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Asian security experts say Japan vital for shoring up rules-based international order

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shoring up a rules-based international order being challenged by countries such as China and Russia.

The "rules based order" is full of cheat codes for the G7 oligarchs and they are loath for competing oligarchs to get a cut of the action.

The populace are just bystanders suffering from the consequences (war, inflation).

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The Western allies are all in support of Japan playing a greater role in the region's security in the face of today's threats. South Korea needs to get over it's "issue" with Japan if it wants to join the club. Pres Yoon knows this and that there is really nothing more than Japan can do. Considering the manner in which Moon treated Japan as "the enemy" instead of NK, it's a miracle that they would even listen.

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Ossan, Japan cannot protect their island from Russia,South Korea has battle ready train army of 500000 people under arm,Japan delusional of grandeur

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I always laugh at “rules based international order” it is a bunch of colonialist countries with a population of 880 million out of an international world of nearly 8 billion.

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Does Kishida-san hit the tanning salon or what ?

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it is a bunch of colonialist countries with a population of 880 million out of an international world of nearly 8 billion.

Indeed, a tiny minority that enjoys levels of prosperity, opportunity, freedom, education, and security about a million times greater than those living under tyranny, oppression and authoritarianism.

How dare the former be so happy and successful!

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What are "the rules" and who made them?

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I always laugh at “rules based international order” it is a bunch of colonialist countries with a population of 880 million out of an international world of nearly 8 billion.

But everything done in the name of Russian imperialism you are totally fine with, right?

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Indeed, a tiny minority that enjoys levels of prosperity, opportunity, freedom, education, and security about a million times greater than those living under tyranny, oppression and authoritarianism.

Is this sarcasm? What % of the population in G7 countries enjoy "prosperity" and is that number rising or falling?

"Opportunity and freedom" are so vague as to be meaningless rhetoric.

As for education, in Japan it's pretty good. Not as good as Russia or Hong Kong (Mainland China doesn't release any data but safe to say, it's better than in the G7, possibly apart from Japan). USA, Canada, UK, France, Italy are way, way below Russia.

How dare the former be so happy and successful!

Happy and successful? Most of western Europe is in open revolt right now. That has been the case in USA for about 5 years. In Canada that was the case until the God Emperor of Canada, Trudeau locked froze the bank accounts and locked up 100s of peaceful protestors. Talk about "freedom".

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YrralToday  07:29 am JST

Ossan, Japan cannot protect their island from Russia,South Korea has battle ready train army of 500000 people under arm,Japan delusional of grandeur

South Korea certainly can not defend themselves from North Korea, Russia lor China without the United States. That's why they have a securty alliance. You SKoreans are "delusional of grandeur".

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Indeed, a tiny minority that enjoys levels of prosperity, opportunity, freedom, education, and security about a million times greater than those living under tyranny, oppression and authoritarianism.

you do know who caused climate change/global warming, has smashed the Middle East, pedals weapons for profit all over the world, commits regime change, sanctions numerous countries so citizens starve and die, corruption, and their citizens usually have a choice of two leaders, who most people vote for the one they don’t hate the most?

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Park said turning ties around will depend on whether Kishida can show a flexible stance on the issue of compensation for requisitioned Korean workers now that South Korea has launched a government-private consultative body in an effort to address the row.

It's irrelevant to link the two separate domains. Kishida won't give a dime.

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Ossan,they been doing it for almost 60 years,they have a compotence army,that have American standard of professional military

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YrralToday  08:46 am JST

Ossan,they been doing it for almost 60 years,they have a compotence army,that have American standard of professional military

Go argue with someone who cares.

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Japan's political stability and leadership are vital for shoring up a rules-based international order being challenged by countries such as China and Russia.

It always amazes me when it isn't the USA or one of it's Allies doing the invasions, sponsoring coups ( more often than not putting a dictator in place) we suddenly talk about international Rules!

Where were those rules when they attacked Iraq, Syria, Kosovo, Chile, Vietnam, South Korea ( military rule) Grenada, Libya, Yemen, and I could go on all day!

This isn't whataboutism it is about hypocrisy.

Western nations have spent centuries invading and interfering in other countries but are now trying to take the moral high ground when it isn't them.

Why do we have the government now in power in Iran? Because the USA arranged a coup against the elected government putting a dictator in place, causing a backlash years later.

This has been a thing repeated over and over in South and Central America, Africa, Asia now suddenly we need "rules based international order".

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JeffLee

Today 07:44 am JST

it is a bunch of colonialist countries with a population of 880 million out of an international world of nearly 8 billion.

> Indeed, a tiny minority that enjoys levels of prosperity, opportunity, freedom, education, and security about a million times greater than those living under tyranny, oppression and authoritarianism.

> How dare the former be so happy and successful

And a better example of western superiority complex I cannot find.

I imagine you like most Americans think only the USA and a few white countries have Democracy and freedom.

Sorry to point out a simple fact, you aren't!

India 1.3 billion people live in the world's largest Democracy, despite the publicity by western news most of South and Central America are elected Democracies as is Africa, much for Asia.

The problem is poverty and that is because of present and past exploitation by the so-called Democracies of the of the USA and Europe, if the elected government doesn't do what they want then these "Democracies" arrange for a "change" in government ( AKA coup d'état) ( see Chile, Iran, etc . )

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What goes around - comes around. Japan acted this way during WW II and now, its payback for China. The only difference, Japan had the capital and resources back then when China had nothing to counterpart with.

Fast-forwarding...I do, however, agree with Japan in their self-defense forces upgrade facing the world-at-large.

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Ossan, Japan is the defenseless tiger,most Americans do not want American service to die for them,and especially they do not want them to die for paper tigers

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Rules-based, or imposed agenda.

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Funny, I don't remember hearing much about this "Rules-based international order" in 2002-2003 when the US and UK were teeing off against Iraq and Afghanistan. In fact, if I remember, the UN's blessing wasn't even required, according to the Anglos...

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I don't think you need such political analysis to understand his popularity abroad. An easy-to-pronounce name, a smiling and personable face, and a jovial personality (or so it seems) can endear you.

I also think that he has managed to at least slow down the decline, that this country is facing its misfortune, that there is no chance of a solution in the future because it will not be able to escape the captivity of its severe cultural traditions.

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There is growing support for a greater Japanese security role in the Indo-Pacific

I find that extremely difficult to believe !

77 years passes and now the Asia-Pacific will welcome Japan renouncing it's pacifist constitution ?

The only reason Japan hasn't been involved in a conflict is because of article 9

The truth is Japan cant even watch Abe's back from being assassinated with it's own domestic security let alone providing security for the Indo-Pacific region.

When i comes to Japanese contingency planning for disaster response whether its tour boat , a nuclear disaster ,a boating accident or a burning building or planning for war iam sorry to say incompetence and lack of forward thinking is a serious issue in Japan.

I support Japan being able to defend itself independently but however Japan should definitely not be a leader of security for the Asia-Pacific.

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Western nations have spent centuries invading and interfering in other countries but now are trying to take the moral high ground when it isn't them

very correct and well said !

and exactly how many countries did Japan invade during its expansion of Asia-Pacific agenda ?

It wasn't that long ago.

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Of those who express distrust toward China -- which, however, is seen as the most influential economic power in the region -- 49.6 percent fear Beijing could use economic and military power to threaten their country's interest and sovereignty, according to the latest State of Southeast Asia survey.

Economic leverage 100%

Military 100% if Taiwan declares. 0% otherwise.

Australia can attest to the former. Aside from clearing its backlog of stranded Australian coal, don't expect Beijing to buy more soon.

China has quite a large supply from Russia, who has both coking coal & metallurgical coal. They are not keen on importing coal from a country like Australia who is literally advocating their isolation.

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I always laugh at “rules based international order” it is a bunch of colonialist countries with a population of 880 million out of an international world of nearly 8 billion.

This is merely about who makes the rules. In authoritarian states, it’s straight forward: we make the rules. You obey.

In western democracies, they possess the same authority and make the rules but they have to package and sell it as the rules that everyone makes. It’s everyone’s choice, the so called international based order.

Why are they so afraid of being undemocratic? Just because there lived bad kings centuries ago? The monarchy is just replaced by a group of despots.

At least the dictator faces responsibility. The oligarchs just hide behind their setup.

Call a spade a spade and stop pretending.

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Japan, often does not follow it's own rules.

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Japan's embrace of the term "rule-based" says a lot about the subordinate position this country is in vis-a-vis the US. Most Japanese people unquestioningly accept this narrative. US occupation is still alive and well here.

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Japan has given up on own advanced fighter program and will be joining UK's Tempest program instead. This is mostly due to lack of funds and technology(especially software) on Japan's part. The unit volume of 90 didn't justify Japan going alone either.

So only three countries have managed to build and mass produce 5th gen fighters; the US, China, and Korea.

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/exclusive-britain-japan-aim-merge-tempest-f-x-fighter-programmes-sources-2022-07-14/

EXCLUSIVE Britain and Japan aim to merge Tempest and F-X fighter programmes-sources

TOKYO/LONDON, July 14 (Reuters) - Britain and Japan are close to an agreement to merge their next-generation Tempest and F-X fighter jet programmes, with the two countries aiming for a deal on a new joint project by year-end, three sources told Reuters.

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@Antiquesaving

Western nations have spent centuries invading....

Whereas the Ottomans, the Mongols, the Arabs, the Soviet Union, the Imperial Japanese and scores of others did not?

The West is wealthy, successful and influential today because it invented the modern the world.

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If every country had a war-renouncing provision in its constitution like Article 9 of the Japanese constitution and were honest enough to pursue its spirit, the world would be a much better place than now: peaceful, altruistic and non-jingoistic.

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I propose a campaign be started right then and there to propagate the spirit of Article 9 to the world.

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FYI. The official English translation of Article 9 of the Japanese constitution is as follows:

ARTICLE 9. (1) Aspiring sincerely to an international peace based on justice and order, the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes.

(2) In order to accomplish the aim of the preceding paragraph, land, sea, and air forces, as well as other war potential, will never be sustained. The right of belligerency of the state will not be recognized

The "land, sea, and air forces" in the English translation above are written as the "Army, Navy and Air Force" in Japanese.

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