the effects of video evidence produced by Vietnam.

That being said, this incident happened in Japan's ADIZ, and Japan has every right to intercept unauthorized military flights that come too close to Japanese territory and refuse to standoff.

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As it was in disputed airspace, I would think the side that has faster planes should bear more of the criticism. That being said, China has a history of being reckless.

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Farmboy: good point but neither country is interested in continuously showing the public satellite footage of what truly happening. It would probably result in showing that both sides are guilty of this dangerous cat & mouse game. I'm still amazed at how many commenters are so ready to support going to war, over these disputed territories. It doesn't really matter who you believe is in the right. War would cost each country a far greater lose of life and land, then the whole disputed region. I know anyone can give a thumbs down but will anyone debate my comment?

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After Japan's claims about boats not following other boats with regards to whaling I'm starting to believe China

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War would cost each country a far greater lose of life and land, then the whole disputed region. I know anyone can give a thumbs down but will anyone debate my comment?

I am with you. When we are getting into war, we are risking everything; safety, security, friends and families, financial wealth and your whole life possible potential ahead. It is easy to get into war, but harder to get out. I have lost many friends and families over the stupid wars. I am a fighter for the right cause in humanity, but not for wars. Enough said.

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Check the video below, there are two Japanese f15 jets either side of the China plane, I can't see how Japan can say the China plane flew up the middle of the two Japanese jets. Japan upto it's old "we are the victim" tricks again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS1vw8Svk0Q

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Shinsaku.ai said China has a history of being reckless but what is the word to describe Japanese soldiers committed atrocities in China during WW 2? To revenge Japanese committed atrocities during war, China now should be waiting patiently for the first shot from Jap.

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'the two countries’ air defense zones overlap'

What? If Japan declare U.S continent is mine then there come to be 'over lap claim zone'? To editor, I demand there's happen no mistake such a incorrect depiction again.

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Are we sure we want Japan to change its constitution to allow offensive action? I have no doubt that if the constitution was changed the Japanese military would fire on these jets. As it is now it is only a bit of tit-for-tat squabbling, but that would change very quickly with one push of a little red button.

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@Disillusioned

Are we sure we want Japan to change its constitution to allow offensive action? I have no doubt that if the constitution was changed the Japanese military would fire on these jets. As it is now it is only a bit of tit-for-tat squabbling, but that would change very quickly with one push of a little red button.

That's exactly what I'm afraid of...

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Im not sure changing the constitution would make Japans military more reckless. They are well educated and well trained. They understand the stakes. However I hope China would stop their greedy expansionist policies and let Japan be so they can keep on being the most peaceful country in the world. Xi needs to read a little more from, what was his name, con fu tses writings.

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Ting Zhao,

Really?

Let's assume you're not a troll. Let's assume that you are not an idiot right wing dude in Japan pretending to be a right wing idiot dude in China trying to stir stuff up. You expect people to go and get revenge for a war that finished over 60 years ago? Who are the Chinese to get revenge against? The old Japanese Imperial Army? Most of those people are dead.

Even if you hunted down the living and killed them in their nursing homes... that would be an atrocity. Just like the ones you are wanting to claim revenge for. OR, would you go after the average Japanese citizen? Ones who are sadly unaware of the history that you are upset about. That would be... an atrocity. In either case, would then Japan, by your logic, be entitled to get revenge on China? This could go on forever.

What about the cultural revolution, Tibet, Tienanmen...? People with a better knowledge of history can supply many newer, bigger atrocities committed by the communist government in China. Who will revenge the victims of those?

China is getting aggressive, trying to take from the Philippines, Vietnam and Japan. China is doing now what Japan did in the past. If you chose to object to Japan's past aggression, will you object to China's current aggression?

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China is making everything ridiculously easy to understand these days. If you stand still and China stab you in the back , it will say that it is all your fault for obstruction its practicing kung fu ! because there is no freedom of press in China ,reading its official news is complete waste of time and harmful as well. China even accuses Vietnam for all current troubles in Vietnam 's sea.

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Abe is creating the environment to persuade Japanese why Japan need constitution revision for military action!

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@anbinh China even accuses Vietnam for all current troubles in Vietnam 's sea.

My understanding from using Google translate: http://www.thanhnien.com.vn/pages/20140612/tau-trung-quoc-giat-lui-ve-mui-tau-kiem-ngu-viet-nam-de-an-va-vu-cao.aspx

The article mentioned some new desperate new tricks China's ships adopted now to make some propaganda film. Spraying each others with water canon. Blocking Vietnam's coast guard boat using three ships on both sides, and the ship in the front in reverse gear.. Man, China must be desperate to blame someone, resourcing to Hollywood movies making camera tricks..

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China and Japan don't like each other......We knew this would happen in the late 1980s as Japan became the de facto Asian economic powerhouse challenging the US...unfortunately it became critical at the outset of the first trickles of the the trickle down years and our response to Japan's economic aggressiveness, because we wanted to destroy union labor, was to triple down on outsourcing to China and boy oh boy did we do it right....Look at those Japanese now...yeppers...that'll teach 'em....yeppers..

I recall a Tom Clancy novel during those years about an evil Japanese billionaire who was going to get even with the US for humiliating Japan during WWII.....

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The things always like this. When Japan Govt want to blame China something, Japan always hides something. Last time, when Japan blame China's fighter about this, the senario is China and Russia are on a militory practice.

This time, when Japan blame China's fighter about this, Japan hides that Japan did this also before.

what kind of feature cause this? Can someone explain me about this?

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yosunJun. 13, 2014 - 01:15PM JST Abe is creating the environment to persuade Japanese why Japan need constitution revision for military action!

How does Abe control the Chinese ships that visit the Senkakus every day? Or the Chinese jets that fly too close? How did Abe put the Chinese at odds with the Philippines and Vietnam?

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OssanAmericaJun. 14, 2014 - How does Abe control the Chinese ships that visit the Senkakus every day? Or the Chinese jets that fly too close? How did Abe put the Chinese at odds with the Philippines and Vietnam?

Because pot and kettle can always find each other near by. Philippine and Vietnam are simply two other pot/ kettle,... made of wood~

As to Abe, he's quite a pitiful hero, he's been busy lately, traveling and trying hard all over the world to explain why JP doing this or that however nothing work till date.

One thing all these guys are doing same: they're playing in Taiwan's territory!

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