China tells Hagel it won't 'stir up trouble' with Japan

“We will not take the initiative to stir up trouble,” (this week,(silently to himself)) General Chang Wanquan told a joint news conference in the Chinese capital.

Beijing was ready to resolve disputes peacefully, Chang said, but added that “China has indisputable sovereignty” over the islands involved, calling territorial sovereignty a “core issue” on which “we will make no compromise”.

Beijing has the same "indisputable proof" that it owns the entire South China sea. Just ask them to show you an ancient map and they gladly forge one for you. Only problem is the ink takes a bit to dry.

Hell, I expect Communist China to claim ownership of the moon pretty soon and their proof will be some ancient map that they will claim they have always had.

“We will not take the initiative to stir up trouble, … we will make no compromise”

How strange the Chinese defense chief sounded. It looks like that the Chinese regime, right on Chuck Hagel’s face, took a page out of American's play book, telling Americans to restrain with its reassurance. It’s really hysterical.

This might mark as a turning point for the Chinese regime to show its willingness to take its gloves off after a period of conciliation and cooperation.

Despite angry rhetoric, the West and the US have largely accepted the reality of Russia’s takeover of Crimea and Chinese declaration of ADIZ.

But during 1995-1996 Taiwan Strait Crisis, the US was able to responded by staging the biggest display of American military might in Asia after Vietnam War, which successfully discouraged PLA to back off. But this time around, the US is facing a series of challenges, which none of them is easy to be fenced off. It would be interesting to see what would be the next from here. One thing will be certain that The Chinese will be even more assertive and emboldened .

@JoeBigs

If Japan has definite ownership of Senkaku/Daioyu islands without doubt, why would Japan offer to explore resources jointly with China? If Japan owns it, they didn't need to ask China but they did. It shows Japan has a weak claim and they know it. This already happened few years ago. The solution to the competing claims emerged in 2008, when Japan and China reached a principled consensus on joint development of an area that includes the potentially gas-rich Chunxiao/Shirakaba field. However, the 2010 ramming of Japanese Coast Guard cutters by a Chinese fishing boat and the subsequent arrest of the Chinese captain by the Japanese, have halted all movement toward formalizing the 2008 consensus.

If Japan has definite ownership of Senkaku/Daioyu islands without doubt, why would Japan offer to explore resources jointly with China? If Japan owns it, they didn't need to ask China but they did. It shows Japan has a weak claim and they know it.

This kind of thinking is so negative. If everyone thought like that, where conciliatory gestures are taken as a sign of weakness, then clearly there could be no compromise and they might as well start the war now.

hatsoff Apr. 09, 2014 - 08:25AM JST This kind of thinking is so negative. If everyone thought like that, where conciliatory gestures are taken as a sign of weakness, then clearly there could be no compromise and they might as well start the war now.

If you look at the history, the real problem is how U.S. handle the peace treaty after the WWII. PRC's Zhou Enlai supported the Soviet proposal that all states that participated with their armed forces against Japan should prepare the treaty. Instead, the U.S. had monopolized the task to exclude China. Why did the U.S. wanted to exclude China in 1951 SF Treaty? On the surface of course the Communist Party was now in power and U.S. and Chinese troops were fighting each other in Korea. But Britain also had troops in Korea and yet was prepared to invite the PRC to the conference. It was actually the Soviet Union that was behind the North Korean attack on the south, yet the U.S. permitted the Soviet Union actively to participate in the conference. China suffered the longest and the deepest from Japanese aggression. The SF Treaty divided China with numerous other territorial disputes that the U.S. used in justifying its continuing presence in the region.

As long as the neighbors allow them selves to be led by an external but very self interested party they will not achieve any lasting settlement. Logical approach would be to discuss the mutual exploitation of natural resources regardless of who has the custody of and responsibility for the islands. Instead of mutually developing and enjoying the benefits all there are wasting time and money to keep each other out of what naturally should be mutual. Japan should take a lead and invite the future parents on to the planing, not the negotiating, table. No one should be asked to participate or be allowed to impose the rules.

Yeah right BS

Beijing will not act first to “stir up trouble” over island disputes with neighbors, China’s defense minister said Tuesday

Then, China should stop sending armed boats to Senkakus almost everyday.

sfjp330Apr. 09, 2014 - 08:31AM JST

Why did the U.S. wanted to exclude China in 1951 SF Treaty?

Because Chinese Communisty Party was evil. You know the Cold War, dont you?

China was excluded in 1951 because there were two Chinese governments back then, and no one knew yet if the Chinese government in Taiwan would would try to retake the mainland. It is very difficult to deal with two separate governments claiming the same land. That is how it was in 1951.

Reuters put the spin on this a little differently. Their headline is that China 'gave Hagel an earful'.

Hagel was sharply questioned by Chinese officers at the National Defense University. One of them told Hagel he was concerned that the United States was stirring up trouble in the East and South China Sea because it feared someday "China will be too big a challenge for the United States to cope with."

"Therefore you are using such issues ... to make trouble to hamper (China's) development," the officer said.

China is getting too big for its britches, the monster we ALL helped create in China may soon need to be put down because China simply CANNOT be honest with its own people it HAS to create problems with all its neighbours so it keep it locals from focusing too much on domestic issues.

Like I have been saying China a fire cracker that has been lit, when will it explode/implode or BOTH, only time will tell.

It will take a real miracle to keep China in line& MAKE it act like a responsible country, but I wouldn't bet on it!!!

Shameless communist China words sound like a broken record engineering for land grabbing as has been done throughout China history. They are stirring the pot all over S. China sea (name needs to be changed) and bullying many nations at the moment. To whom are you kidding? They act unilateral, demand bilateral, and avoid multilateral- what a shame. Bully China moves according to a master plan that was not born overnight, and they would say anything, regardless. By 2017, two more anti ballistic ships and many more to come that help to check this bully in Asia.

The picture of a bully nicely reassuring and waving to the principal with one hand while punching a fellow student with the other hand comes into mind. That picture sums up China's hypocrisy behavior.

The headline, 'China tells Hagel it won't 'stir up trouble' with Japan' , it's positive, It's encouraging, It's uplifting, it's even inspiring.

Then one makes the jump, and is confronted with China’s defence minister's take, Beijing will not act first to “stir up trouble”. Will not act 'first'?, worded like a magicians sleight of hand, now you see it, now you don't, abracadabra it's gone. 'It's you started it, I didn't' mentality . “We will not take the initiative to stir up trouble,” General Chang Wanquan told a joint news conference in the Chinese capital, heave to there General, I thought it was 'won't' stir up trouble, why does 'initiative' have to be added to the equation? it's either will or won't.

Then just to kick the cherry off the top of the cake, along come the state-run media editorials:

The China Daily said: “Instead of helping to ease the tensions and promote peaceful settlements of the disputes in the South China Sea, the U.S. has simply been emboldening countries in their bids to provoke China.”

“There is little difference between Washington’s current partiality for Tokyo and Manila and open support of confronting China,” said the Global Times.

I can't remember who said “A wonderful gift may not be wrapped as you expect.” but that's the feeling I have, a box of chocolates with all my favourites missing.

Instead of helping to ease the tensions and promote peaceful settlements of the disputes in the South China Sea, the U.S. has simply been emboldening countries in their bids to provoke China.

That's how it looks to me too.

The China Daily said: “Instead of helping to ease the tensions and promote peaceful settlements of the disputes in the South China Sea, the U.S. has simply been emboldening countries in their bids to provoke China.”

Ha, that's a good one from China Daily. China is more than enough self-motivated on its own. The other nations need not do anything.

The China Daily said: “Instead of helping to ease the tensions and promote peaceful settlements of the disputes in the South China Sea, the U.S. has simply been emboldening countries in their bids to provoke China.”

Next I'd like to hear the China Daily's suggestions on how to promote peaceful settlements of the disputes, etc. Back off and forget China is doing the provoking?

China should stop encroaching and respect neighbors air space and sea in south and east china sea.

China should stop encroaching and respect neighbors air space and sea in south and east china sea. china seeks to re-draw the boundaries when china found hydro carbons in Spratly island and Scarborough shoal and china needs these atolls and reefs to bolster their sea and air space. China should wake up and change their attitude toward it's neighbors when Chancellor Merkel of Germany gave an old map of china dated 1697-1782 an old map of china that doesn't include Tibet, Lower Mongolia, Manchuria, Taiwan and Spratly islands. A perfect gift to a visiting Chinese dignitary is at odds with how china views it's historical boundaries.. Was the Chancellor have a message to Xi Jin ping to the old Chinese map?

Typical communist China attitude; what mine is mine and what yours is mine. I hope Japan will teach them a lesson how to behave sensibly. They are getting too big for their heads. Look at what happened in South China Sea they slowly invaded all their Neighbours Island using historical map to justify for their bad behaviour. No freaking idea where they get all these historical data from, as one reader mention, they soon claim the moon belong to their ancestor as well, using August moon festival to back up the claims.