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China says it hopes Japan will stay on 'path of peace'

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I was happy to hear that the Tenno reminded the current re-elected government about a peaceful Japan. The current government only reflects the opinion of some parts of the Japanese population. Every step must be undertaken carefully and not mindless confrontation like former Tokyo governor Ishihara San

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Right back at ya China.

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Japan hopes China will get on the path to peace.

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China says it hopes Japan will stay on 'path of peace'

Communist China asking a Democratic state like Japan to stay on a peaceful path all the while Communist China tries to rob everything in the seas and oceans around it! What a freaken hoot!

Communist have always been the same, thieves!

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The whole world hopes China will get on the path to peace.

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It has quite a sense in it. Although China has a lot of military power, yet it does not use it anyhow, Japan starts building it now with the help of U.S. and under the Abe's intentions. Now-a-days countries in Post-industrial state do not need armies. Especially Japan(which is an island(s)).They have way more important things to spend money on. Especially Japan(which is an island).

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Let's just say we all hope ALL countries stay on the path to peace.

JoeBigs:

Communist have always been the same, thieves!

If you think China is communist, you really need to study harder. China is ANYTHING but communist. Mao Zedong would be rolling in his grave if he could see the amount of materialism or capitalism in China today. But don't let that stop you using 'communist' as a mere slur.

And for a 'democratic state', Japan sure has a high voter turn-out, and sure has seen the LDP thrown out of government many times.

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China is as communist as the Democratic Republic of Korea is Democratic.

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@Pukey2: Yeah but China's form of Communism is a lot more dangerous than traditional Stalinist or Maoist Communism, in that it is fairly successful as opposed to recent economic performance in the West and Japan.

There has been loads of talk of the "China Model" of state capitalism and how emerging economies worldwide want to emulate it. However, China's model is only successful with a repressive Communist government like the one in place now. The China model is essentially a hardcore Communist centre with the facade of free market economics, although private companies are banned from almost 200 "strategic" industries completely. The only ones left fight for influence in the Communist party and only those with strong connections can succeed.

In light of this, the worrying thing is that other countries want to copy this economic model, which would essentially mean the spread of repressive governments at a time of Western and Japanese decline. Don't ever kid yourself that China isn't Communist, organise a protest against the government in any city on the mainland and see how quickly you last.

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Daniel NaumoffDec. 26, 2014 - 05:04PM JST

It has quite a sense in it. Although China has a lot of military power, yet it does not use it anyhow

1950 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War

1962 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Indian_War

1969 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_border_conflict

1974 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Paracel_Islands

1979 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War

1988 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_South_Reef_Skirmish

Not to mention, Tiananmen, Tibet, Uyghur,,,

It seems CCP propaganda is effective to you.

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The world Needs bilateral piece for ever and work together for the Improvement of mankind and Climate change Every where

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@ innit

Are you Nigelboy's (wank) sock puppet or what ?

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That “path of peace” begins with the Government of China adopting fully the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations, full demilitarisation, recognising and apologising, paying full compensation to the families of students slaughtered at Tiananmen Square, give Tibetans say in their country by recognising as an independent nation. Democratic elections in HK and cease human rights abuses to it peoples...

Be in no doubt the Chinese government is leading its country to war not with Japan but the United States of America that a change of administration will not tolerate it hegemony, there are hawks in the republican party that see war as inevitable.

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What China really meant was for Japan to stay on the "path of appeasement."

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Well that really depends on you China. Forgive me but I did not bother reading past the headline as anything on this subject from China usually contains more drivel than I can handle on Boxing Day!

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Hard to argue with that statement, except that it seems to be in opposition to the facts. Namely, that it is China that has, lately, been the one threatening its less powerful neighbors, a la Imperial Japan pre 1945. Since 1945, Japan has not threatened its neighbors at all.

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dcog:

Don't ever kid yourself that China isn't Communist, organise a protest against the government in any city on the mainland and see how quickly you last.

I'm sure it was exactly the same as in Nazi Germany, but I don't think they were communists. When the left and right become extreme, they kinda meet each other like a complete circle. What you end up with is a dictatorship with serious human rights problems amongst others. This is not communism specifically (although it's a convenient slur used often by the Yanks), but of extremism. Russia isn't known as a communist country anymore, but it's far from being a democratic, stable country with true freedom.

itsonly rockandroll:

give Tibetans say in their country by recognising as an independent nation.

That'll happen when Okinawa and Hokkaido are given back to the native people. Will you be the ones to send the Wajin packing and the remove all the Han who have settled in Tibet and Xinjiang for generations? While we're at it, how about the Kurds? Hell, why stop there, how about the whole of the Americas?

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maybe China will GET ON the path to peace.

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"If you think China is communist, you really need to study harder. China is ANYTHING but communist. Mao Zedong would be rolling in his grave if he could see the amount of materialism or capitalism in China today. But don't let that stop you using 'communist' as a mere slur."

What was the main opposition party to the Chinese Communist Party again? Oh, that's right, there aren't any opposition parties, they've all been outlawed bu the Communist Party.

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A path of peace can be a bit smoother if China volunteered to rein in North Korean in exchange for Japan maintaining its path of peace.

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I do not think so. Change of constitution,sales of arms, compulsory patriotism at schools, and mutual treaty with US will make war a very likely prospect. Also Japan' stubbornes in returning the islands it took from China will guarantee continued conflict.

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@CH3CHO I think that Daniel meant use their military for raw aggression, like land grabs. None of your examples can be classified as raw aggression, as none were necessarily started by China. Even with the Paracel islands, it can be said Vietnam is just as aggressive and land grabby as China.

I am surprised you did not mention the Invasion of Tibet. But hey, that was over 60 years ago. I personally think its amazing how little aggression China has displayed in relation to so many other countries with large populations. Yet China always conveniently gets accused.

Meanwhile, the sun never sets on American bases and China has a long, long, looooong way to go to catch up to American capabilities. I don't even think the Chinese are on par with Britain or even France as far as capabilities. When was the last time you heard of Chinese military action in Africa, South America, Central America, Europe, North America or Australia? America has been everywhere but Australia, but Japan has been there and even North America. The Chinese? At or around home only. And their current disputes are over tiny pieces of land.

This world is short mirrors and long on pointing fingers. In the last 70 years China has done nothing compared to what Japan did just a few years prior to that. Is that so easy to forget? Well, for the Chinese, its not. Thus the statement this article is concerned with.

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@Pukey2 save it for the next Republican President, at least with Obama one could fall back on a level of left leaning pacifism mixed with a tendency to dither.

The new sheriff in town is prepared to provide the Government of Ukraine $350m of leathal aid, in the last 90 days has hollowed out the Russian economy. About to force regime change with direct sanctions on Russia energy sector knowing that the consequences could be catastrophic for the German economy.

China future can only be secured by the Government taking its own advice embracing the “path of peace”, Japans untimate role will be securing that peace as an honest broker and prevent outright confrontation.

President Xi Jinping similarities in foreign policy echo President Putin in many respects.

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@ tim can

I am surprised you did not mention the Invasion of Tibet. But hey, that was over 60 years ago.

I mean...with that mentality, how do still accuse of Japan for its wrongdoing in WW2...?

It's okay to have a different perspective on historical events, however, nobody appreciates double-standard because it makes your argument totally bogus.

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The tragedy is little has been learnt regionally from past history, either in the classroom or any political establishment. History is just a means to an end, for one a political football, blame without end for the other, what a legacy for my generation to have to face.

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I mean...with that mentality, how do still accuse of Japan for its wrongdoing in WW2...?

It was not meant to be means to an accusation, and accusing is not the point.

The point is that while China invaded Tibet a long time ago and Japan invaded China a long time ago, China did not invade Japan in modern history and Tibet is not Japan. Thus China has reason to be wary of Japan. Yes, Japan. The same nation that disregards her own constitution in order to keep war materiel. The same nation that is in utter denial of her warring, murderous past. The same nation taking steps to become even more capable of what it did in the past, with a PM openly talking about instilling nationalism and a government backtracking on Japan's peacekeeping plans by allowing arms sales to foreign nations.

As much as everyone is hyper sensitive to anything China does, is it really so very hard to see how Japan is inching back toward its militaristic past? We have all seen this pattern before, yes, it starts slow, but then the pace picks up.

China does have cause for concern. Japan is still a very strong naval power and China really cannot compare. Plus, Japan has America on its side. Thus, its the same situation as in the past: Japan has the potential to invade China. The reverse is not true. It is so so easy to say Japan is no threat, but you would feel differently if you were Chinese.

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China does have cause for concern.

Of course it does. Japan with her alliance and increasing capabilities are preventing China's unilateral expansion. Nothing more.

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so they can continue to harass South-East Asian nations, especially Vietnam and Philippines

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What a bunch of hogwash? China warning Japan not to disrupt Peace while they are making the largest Military procurements in it's History as if they are getting ready for a major conflict.

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@tim can

I see it as the free world worried about how to contain an increasing fascist China. The leadership in China even mock the US' attempts to do so. China should get no breaks for its "unique history" or its "century of humiliation". Time to join the modern world where democracy is important.

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@ tim can

I see. But if your concern of Japan inching back toward its militaristic past was right, those Chinese fishermen would have been shot and the Japanese would have supported their government fully for doing that. But the Japanese government took a different approach which favored the Chinese fishermen and left Japanese citizens angry and dissapointed. And the precious red coral died with millions of dollars damage.

http://www.japantoday.com/category/crime/view/japan-tells-china-to-stop-coral-poaching-after-200-boats-spotted

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China hopes that Japan continues down the "path of peace"

Japan should walk very slowly.

So when China starts on the same path it can catch up.

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Yet, many around the world hopes China would leaves from the path of aggression.

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I cannot say I am surprised by the wanton scapegoating of China, but it never cease to annoy to watch people invent wrongs or blow them out of proportion to feel better about themselves.

Yes, the Chinese government is fascist and corrupt, and even in recent history has murdered its own people although not on the scale of Mao.

Yes, China stole Tibet from its rightful owners. Yes, China brutally oppresses free speech and minorities in China. Yes, Chinese soldiers shoot unarmed pilgrims from mountaintops as they try to cross into Tibet like the uber cowards they are.

Yes, even I despise the Chinese government. You are all against me, fine. But do not think that this going to sway me from a fair accounting of the situation. China is expansionist? Yeah, on a scale of one to ten, its a one. China is internally focused and it always has been. Even the parts labeled expansionism is just what China perceives as her own territory and is peanuts in terms of land. Her biggest expansionist sins are in the South China Sea, but several other countries, especially Vietnam, are guilty of the same sins. But to inflate that into a determination to expand in the Philippines, Vietnam and Indonesia? Please, stop drinking the Kool-aid.

And no, its not a shock that China is building up her military. China still has a long way to go to catch up to Japan's naval power and if you think it does not rankle to have the U.S. patrolling their neighboring seas from the other side of the globe, think again.

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It is funny how they come out and say this to Japan every now and then about peace and all that shit. But have you ever seen them come out and say that to Vietnam or the Philippines?! Because they know Japan is not an easy target. Practice what you preach! They are a big brother now, or so they think, so why don’t they be a good role model and show us how to live peacefully. That is exactly what Japan did after the war they became a major contributor to the world economy. Don’t forget without Japan and Western nations China is nothing but a bunch of looser commies. Who are they kidding this time; take a look at their military expenditure and the way they behaved in the last couple of years around the South China and East China Seas and now Hong Kong. Pigs can fly!

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And no, its not a shock that China is building up her military. China still has a long way to go to catch up to Japan's naval power

Why is there a need to "catch up" in the first place?

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@tim cat - No criticism of the people of China far from it. The people of China support the Japanese economy, buying goods and services, also supporting UK economy through immigration and hard work. No my beef is with the elite political class hell bent on confrontation.

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without Japan and Western nations China is nothing but a bunch of looser commies.

China is not communist.

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The people of China support the Japanese economy,

and vice versa.

China is not communist.

Nobody is talking about Marx's textbook "Communist". When we say the Communist now, it means the failed Communists of the Soviet Union and present China.

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@tim can

China has done nothing compared to what Japan did

Yes, Japan has given China huge money every year for decades, and helped China build businesses and gave technology expertise. No country helped China more than Japan. Present China does not teach that to its people, but only anti-Japan education with much exaggerated figures.

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@strangerland

What is the official name of the ruling party in the PRC?

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I enjoy the fact that I'm annoying to right wingers.

You're annoying everybody, and I don't see the point of your doing it, keep insisting China not Communist, which only makes you childish and obstinate.

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China is not communist.

What is the official name of the ruling party in the PRC?

What's in a name?

The official name of the ruling party in Japan is Liberal Democratic, but it's neither liberal nor democratic.

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What is the official name of the ruling party in the PRC?

Why don't you ask the people in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea?

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All readers back on topic please.

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unfortunatly being a neigbour is difficult business in eastasia still yOu aare not outof this time and world

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China don't be an hypocrite, Southeast Asian Countries sounds to you?, stop bullying them first!.

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China's "path of peace" is really just another way of saying "our way or the highway." When China chooses peace rather than provocation then the region will have peace.

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When China chooses peace rather than provocation, then the region will have peace. China's "path of peace" is really just another way of saying "our way or the highway."

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