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Right. An unexpected obstruction kms above the earth.

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Usual carry on. They will admit nothing and some how find a way to blame their enemies. Strategic incursions to test the waters.

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The Japanese government has dismissed the Chinese claims as "nonsense,"

As they no doubt are.

China has not voiced regret over the airspace violation.

Unsurprising, given that it is China's official policy to violate other countries' borders.

Tokyo has also warned that if Beijing refuses to provide sufficient information, it could further damage Japanese public sentiment toward China

It couldn't get much lower than it already is.

And it will never rise whilst Xi and the CCP remain in charge.

10 ( +12 / -2 )

Usual nonsense and refusal to take responsibility by China. The contrast with Japan's response to their incident is glaring. Which country would you trust?

8 ( +10 / -2 )

Indeed, relations are so bad the annual trade volume surpasses US $300 billion.

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annual trade volume

Odd how China loves Japanese fish again when nothing was wrong with it before. Proximity matters when it comes to trade. Every country will trade with neighbors who are near. They've been trading for thousands of years, before the current govts existed.

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Japan should apologize for that unexpected obstruction to China !

-11 ( +0 / -11 )

oopsy! not one single word from china-gov is truth, ever. with respect to china-gov: their default setting is to lie, never tell truth, never admit any mistake or wrong-doing, etc etc

10 ( +10 / -0 )

China cordially allows Japan to save face for the cultural illiterate comments here (Usual nonsense and refusal to take responsibility by China; Right. An unexpected obstruction kms above the earth.)

This is about Japan saving face. Both China and Japan know there was not any unexpected obstruction.

This is much better for Japan than a statement: we breached your airspace to gather information.

Japan prefers to save their face. The U.S. in the early 20th century, could have enacted a Japanese Exclusionary Act but in order to save face, Japan promised not to allow laborers further emigration to the US in exchange for the US to not impose restrictions on Japanese immigrants already in the US or to be specific, separate these “pupils of the mongolian race” from students in the San Francisco public schools.

The airspace breach and the unexpected obstruction is negotiated by the proud Japanese side that “demanded an explanation.”

If it were up to the Chinese, there would no explanation necessary. Notice there was no apology or any acknowledgment of wrongdoing.

This statement was for Japan to tell Japan what Japan wants to hear as requested through diplomatic circles.

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@quercetum

Absolute nonsense!!

Read up to the second paragraph, and that was enough!!

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quercetumToday 04:09 pm JST

This is about Japan saving face.

This is about China violating other countries' territory and spinning lies, as usual.

China cordially

There is nothing cordial about China's behavior.

If it were up to the Chinese, there would no explanation necessary.

China has not provided an explanation anyway, despite diplomatic norms.

Notice there was no apology or any acknowledgment of wrongdoing.

And that's what we've all come to expect from the rogue state that is China.

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The usual pro-US led media who is trying to mount a case and create hysteria against China. People forget that Washington has 650 military bases around the world, or the huge NSA eavesdropping case in 2015, when the US administration was spying all their allies. Sheer hypocrisy. Who is being rogue here :)

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deanzaZZRToday  10:13 am JST

Indeed, relations are so bad the annual trade volume surpasses US $300 billion.

Trade volume doesn't mean anything to a G7 country. None of them are going to bow to Xi Jing Ping because of trade volume. Save that for the developing countries.

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The "unexpected obstruction" was a Japanese destroyer which flagrantly breached China's territorial waters.

Let's be honest about this.

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FosToday 05:52 pm JST

The usual pro-US led media who is trying to mount a case and create hysteria against China.

The usual pro-CCP mob that is trying to defend China's constant aggression and provocations.

People forget that Washington

The usual anti-US tu quoque. The US has nothing to do with the article.

JJEToday 06:42 pm JST

The "unexpected obstruction" was a Japanese destroyer which flagrantly breached China's territorial waters.

Which Japan immediately acknowledged as a mistake, then relieved the captain of duty.

China, in contrast, has provided no explanation, and acknowledged no wrongdoing.

Let's be honest about this.

Laughable.

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Immediate. Not at all the case.

-8 ( +1 / -9 )

Just when Japan is considering to start talking diplomacy, with his main neighbor, and finally as a result of the election flop, here comes Washington mounting a case which does not exist, to preserve their military orders. Just a reminder that China never attacked Japan, it was the other way around in history. And perhaps we should also remember USA actions during Second world war in Japan, Korea, Vietnam, and so on. How easy is to blame China for Washington, shifting the attention from the Middle East tragedy.

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FosToday  07:05 pm JST

Just a reminder that China never attacked Japan, it was the other way around in history.

Fact check:

China as the Yuan Dynasty attacked Japan twice, in 1274 and 1281, both times unsuccessfully.

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Also, we need to point out that China has not been engaged in military activity for the past forty years. In that time, the US has overthrown numerous governments and illegally invaded many countries.

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SavioToday 10:17 pm JST

Also, we need to point out that China has not been engaged in military activity for the past forty years.

We need to point out that your statement is false, as we do every time.

China is engaged in military/paramilitary activity right now in the South China Sea, and in violating India's borders (even with the recent preliminary agreement).

In that time, the US

The US still has nothing to do with the article, and is not responsible for China's aggression.

FosToday 10:33 pm JST

the genocide of American Indians

The US still has nothing to do with the article, and is not responsible for China's aggression.

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FosNov. 3 07:05 pm JST

How easy is to blame China for Washington, shifting the attention from the Middle East tragedy.

Literally brings up the ME on an article with nothing to do with the ME. I guess it is to be expected.

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SavioNov. 3 10:17 pm JST

forty years.

A carefully selected date I see.

In that time, the US has overthrown numerous governments and illegally invaded many countries.

Not so much. Only Iraq war 2 and the bombing of Yugoslavia were illegal. Meanwhile China encourages dog russia to run amok.

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They could have apologized supposed world leaders ahahaha what a joke

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China as the Yuan Dynasty attacked Japan twice, in 1274 and 1281

The Yuan Dynasty was part of the Mongolian empire, that has nothing to do with China or the Chinese. That's why the Chinese overthrown the Mongols after 89 years later.

Stop laying unprofound accusations about China attacked Japan in history!

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China as the Yuan Dynasty attacked Japan twice, in 1274 and 1281

The Yuan Dynasty was part of the Mongolian empire, that has nothing to do with China or the Chinese. That's why the Chinese overthrown the Mongols after 89 years later.

Stop laying unprofound accusations about China attacked Japan in history!

The French ruled the British Isles during the Norman Conquest in 1066. William the Conqueror, a French-speaking Norman Duke, defeated the English and took control of England. 

According to his logic, William the Conquerror is a part the British Empire. And he's fact checker lol.

The Americans defeated the Mexicans in the Mexican-American war. According to his logic, the Native-Americans defeated the Mexicans.

Both China and Japan knows there was no unexpected obstruction. Japan can't do anything but ask for an explanation. That's the best they're going get. This is all for the delicate pride of Japan.

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quercetumToday 08:09 am JST

Now tell us more about how a civil war can go on for 75 years without a shot being fired.

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Civil war is what will see from Wednesday 6th, and it is going to be surreal. That is what the country deserves after all the misdeeds all over the world in history

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FosToday 08:32 am JST

Civil war is what will see from Wednesday 6th, and it is going to be surreal. That is what the country deserves after all the misdeeds all over the world in history

The PRC is collapsing that soon? A bold prediction.

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And yet again, informing the readers that China does not have a history of military aggression beyond the defence of its own borders. If anybody read or watched the Brics Kazan meeting last week (because the US pro led media would not allow it), China and India were easily discussing borders activities.

“Not only in the last 40 years” the United States has repeatedly embarked on military interventions across the globe. 

And as it was pointed out early, in the course of the 20th century alone, Washington has participated in 39 armed conflicts, or one every three years, and since 2000 it has engaged in at least 12 wars, the equivalent of one every two years.  And here we have these lectures on the “concepts of Bullying" or "Threats"

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FosToday 08:36 am JST

“Not only in the last 40 years” the United States has repeatedly embarked on military interventions across the globe.

And all 100% legal with the exception of Iraq 2 and Yugoslavia. Someone has got to throw back the dictators.

since 2000 it has engaged in at least 12 wars, the equivalent of one every two years.

Does that include the war on drugs or something?

And here we have these lectures on the “concepts of Bullying" or "Threats"

Well when China does its military exercises around Taiwan or rams Filipino coast guard boats, the bullying is self-evident.

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elephant200Today  07:55 am JST

China as the Yuan Dynasty attacked Japan twice, in 1274 and 1281

The Yuan Dynasty was part of the Mongolian empire, that has nothing to do with China or the Chinese. That's why the Chinese overthrown the Mongols after 89 years later.

Fact check:

The People's Republic of China officially considers the Yuan dynasty to be Chinese. The Chinese government and historians reject the idea that the Yuan dynasty was foreign, as they believe it would damage China's reputation and threaten the legal basis for its territorial integrity.

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Now tell us more about how a civil war can go on for 75 years without a shot being fired.

Yes, China is making sure there won’t be war, as you said deterrence. All the exercises is indeed deterring Taiwan from declaring war which will lead to war.

The more interesting war is happening everyday on the EV front. EU tries to put a little tariff. Trump will place more tariffs. Tesla had hard times in the Chinese market. Volkswagen and its factories are getting destroyed. According to the Financial Times, China May have already won the EV race.

Then there’s the child war and many others. Why are you interested in some amphibious landing attempt that will never happen? You must be from an older generation. Wars aren’t fought that way anymore in Asia.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

child war → chips war.

Well when China does its military exercises around Taiwan or rams Filipino coast guard boats, the bullying is self-evident.

That’s what superpowers do. And it’s effective deterrence and maintains peace. When is the war that you say is going to happen since years ago when Pelosi visited?

This is the way to keep peace, a little water canon here and some bumper boat there…would you prefer Iraq, Libya, Yugoslavia, Syria, Gaza or Ukraine?

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

Again, history repeating itself. Let's hold on to the story about the Filipinos fishermen as the main reason to start a new Indo-Pacific war against China :) It reminds me of the Gulf of Tonkin incident, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident), or perhaps the more recent US State Secretary Colin Powell version of events at the UN Council, 2003.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

Had it been the other way around and any other country going into china air space they would have been target practice.

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People's Republic of China officially considers the Yuan dynasty to be Chinese. The Chinese government and historians reject the idea that the Yuan dynasty was foreign.

Historically, Yuan dynasty was China because that Mongolian regieme did existed in China's soil but politically the empire was run by the Mongolians, the Chinese has no say of whatsoever.

They believe it would damage China's reputation and threaten the legal basis for its territorial integrity.

Utterly nonsense ! I have never heard of such strange theory. The establishment of PRC since 1st Oct 1949 has defined the boundary of the nations.People's Republic of Mongolia wasn't within PRC boundary as of today.

Stop laying dirty excuses to smear China!

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