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TaiwanIsNotChina
Inb4 "US had the worst covid response" when actually the US has the best covid response. What proportions of Americans decided to get vaccinated is irrelevant to any reasonable discussion about the CDC.
Greenstingray
Good job Kishida. The LDP getting the job done as usual.
GillislowTier
Japans response looked great internationally for some reason but mostly due in part to a population that immediately peer pressured each other into not being jerks.
the government itself s reaction was awful for 3 years straight. Somehow each wave never had enough beds secured, hospitals were allowed to reject sick people, and relief efforts for the economy were relegated to pointless areas and projects.
but yeah good job y’all banzais all around. If the general population wasn’t filled with mostly responsible adults, this place would have been screwed
jeffb
More laws: the solution to every problem.
Rodney
they stuffed up, lied and helped US companies make vast amounts of money. Maybe a good model for Japan.
CPTOMO
Japan's parliament on Wednesday enacted laws to establish a new institution modeled after the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to better respond to health crises after the government was criticized for its handling of the coronavirus outbreak.
Good move Japan, following the world's premier health authority.
virusrex
Let's see how the fusion develops in the future, unfortunately the Japanese government has made it very clear since many years ago that the opinion of experts is only taken into account when it goes along with what the government wants to do anyway.
Further complications come from the other functions that both the NIID and NCGM have that would come on top of what the new control body is planned to perform (such as vaccine testing or all the different medical treatments not related to infectious diseases respectively). Also this will mean a net reduction of the people working on the field since both institutions have departments that are for practical purposes the same (even if the work done is not) so it is not illogical to expect either to be axed, and since people working at the NIID will lose their status as public officials (and the permanency of the position that comes with it) this mean a lot of experts will find themselves looking for a job elsewhere, not exactly something that will promote scientific advancement.
Raw Beer
Japan did relatively well because they did not have any strict mandates. Doctors were initially allowed to prescribe certain early treatments for off-label use. They later forbid this, but fortunately we were still allowed to order them online from overseas.
I worry that the new disease control body might be more captured than the current one, and with greater power to control our lives...
I just want them to get out of the way...
Raw Beer
Oh, just in time for SEERS-25.
Hideomi Kuze
Japan's government has Not fought to pandemic at all since 2020.
They always care benefiting economy circle, repeat insufficient and unscientific response to Covid19, don't produce even enough PCR test system to society.
And present Kishida regime had continue no measures, last year, they had deteriorated domestic Covid19 deaths per population to world worst.
Besides, innumerable people are suffering Covid19 sequela but Kishida regime pretend as if Covid19 ended.
virusrex
Opposite relationship, Japan did not need mandates because the population followed the necesssary measures without the government having to force them. The clear example is the use of masks, that was never mandated but still nearly universally followed, saying that Japan did not used masks because it was not mandated is an obvious misrepresentation.
That brought no benefit, only extra risks as proved by scientific studies, which meant there was no problem with reducing that extra risk and opting for actually effective treatments.
If your claim is that this in any way is responsible for the reduced burden on the health services in Japan you need much more evidence than just being able to buy them, you would at least need to show this was done in a significant degree and that people doing it did better, you have no such evidence.
When the only parameter you have to consider something "captured" is that they share the global scientific consensus that you don't want to accept then this is not a real problem.
What would a fictional scenario have to do with this, the scenario is being used right now, not in two years.
Raw Beer
No, it is that they ignored the data they had available to approve dangerous ineffective products (e.g. remdesivir) and forbid safe and effective ones. For example, documents obtained through FOIA requests show that at the moment the mRNA shots were first approved, they had the Pfizer data showing the shots rapidly leaving the injection site and accumulating in various organs. They also had data showing their severe adverse effects. And yet, they approved them and never told anyone about this data! No informed consent!
Clay
Democracy, right?! Great idea to fund & secure pandemic preparedness, to include legal & regulatory framework. Viruses, Corona & Futures Ones, remain risky!
Mr Kipling
Virusex...
THIS!
Exactly how covid policies were decided.
virusrex
Which policies? in the case of Japan most were well fundamented (like vaccination or use of masks) other were random and arbitrary (like closing times for restaurants) while others were against the recommendation of the experts (like the Olympics and Go to travel campaign). It was quite easy to see which ones were scientifically based since the panel of experts openly supported them while the others were justified by unrelated people (like economists).
virusrex
The problems for the covid response in the US depended much more on the culture of misunderstood freedom and blind opposition to act for the common goal than whatever the CDC did.
That makes absolutely no sense, the infection comes with much higher risk for the health of the people, not only for the acute diseases but for increased risks for long term, even permanent. There is no realistic posibility the vaccines will suddenly and magically produce an effect that could surpass this risk without any known biological mechanism that could cause it.
It is not impossible to evaluate, it is actually very easy. Comparing the outcome from vaccinated and unvaccinated people it is easy to see unvaccinated people complicate and die much more, unless you believe those dead people could suddenly come back to life the determination is for all realistic purposes already done.
That is irrelevant, you could say the same for everything, from aspirins to vitamins, according to you that would mean nothing could ever be qualified as safe, obviously this makes absolutely no sense.
Covid has already been correlated with a wide variety of health problems, without a scientific argument to refute there is no merit in pretending it could be safer than vaccinating.