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Envoys from 93 nations to attend Hiroshima A-bomb peace ceremony

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A peace declaration. My foot !!

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The world's first atomic bomb exploded over the western Japan city on Aug 6, 1945, 

Incorrect. The worlds first nuclear explosion took place July 16 1945.

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I respect the event, but really, we all can't travel in an SOE, but those at the top can

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Instead of a declaration of peace, the event became a political propaganda, a show of injustice and empty, repetitive words. And above all, a media spectacle. It is completely devoid of any human dignity and completely detached, humanly, from the event that started this. It is terribly undignified and demeaning to those who lived through it and survived. If they are serious about it, let them do it in a dignified and civil way, without politicians, political talk, blame and victim games. I foolishly visited this event in 1996 (or was it 1997?) and then 2015. In both cases I found it unpleasant and almost embarrassing. When a person visits this place outside of this date, it looks completely different. More dignified, and one is not pressured into a certain interpretation.

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China will not attend.

China building more than 100 ‘nuclear’ missile silos in desert

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/01/china-building-missile-silos-nuclear

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China not attending is less embarrasing than Japan crying nuclear victim yet refusing to sign the

the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons (TPNW). It is mind boggling hypocrisy.

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It is not a question of if, but when and where nuclear weapons will again be used.

Too many belligerent adversaries possess such weapons,; and an over populated planet with finite resources is edging ever closer to the breaking point of no return.

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The horrors of humanity.

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The victims of Japanese war crimes, to begin with.

Representatives from 93 nations and the European Union are expected to attend this year's peace ceremony

Nagoya canceled an exhibit on comfort women. These representatives should refuse to attend this ceremony unless the exhibit is held. The role of Japan in the war is minimized by only highlighting the Japanese casualties in Hiroshima.

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Not all people in the war would have supported the dropping of two atomic bombs on civilians. In itself a war crime. But it does change the horrors of the IJA in the Pacific War.

"“If we’d lost the war, we’d all have been prosecuted as war criminals.” So said Curtis LeMay after America obliterated Hiroshima and Nagasaki with two atomic bombs in August 1945."

Don't let the victors define morality – Hiroshima was always indefensible

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/09/dont-let-the-victors-define-morality-hiroshima-was-always-indefensible

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Hiroshima was a military target, with factories making munitions for war. Large reservists units were training daily for the impending land invasion.

Many of the Japanese Imperial military members involved in the invasion of Manchuria were from Hiroshima.

Germany built the Holocaust Memorial, Where in Japan are the memorials to foreign victims of the Japanese Empire?

Even a small art exhibit dedicated to the comfort women was cancelled.

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Will they all be quarantining and subject to testing and monitoring by app or is that just for us proles?

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KentarogaijinToday  01:59 am JST

Any country that possesses nuclear weapons, regardless of its ideology or politics, must be considered a terrorist country and a threat to humanity.

Yeah--so the 100 million people killed under communist China, Russia, Cambodia, Vietnam, and North Korea regimes take a backseat to the handful of people who died from nuclear attacks in a belligerent country during wartime.

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Hiroshima was a military target, with factories making munitions for war. Large reservists units were training daily for the impending land invasion.

Many of the Japanese Imperial military members involved in the invasion of Manchuria were from Hiroshima.

Nothing justifies having evaporated a city full of innocent people, that's the excuse of every war-loving loser .. Bark, bark..

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Yeah--so the 100 million people killed under communist China, Russia, Cambodia, Vietnam, and North Korea regimes take a backseat to the handful of people who died from nuclear attacks in a belligerent country during wartime.

So it's ok to do a horrendous wrong against some people because a horrendous wrong was done against another group of people?

I don't think that justification works.

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StrangerlandToday  02:19 am JST

So it's ok to do a horrendous wrong against some people because a horrendous wrong was done against another group of people?

Who defines horrendous wrong? And what is a country that is attacked supposed to do? Let it be invaded, and let its citizens be killed? That would be a horrendous wrong. Killed by a bullet in war, killed by a bomb--result is the same.

Maybe starting the war in the first place is the only horrendous wrong that should be the focus of any commemorative events.

Is there a peace museum in Japan commemorating the victims of the Nanking Massacre? I guess that wrong wasn't horrendous enough.

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Who defines horrendous wrong?

Killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians?

I do. Non-sociopaths do. Society does.

You don't?

Maybe starting the war in the first place is the only horrendous wrong that should be the focus of any commemorative events.

Why should it be the only one? I condemn that one as well. I don't agree with the murder of tens of thousands of innocent civilians. But it's also Japan's own fault for starting a war - their government sold out the lives of their people to satisfy the lust for power by the elites of the time.

But that doesn't somehow mean that the murder of tens of thousands of innocent civilians is somehow excused. It's one of the worst acts ever perpetuated on any humans by other humans. These people were going about their daily lives, and had the skin ripped from their bones, unless they were lucky enough to be vaporized before they could even realize what was happening.

Maybe you think that's ok. I never will.

Neither was starting the war.

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The people were not innocent victims. They were working in munitions factories. They were reservists preparing for invasions. They were future soldiers.

Yes women and children and men going to work in Hiroshima, you know, daily life stuff, were not innocent, they were guilty of future crimes and the crimes of others with whom they chose to be born into the same country with.

Because that makes sense in the real world, right?

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My history book says Japan and Germany were the belligerents. So do the texts in Canada, the UK, New Zealand, Australia, and every South East Asian country, among a few.

Yes yes, I understand you want to redirect the conversation away from American incompetence and failures and try to pretend that other countries have equal culpability.

I understand, I mean, I'm embarrassed about my home nation too, and it took me a number of years away from it to be able to condemn it as equally as others do. I can see you're not there yet, and you still need to assuage your ego by pretending that your countries failures are somehow justified by other nations' failures.

I guess if it makes you feel better about yourself, pretending your country has no responsibility is justified, right? I mean, I'm sure the Afghanis and Iraqis will forgive the US out of compassion for how difficult it must be for Americans to accept their nation's failures.

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And ALL those countries are grateful to the US for saving them from communist and fascism.

What? Please show me something by any of these countries that shows they even think America saved them from Communism and Facism, much less thanks them for it.

I've lived in over half those countries, I don't ever remember seeing or hearing any acknolwegement or thanks to the Americans for any of that.

I think you got lied to in your bubble again. You Americans are prone to that - you only partake in half the news in your own nation, and that's in a nation where ALL the news is messed up.

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Atomic bombings and the American use of Agent Orange in Vietnam. The atomic bombings killed more civilians than soldiers. People melted into the ground. A bullet to the head would have been kinder. Survivors with horrendous injuries had to deal with for a lifetime. Agent Orange produced thousands of deformed babies.

The purpose of the memorial is to try and ensure the atomic bombing never happen again. And to seek the end of all atomic weapons.

America was the only country with an atomic bomb and the only country to ever use them.

And ALL those countries are grateful to the US for saving them from communist and fascism.

Someone been reading a comic book instead of a history book.

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But that doesn't somehow mean that the murder of tens of thousands of innocent civilians is somehow excused. It's one of the worst acts ever perpetuated on any humans by other humans.

And yet I've heard from various Japanese people who lived through the war that the bombings came as a kind of relief. My mother-in-law is one of them. It was a terrible event, but I think it was understandable. I'm not sure it can be compared to subsequent American actions in Vietnam.

Although in addition to a trip to Hiroshima, a circuit on the Yamanote line to remember the equally horrific Tokyo fire bombings might be equally appropriate.

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