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China asked for it and we listened. Based on history it is in China’s interest to have a strong US presence in the region to keep Japan in check.

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Hilarious, China. The only alerts that responsible countries need are about the movements of the dictatorship cabal of Chine, Russia, and North Korea.

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Regional alert for who? Funny how nobody else, aside from North Korea and Russia, seems to have a problem with the US military presence in Asia… in fact China has helped the US shore up friends and support in the region.

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Since some fine gentleman will try to conflate the Northern Mariana Islands with Ukraine, the UNSC placed the NMI in trusteeship with the US and Japan relinquished control of them in the Treaty of San Francisco.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_21

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%20136/volume-136-I-1832-English.pdf

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Maybe China should make a deal and abandon all of it's bases they built on the coral atolls in exchange for the USA not to proceed with the tinian island base?

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@Aurelius

The big joke is China urging a regional alert. Most of the countries in the South China Seas support the American presence and are laughing at China's two faced warning.

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Trust the country bullying every other nation in the region or the us? Not really a question and the world should have forced them to pay compensation after causing covid, we didn’t and here we are on the brink of them invading Taiwan..

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AureliusToday 09:28 am JST

There's nothing militarily China has done in 5000 year's that even comes close to what the USA has done militarily in less than 300

Annexing Tibet and Xinjiang if you want to go back far enough. Then we have propping up the murderous North Korea and Khmer Rouge. Then we have backing Russia in their fascist war. Then we have the bullying of the Philippines. And then we have the attempts to intimidate Taiwan. All of that isn't to mention the disgusting things the CCP does to its own citizens.

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Annexing Tibet and Xinjiang if you want to go back far enough. Then we have propping up the murderous North Korea and Khmer Rouge. Then we have backing Russia in their fascist war. Then we have the bullying of the Philippines. And then we have the attempts to intimidate Taiwan. All of that isn't to mention the disgusting things the CCP does to its own citizens.

Why’d ya stop? All that only covers all the lies, destruction, death, waste etc from one Iraq war.

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There's nothing militarily China has done in 5000 year's that even comes close to what the USA has done militarily in less than 300

China literally starved 40 - 80 MILLION of its own people during the Great Leap Forward. China is built on more blood than any other country today

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FizzBitToday 10:26 am JST

Annexing Tibet and Xinjiang if you want to go back far enough. Then we have propping up the murderous North Korea and Khmer Rouge. Then we have backing Russia in their fascist war. Then we have the bullying of the Philippines. And then we have the attempts to intimidate Taiwan. All of that isn't to mention the disgusting things the CCP does to its own citizens.

Why’d ya stop? All that only covers all the lies, destruction, death, waste etc from one Iraq war.

Quite literally doesn't. The Iraq war didn't result in trillions and trillions of casualties. In fact the number of refugees are about the same as Putin's war.

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AlternativeOpinionToday 09:21 am JST

Maybe China should make a deal and abandon all of it's bases they built on the coral atolls in exchange for the USA not to proceed with the tinian island base?

Actually, China should abandon them whatever the US does, as China's bases and land reclamations are 100% illegal under international law.

The US bases are all legal, at the request of the host nations.

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China's defense ministry on Thursday urged the Asia-Pacific to be on high alert

Overall, a useful distraction over their not-so-good economic year, and the ill feelings felt by most of their neighbors, who continue to endure maritime bullying alongside their corrosive foreign policy.

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Plain as day double speak from the very actor preparing to start a war of opportunity itself. The fact that these statements are the very antithesis of the actual truth suggests a few possible explanations. Take your pick.

a) that China has indeed drunk its own koolaid.

b) they have such contempt for the west and the free world that they are quite comfortable with plain as day falsehoods. Not embarrassed whatsoever. Lying straight to peoples faces is a form of revenge.

c) they actually believe people will buy into their narrative , after all theres plenty of examples of anti-establishment, anti Western mobs swept up in the emotional frenzy from the events in the Middle East. An opportunity to appeal to those closet revolutionaries that will believe literally anything they are fed. America is public enemy number one, we are just the poor oppressed Chinese It could even work!

Ni how!

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Really? And who should Americans “Alert” each time the chinese ram a ship into a different country’s ship?

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Aurelius you are the spokesman of the revolution! Thankyou!!! Bang on time too.

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You think the great leap forward was a militarily operation ?

”Of the 10 most damaging wars in history based on combatant and civilian deaths, five started in China.”

https://www.businessinsider.com/bloodiest-conflicts-in-chinese-history-2014-10?amp

”The Qing Dynasty Conquest Of The Ming DynastY

1618 to 1683, with an estimated 25 million casualties

The Taiping Rebellion 

1850 to 1864, with an estimated 20 million casualties

I only listed 2 Chinese wars and they already outnumber the amount of death America has caused / experienced in war

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If you want disgusting look no further than the continental USA

None of this comes close to the amount of people Mao killed in the Great Leap Forward

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Trust the country bullying every other nation in the region or the us?

The U.S. is being bullied by China? This would brake the Chinese proud.

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Tinian island, part of the Northern Mariana Islands, a U.S. territory, and about 200 kilometers (124 miles) north of Guam.

Unlike China's man made islands in other nations territory, this is actual US territory and completely legal. It is normal for nations to deploy military anywhere in its territory, and normal to develop or redevelop it lands and territories as it chooses.

China's defense ministry on Thursday urged the Asia-Pacific to be on high alert as the United States steps up forward military deployment in the region,

That has to be a joke, and a bad one. The region is mostly aligned with the US and dependent on it for protection, those who have their own significant military are either allied to the US in some way or just not concerned about US military patrolling the region and keeping the peace. It makes everyone safer.

On the other hand, nations like China who have plans to conquer areas of the region will need to make new plans to take into account the increased US flexibility and options in the Asia-Pacific theater of operations. Too bad for them. Just who apart from NK and Russia might want to be on "high alert" over the US focus on keeping China's military in check is a mystery.

China has no friends or allies. Just relationships of convenience.

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Trust the country bullying every other nation in the region or the us?

The U.S. is being bullied by China? This would make the Chinese proud.

The US is much weaker than it was before, and China is stronger than it was before; but I didn’t think Americans think they’re being bullied. This makes me think the U.S. needs to stand up and not whine about it. Build more military bases as 800 obviously is not enough.

The same nation that could once control a conflict from Washington D.C. alone, is unable to rein in its most dependent lackey ally, Israel. Russia is more civil than Israel.

The Chinese Navy is docking in Cambodia and so the U.S. needs to do some yard work and clear up Tinian.

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There's nothing militarily China has done in 5000 year's that even comes close to what the USA has done militarily in less than 300

Fortunately for the region and the world, the CCP has only been in power since 1949. Since then they have expanded their territory and subjugated Tibet, claimed Taiwan with plans to invade it, claimed the South China sea in almost its entirety, and built man made islands in other nations territories. Lets not forget they joined NK in a war to invade and take over South Korea, taking on forces dispatched by the UN to defend it, and killing all and sundry. Briefly invaded Vietnam until they were kicked out, started military "skirmishes" with neighbors Russia and India. And China has more disputes about territory than any other nation on the planet. Not bad for only being around for 74 years.

China is the regions biggest threat to peace and security. No doubt or question of that whatsoever!

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quercetumToday 11:39 am JST

Trust the country bullying every other nation in the region or the us?

The U.S. is being bullied by China? This would brake the Chinese proud.

Whatever helps them get through their property crisis and youth unemployment.

The US is much weaker than it was before, and China is stronger than it was before; but I didn’t think Americans think they’re being bullied. This makes me think the U.S. needs to stand up and not whine about it. Build more military bases as 800 obviously is not enough.

We can always take you up on that, but you'd be moaning like always rather than taking it in stride.

The same nation that could once control a conflict from Washington D.C. alone, is unable to rein in its most dependent lackey ally, Israel.

Not sure what you're going on about but the "problem" is that the US has no real desire to rein in Israel.

Russia is more civil than Israel.

There is no evidence of this.

The Chinese Navy is docking in Cambodia and so the U.S. needs to do some yard work and clear up Tinian.

The US docked a carrier in Danang this year and that is actually relevant.

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China's defense ministry on Thursday urged the Asia-Pacific to be on high alert as the United States steps up forward military deployment in the region

maybe we can change it to : Asean countries' defense ministry on Thursday urged the Asean to be on high alert as the china commies steps up forward military deployment in the region.

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We made the mistake of having one superpower. The UK had decided to tolerate this because they were too badly broken after World War II and needed the US to survive as a developed nation. The world has paid through the endless wars US engages and has engaged in.

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quercetumToday 11:58 am JST

We made the mistake of having one superpower. The UK had decided to tolerate this because they were too badly broken after World War II and needed the US to survive as a developed nation. The world has paid through the endless wars US engages and has engaged in.

Aw, you poor boy. Nobody wanted China to return to relevance under the corrupt CCP but we have to deal with the world as it is.

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AureliusToday 11:21 am JST

Who started the industrial revolutions ?

Which civilization has contributed more to the world and influenced the world

FYI - it aint the USA

It ain't China, either. China didn't develop the steam engine and their black powder wasn't fully utilized and had to be replaced with smokeless powder by not China.

If you want disgusting look no further than the continental USA

The woke phenomenon

Disney movies

Giving women and minorities roles in media and Disney. Say it ain't so!!!

They're all whining and stomping their feet and throwing tantrums about China's actions and not got the guts to assertively stop China's pushing forward

China is laughing and has made fools out of them

And i don't even like or support China however iam not deluded

Yeah how dare SE asian nations not take on the largest navy in the world.

The only way to stop China expanding like a parasitic blob is war with China

Is that what you want ?

Whatever it takes to stop the cancer, as you said.

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Mao was responsible for more than 30 million Chinese deaths. Chinese citizens died due to famine, execution, and forced labor, along with massive economic and environmental destruction.

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Oh wow--American envy at its finest!

If you want disgusting look no further than the continental USA

Genocide of native Americans 

The UK did the same.

The slave trade

The UK started it.

And the US was a minor participant compared to other countries.

You must be angry at Brazil.

Nuclear atrocities

No.

The woke phenomenon

This is disgusting? Revolting maybe. But it is also spread all over Europe.

Disney movies

I only watch'em if a deer is in it.

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@wallace: Britain was responsible for opium trade and opium war against China caused the 100 years of Chinese tragedy since 1840. Mao was a great leader, he sent troops to Korea in Korean war to take revenge for that debts!

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Mao was a great 

Great leaders don’t kill 40 million of their own people. He was a scumbag

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Mao and Stalin both betrayed their people and countries for the sake of power.

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And who was it and why did most of those wars even happen

Foreign intervention , Foreign influence

Neither of the wars I listed had anything do with foreign intervention. None of the 5 wars have anything to do with foreign intervention

Anyway it still doesn't compare to what the USA did in less than 300 years

Those two wars alone account for way more deaths and destruction than anything the U.S. has been involved in

End of discussion

Agreed. You’re wrong

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Mao was responsible for more than 30 million Chinese deaths. Chinese citizens died due to famine, execution, and forced labor, along with massive economic and environmental destruction.

Did the 20 year embargo have anything to do with that?

Id say this was one of the few almost successful policies taken against the Commies but in the end it failed. The U.S. called uncle and needed China’s help to end the Vietnam War and to keep China apart from the Soviets.

They were starved and ate anything, bats, rats, you name it. If it weren’t for Mao and Deng, China would be carved up and divided.

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It’s so good to see a multipolar works instead of one superpower.

Now you can choose between buying arms from the U.S. or contracting infrastructure from China. You can now choose to settle transactions in dollars or in yuan or in rubles or in EUD without being killed.

Before there was only one. Now you have two and you can choose.

Now that’s democracy!

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Did the 20 year embargo have anything to do with that?

Mao and the CCP’s idiotic policies led to it:

”Mao decreed that efforts to multiply grain yields and bring industry to the countryside should be increased. Local officials were fearful of Anti-Rightist Campaigns and they competed to fulfill or over-fulfill quotas which were based on Mao's exaggerated claims, collecting non-existent "surpluses" and leaving farmers to starve to death”

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quercetumToday 01:46 pm JST

Mao was responsible for more than 30 million Chinese deaths. Chinese citizens died due to famine, execution, and forced labor, along with massive economic and environmental destruction.

Did the 20 year embargo have anything to do with that?

Nobody is required to trade with a corrupt country that will steal everything you have. Communism should have cause yields to go through the roof, right?

Id say this was one of the few almost successful policies taken against the Commies but in the end it failed. The U.S. called uncle and needed China’s help to end the Vietnam War and to keep China apart from the Soviets.

There is no evidence North Vietnam factored China's role in at all in signing the Paris Peace Accords.

They were starved and ate anything, bats, rats, you name it.

Under Mao I'm sure.

If it weren’t for Mao and Deng, China would be carved up and divided.

No one can say what a free China would have looked like except by looking at Taiwan.

It’s so good to see a multipolar works instead of one superpower.

You can say bipolar and the next power rising is India.

Now you can choose between buying arms from the U.S. or contracting infrastructure from China. You can now choose to settle transactions in dollars or in yuan or in rubles or in EUD without being killed.

Before there was only one. Now you have two and you can choose.

Now that’s democracy!

Yes, you can choose a currency you can't invest in the US or China, or you can choose the dollar. I think we know what people will choose.

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@Redemption and Aurelius

Loving your comments guys!

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@TaiwanIsNotChina

The communists are only good at infiltration, espionage, and sabotage.

I often visit a Chinese run dining bar where I get the best Chinese pork dumplings that aI have ever tasted

Pease add cooking to your list

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Alert to China’s hegemony. Good idea.

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There is no evidence North Vietnam factored China's role in at all in signing the Paris Peace Accords.

Another example of ignorance. Your knowledge is basically limited to the news, and diplomatic circles clearly are not within your range. Your posts are nothing but one liners. Try putting together an opinion piece. You also don’t seem to understand all that has to go on and go right in order to pull off something like the Paris Accords.

The U.S. has helped China via the WTO in the late 1990’s. China has helped the U.S. in its role it played in ending the Vietnam War and in the Global Financial Crisis/Lehman Shock in 2008.

To return to the subject, the U.S. embargo was designed to cause the breakdown of the country and to pin it on the CPC. So your view and the Mao killed millions are exactly what the narrative is selling. Essentially starve people and get them to blame their governments or worse say they killed their own people in cold blood. Almost succeeded but what doesn’t kill you will only makes you stronger. Look at China today. The U.S. won against the USSR but failed with Red China.

I think we know what people will choose.

As long as transactions don’t have to be in USD that’s a win for the rest of world. It doesn’t matter what they choose. What matters is that there is an alternative. Multipolar is the way to go. Choice. That’s democracy.

What you need to realize is that, the Dollar being a primary reserve currency has been an issue that many countries have secretly not been very comfortable with. It was one of the not so public reasons for the existence of the EURO.

Many Nations especially those in the Middle East felt it wrong to sell their oil and keep all the money earned from those sales in accounts in the United States.

However back then the US was too powerful. Saddam Hussain tried and ended up being murdered after a bogus invasion. Gadaffi tried and was killed in a color revolution sponsored by the United States.

The Saudis, the Qataris, the Iranians all felt like they were under a colonial authoritarian who decided and controlled every aspect of their life using the dollar.

The US was making up rules and using the power of sanctions and its military to destroy anyone who did not toe the line. Thus the fact that the Dollar was the primary reserve currency was not something everyone was happy with.

As I mentioned earlier, the UK had no choice at the end of the war. Russia due to its incompetent leadership under geriatrics like Brezhnev, Andropov and Gromyko and Chernenko plus idiots like Gorbachev also needed US Dollars to rescue its economy from collapse and hyperinflation.

China was happy earning dollars and building its reserves and growing 14% a year.

In short the US had forced these nations into situations where the US and its Dollars were indispensable to them. Things are changing now.

The US is much weaker than it once was. It is riddled with debt

It has sanctioned and played unfair so many times that it has lost its credibility. Americans can’t say free trade anymore because free trade puts them at a huge disadvantage. Sanctions due to national security issues is the American way to compete.

So every nation that once tolerated the US Dollar as the primary reserve, is starting to trade in other currencies including the Yuan, the Ruble and their own local currencies. They have a choice. They choose their own currencies or non-Dollar currencies. Now that’s democracy!

Energy & Food is now being sold in Yuan and priced in Yuan.

Qatar sells LNG to China pricing it in Yuan as do Saudi Arabia and Russia.

Brazil sells Soybeans and Ore priced in Yuan to China.

The US may still be fine against any attack on the US itself but your offensive warfare capabilities have significantly become weaker and weaker. Your military leaders are weak.

The Politicians are imbeciles - they’re either Neocons or Corrupt Ideologues or Neo Liberals.

The U.S. is no longer the only super power and that’s a relief to the rest of the world.

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iam an American and iam ashamed of what has happened militarily and how America military and government is so arrogant

You know, I would agree with you on this. But believing that the CCP are good for China or that US enemies can't be all bad if they are US enemies is just as naive is thinking the USA is a force of goodness and democracy around the world.

It's a complicated world. Yes, the US is a bully and a threat to peace. But , yes, China is also a bully and a threat to peace. Uninformed cynicism is not much of an improvement over uninformed gullibility.

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quercetumToday 04:45 pm JST

404 evidence not found. Guess it was all bluster after all.

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quercetumToday 04:45 pm JST

Dollar strong. Interest rates low. Debt in line with the G7. I get the feeling your copy pasta reflects the view in Peking and a few of its dictatorship underlings but that isn't the world.

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You know, I would agree with you on this. But believing that the CCP are good for China 

It depends on when you choose to evaluate the CPC. If during the cultural revolution, then you will get one answer. If during the period of 14% annual growth or now, you’ll get another.

They are good for China in that they are a free and independent Chinese government and not a puppet government of a foreign power of the West. In terms of how well they’ve done, I have to give credit to the US and Japan.

China has learned from Japan how to deal with the U.S. and has avoided the mistakes Japan has made, although China does not have the U.S. military on its soil like Japan does. China has done well with the yuan/dollar whereas Japan basically put an end to its growth when they agreed to let the US walk all over them in 1985. Look at Japan the last three decades. From the U.S. perspective, the US has soundly defeated Japan, once a rising rival powerhouse, in the economic war.

China also learned from the U.S. bubble in the 2008 crisis and sucked it up by popping the bubble now instead of letting it balloon out of control.. The CPC is letting the real estate industry taking it in its teeth. It is a responsible visionary move not to mention that money is going into property speculation but once popped, it’ll go towards tech where it should go. The CPC is not tied down by elections and can bite the bullet.

Ultimately that one poster thought the Great Leap Forward was some invasion that killed 25 million Chinese sums up the level of awareness outside one’s own country here.

So yes, acknowledging the U.S. (the ones in real power) has done evil does not make China an angel but even if China were evil, this would have no bearing on the evil actions the U.S. has taken. That country B is also evil, if it were true, does not make country A any less evil.

The US is ruled by those who can prop up a puppet and among them are ones who profit from creating conflicts, supplying arms for the conflicts, and providing loans for reconstruction after the conflicts.

Wash rinse and repeat.

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So China has been building bases in international waters and everyone is supposed to just sit by and be fine with that?

China does not want to be embargoed again like in the 50’s to the 70’s. It is taking responsibility to protect its sea lanes like a responsible government should do, protect it s economic welfare. China has a direct pipeline from Russia and is looking into the Artic with Russia but like any responsible government, it needs to cover its bases.

The U.S. has 800 military bases around the world. The number of bases China has can be counted by the fingers of one hand. Why do you American people get your overalls all bunched up over this?

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quercetumToday 06:16 pm JST

The US is ruled by those who can prop up a puppet and among them are ones who profit from creating conflicts, supplying arms for the conflicts, and providing loans for reconstruction after the conflicts.

The US defense industry is less than 3% of the US economy. The spending on the DoD is 3% as well (salaries fit within the rounding error). It would be a pretty poor president that would focus on wars to make money. Now you will claim that all the money is made from loans but the data seems to say that China with its usury makes more money off of loans to developing countries than the US:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022199621001197#f0045

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Why do you American people get your overalls all bunched up over this?

Because we see that respectable countries like the Philippines and Taiwan are at severe risk of being overrun by not respectable China.

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AureliusToday 07:30 pm JST

It's a complicated world. Yes, the US is a bully and a threat to peace. But , yes, China is also a bully and a threat to peace. Uninformed cynicism is not much of an improvement over uninformed gullibility.

Agreed

However..

Having a personal opinion based on experience rather than either cynicism or gullibility perhaps should be evaluated

Yeah rage when you see capitalism at work is not experience anybody should be able to relate to.

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It depends on when you choose to evaluate the CPC. If during the cultural revolution, then you will get one answer. If during the period of 14% annual growth or now, you’ll get another.

Why stop there? Because the party faction that created 14% annual growth has been replaced by a party led by one uncultured megalomaniac. He will destroy China, which had so much hope just 15 years ago. You should keep up with this.

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quercetumToday 06:16 pm JST

They are good for China in that they are a free and independent Chinese government

They are bad for China in that the people are not free and independent.

Fixed that for you.

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The only way to stop China expanding like a parasitic blob is war with China

Is that what you want ?

Nobody wants war with anyone, but if the only options are war with China or allowing China to expand and take control then the answer is definitely war with China. What happens is on China's shoulders.

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Extremely different cultures

The world needs to accept multipolar balance to attain peace

No single country should be world leader

Funny you put it like that because the US is a mutipolar nation with multiple political parties, and peaceful handover of power when the vote goes to the other party. China does not share that multi-polar view as it has a one party rule, and no other political party is allowed. But now all of a sudden they say the world should be mutipolar but just not multi-polar inside China. Can you taste the irony? How about the hypocrisy?

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China does not need to worry about being embargoed if it drops it's ridiculous 9-dashline claim, recognizes the international ruling in favor of the Phillipines, and formally denounces the use of force as an option against Taiwan. Regional peace and stability is not so hard to achieve if China chooses to behave like a civilized country that wants to get along with all of it's neighbors.

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