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Japan will blink first in this game.

-2 ( +18 / -20 )

Hopefully not kurisu. If Japan doesn't take the lead China will push it's way around Asia. What will stop them from being even more aggressive against poorer neighbors.

12 ( +28 / -16 )

From Wikipedia:

"The discovery of potential undersea oil reserves in 1968 in the area was a catalyst for further interest in the disputed islands."

Well now, things become a tad more clear...and a tad more complicated...it ain't just national ego, it's national greed and a significantly more difficult problem...

8 ( +23 / -15 )

Here they come. Slowly, but they are coming. The Red Army is at your door steps. Scary stuff.

15 ( +28 / -13 )

This is death by 1000 cuts, none of which is worth an individual country directly confronting China. However, overall, it amounts to a massive grab of territory that the International Community has jusdged as being completed unjustified and without merit.

Just a little fishing in the wrong place here, just a bit of dredging there. Declaring full controll over the airspace and 'asking' flights to check in when crossing it. And thats not countring the numerous border disputes they have with other neighbours.

Remember when China first starting dredging and creating the islands and thy stated that it was only for maritime radar and rescue operations. It only took a couple of months before they became completely militarised and bristling with missiles.

16 ( +29 / -13 )

Confront them now with more than words

or

confront them later 10 yrs after they've taken over more and more parts of the sea claimed by others.

It isn't a hard choice.

7 ( +21 / -14 )

Japan will blink first in this game.

Seeing as it's mostly Japan being aggressive, this is the best outcome

-21 ( +11 / -32 )

Hey Japan, it isn't in 1937 anymore, this time China can hurt you bad, real bad...

-5 ( +16 / -21 )

Historical facts don't matter any more, the same as with Taiwan. Japan is in great danger, and they just either don't see it, or can't do anything about it. China, after benefiting for decades from stealing Japan's know-how and technologies, and from Japanese investment, is now simply looking for a reason to start wars and occupy other country's territories. It's a shame the communists were allowed permanent UN council seating, as that function was actually though for a democratic China, with the government that exiled to Taiwan.

10 ( +22 / -12 )

sink it. "by mistake". properly apologize. the bully will think twice.

7 ( +19 / -12 )

Japan should blow out of the water any Chinese vessels illegally in Japanese territory and see how they like it.

3 ( +17 / -14 )

If Tokyo truly believes that the isles belongs to Japan then they should built hotels for tourists!

Maybe they could spice it up with a token police or military presence reinforced by a dozen Sumo champions!

If Nippon fails to do this then it’s clear to the whole world that the rocks are indeed disputed territory.

15 ( +17 / -2 )

Nobody will dispute Hainan Island in southern China is China's sovereign territory. So if its sovereignty is threatened or impinged upon by a foreign country, China has right to take all measures "to safeguard" its sovereign territory.

The catch is whether or not that posture of China equally applies to the Senkaku/Diayudao issue. To do so, China must first prove their claim to these islands is factually correct and just. China’s justification of its coast guard ship’s activities in the Senkaku waters is completely wrong and unjustified.  I discussed this point in posts on another thread (cf. “Chinese vessels enter Japan's waters near Senkakus for 2nd straight day” run on Japan Today :Feb. 7).

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Scuba diver here. Make it a marine reserve!!!

-10 ( +5 / -15 )

GoodlucktoyouToday 12:04 pm JST

Scuba diver here. Make it a marine reserve!!!

Like it would matter to a bully.. Despite the fact that I am all in, fellow diver here

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Time to act, not because of that single incident, although severe, no, but because of the bigger systemic impact behind. Look , it’s not only those Senkaku islands that are at stake and daily challenged by the Chinese. The same things happen in Northern Territory, forcing JSDF jets to scramble and defend from Russian intrusion almost every day, with also no real prospect of getting the islands there back anytime soon, even military bases newly constructed and Russian forces deployed there, probably with atomic weapons also, a very well internationally known no-go on whole Japanese ground by the way, and they happen in the Sea of Japan as South Korea also has already taken an island, additionally those North Koren missiles testing , ships and such and not to forget all the fishing boats or fleets from outside in all of the areas shortly around Japanese main islands. It’s better to do something and to stop all of them early in their invasion or even annexation efforts.

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@Sven Asai

The same things happen in Northern Territory, forcing JSDF jets to scramble and defend from Russian intrusion almost every day

No JASDF jet or JMSDF surface ship dare to enter Southern Kuril territorial air and sea space.

I don't know about JMSDF submarines.

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China justifies coast guard's entry into Japan's territorial waters

did we really think they would say otherwise? "oops sorry, we went a bit far, we'll put measures in place to make sure it won't happen again"

china will never apologise, unless someone slaps them hard around the face when they overstep the boundaries.

7 ( +18 / -11 )

It's a shame the communists were allowed permanent UN council seating, as that function was actually though for a democratic China, with the government that exiled to Taiwan.

Japan reals what it sows. That democratic China was busy putting an end to the Communists when Japan attacked. The CCP should be grateful to Japan without which they wouldn’t be in existence.

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China will continue to ratchet up the pressure on Japan over these Islands leaving Japan three options.

1, Do nothing.

2, Take action to seize or sink Chinese ships illegally entering Japanese waters thus giving China a reason to shoot back.

3, Building a military base on the islands forcing China to make the choice to shoot first and dragging the US directly into the issue (which China wants to avoid).

The best option to put the pressure back on China would be option 3.

Having physical control of the islands with weapons stationed on them changes the ball game completely.

14 ( +17 / -3 )

Pardon my ignorance but has this issue been heard at the International Court? Is there an accepted ruling somewhere on the ownership/jurisdiction of these islands?

1 ( +1 / -0 )

What are the loonie Chinese smoking?

Those islands are Japan, not Chinese property.

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AustPaulToday  05:32 pm JST

Pardon my ignorance but has this issue been heard at the International Court? Is there an accepted ruling somewhere on the ownership/jurisdiction of these islands?

This same question was raised 11 years ago right here on JT. The Senkakus are under Japanese administration. Japan considers them sovereign territory. Because it is China that is bringing a claim on territory already under another nation's control, it is up to China to bring a case before the ICJ. Japan is a signatory to the agreement recognzing ICJ jurisdiction and rulings. However, China has refused to follow this seemingly simple approach because China has had and continues to have territorial disputes with many other nations. If China were to accept ICJ jurisdiction, then many nations would take China to the ICJ. Furthermore, following the PCA ruling in Philippines' favor against China in 2016, China has declared that it will not recognize any rulings by International legal forums which infringe on it's sovereignty.

12 ( +12 / -0 )

Mistaken title. "China justifies..." no, sorry.

China attempts to justify, that I could understand.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

Only thing China understands is the language of kicks so do what Indian troops dis in Ladakh then they will run back crying to xi biden

7 ( +7 / -0 )

What international organization solves these disputes? Use that.

Same for the Spratly Islands. Of course, China doesn't want that, since their claims are bogus. Taiwan has more claim to Senkakus than China. And China has effectively ZERO claim on the Spratly islands.

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Okinawan view on Senkakus/Diaoyudaos issue

Some say that the Senkakus/Diaoyudaos were ceded to Japan by China’s Qing dynasty in the Treaty of Shimonoski as a result of the First Sino-Japanese War. They then argue that since Japan accepted in 1945 the terms of unconditional surrender stipulated in the Cairo Declaration after World War II, it should observe these terms and fulfil its obligation.

Japan automatically relinquished claims to Manchuria, Taiwan, Korea, the Pescadores and other islands in the South China Sea and the Pacific. The Ryukyu Islands, including the Senkakus/Diaoyudaos, were stripped from Japan and put under a US trusteeship.

Why weren't the Senkakus/Diaoyudaos returned to China when Taiwan was restored? Apparently, they were not considered spoils of war Japan took by force.

The international community took the post-World War II regime for granted. Even the People’s Republic of China that had assumed power in Beijing in 1949, kept acknowledging the “status quo” until 1971.

In the Jan. 8, 1953, edition of the People’s Daily, an article describeed the island chain stretching between Kyushu and Taiwan — the Ryukyus — and called an island group in question “the Senkaku Islands.”

The article was discovered among Chinese government archives in December 2012 and is reported to describe the Senkakus as part of the Ryukyu Islands, which were a geo-political entity at the time.

The Treaty of Taipei signed on April 28, 1952, stipulates that Japan renounced all rights to Taiwan, Penghu, the Spratly Islands (Nansha Islands, 南沙群島) and the Paracel Islands (Xisha Islands, 西沙群島), over which Japan no longer had any jurisdiction, but it left out the Senkakus/Diaoyudaos.

These documents and historical evidence seem to argue against China's current claim that the Senkakus/Diaoyudaos have been China's sovereign territory since ancient times.

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Hard to understand what the U.S. government said in 1972 when Okinawa was returned to Japan was that, in spite of the fact that it had occupied the Senkaku Islands as part of the Ryukyus and used Kubajima (黄尾嶼)in the Senkakus/Diaoyudaos as a training range for aerial bombing, which remains technically so even today (Note: Ishigaki City is receiving a U.S. base-hosting subsidy from the central government), it said the U.S. had nothing to do with the territorial dispute.

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