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Asia security may be at risk if Japan-S Korea ties sour again

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NOT at all, this whole security drama is nothing but a HOAX.

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The will be but there is no preventing South Korea from returning to its baseline.

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All the hoopla about how Yoon + Kishida was a formula for success have been torpedoed by the reality of their lame duck status.

Basically as usual they said a lot but delivered little.

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In a related news, the forced laborer foundation has declares it has run out of funds and has pleaded with Kishida to allow Japanese corporations to fund it as Japanese businesses are the last viable source of funding.

No Korean Corporation will fund it due to their fear of the opposition Democratic party and the next president apparant Lee Jae Myong, which is 8 seats short of the absolute majority(66%) and has threatened to prosecute any corporation that contributed to Yoon's forced laborer foundation fund when they take back the presidency, so not a dime of Korean corporate money was contributed to the fund in spite of Yoon’s plea.

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The future of SK/JPN relations depends mostly on the South Korean public's willingness and ability to recognize the benefits of being allied with Japan. The past few decades of rampant anti-Japan education and politics has produced nothing but ill will with nothing of constructive value to show for it. There will always remain a minority in South Korea who make anything Anti-JPN their raison d'etre, but there are also plenty of South Koreans who have a favorable view of Japan.

"The number of Korean visitors to Japan last month reached more than 661,200, a record high in April, as Korea cemented its position as the top source of foreign tourists to Japan."

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/culture/2024/05/135_374728.html

This is not new. South Korean visitor numbers to Jaopan have always been high, excluding only the Covid years.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/982200/japan-number-south-korean-tourists-by-month/

The drawbacks to the South Korean claims and disputes over past historical events going back to WWII, is that because they are over 80 years old, substantiation and renumeration become difficult. Consequently they have become "emotion driven" fueling hatred and bias to make up for that shortage. But more importantly they diminish the liklihood of of resolving current existing disputes which are far more important to both South Korea and Japan today,

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South Korea has a choice. Finally, bury the past and forge on with its democratic cousin Japan, or cosy up and then get consumed by its aggresive wanna be Big Brother China. It really is that simple.

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They are sure to be soured again as Yoon to be arrested,prosecuted and jailed after scandals unearthed when he is going to step down like previous South Korean presidents brought to trial. Right now the best fate former president is "Moon JaeIn" his pro-China and friendly with North Korea is still renowned by people !

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The ball really is in South Korea's court.

With their birth rate collapsing in a manner that makes Japan's seem positively robust in comparison, their long term security is in serious jeopardy. In Japan the low birth rate means fewer workers at Lawson. In South Korea it means fewer soldiers to man the border with North Korea. And Japan's (1.3) is almost twice what South Korea's is (0.68).

This whole "Japan = Bad no matter what" ideology that is a constant presence in South Korean politics is fast becoming a kind of stupid luxury item that country can no longer afford. Japan is a friendly country with a governance system, economy and culture based on the same set of values. Constantly spurring it over ancient historical grievances makes no bloody sense. If they don't want to end up being ruled by Pyongyang or Beijing then they are going to have to bite the damn bullet and put stuff that happened a century ago behind them.

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Politicians Japan/Korea must first and foremost, both current governments, yes South Korean opposition parties find a conscientious means, the political will, to face the future than dwelling festering on poisonous toxic historic grievances.

All parries must bring the next generation on board, persuade them to move, step out from behind the statues of comfort women.

Japan its people reach out through education, accept such horrors need to be exorcized away from political interference.

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omoyuki Tachikawa? We seem to be missing a T

Moderator: Thank you. It has been corrected.

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If there is a threat to Asian security, it is China's movements, not Japan-South Korea relations.

In the first place, it is correct that Korea did not become a Japanese colony, but was annexed by treaty and became a part of Japan. This was a fact acknowledged even by the United Nations at the time.

In South Korea, where education has been based on historical revisionism from the beginning, it is natural that anti-Japanese sentiment will increase because everything is taught that Japan is to blame.

Currently, many tourists from South Korea are coming to Japan, and if anything happens, they will immediately start the No Japan movement. They are not traveling to Japan for the sake of friendship between Japan and Korea, but simply to show off to others in Korea.

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Agent_NeoToday  07:13 pm JST

In the first place, it is correct that Korea did not become a Japanese colony, but was annexed by treaty and became a part of Japan. This was a fact acknowledged even by the United Nations at the time.

Are you aware that the United Nations was formed in 1945? Even it's predecessor the League of Nations was not founded until 1920. The annexation was in 1910.

However, the annexation of Korea in 1910 received no objection at the time from the United States inaccordance with the Tast-Katsura Agreement of 1905, or from the United Kingdom which maintained an alliance with Japan from 1902 until 1922.

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Asia security may be at risk if Japan-S Korea ties sour again

Well, I guess we are stuck with the LDP forever, then.

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Misinformation that China, Russia and NK is putting out, they know if they can drive a wedge between the two they are pretty much on their way to achieving their goal. China has a bone to pick with everyone in land dispute, India, Russia, Japan, you name it. China is the slimy needle in that hay stack.

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There is no reason why building cotacts by both nations outside the direct politicical arena cant help the nations remain close, and build a level of trust not effected by new leaders on either side. What must be forefront of thinking by both is they are stronger together, so finding the common ground to base better relations will bring benefits to both in dealing with China and North Korea.

A different but in some ways similar dynamic between New Zealand and Australia comes to mind. they sometimes dissagree on issues but still find a way to work together strongly on many other important areas. for the greater good of both.

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@OssanAmerica

It seems that he misunderstood the year in which the United Nations was founded.

Thank you for the correction.

Whenever I write this, it gets deleted, but Koreans always claim that the Japan-Korea Annexation Treaty is illegal, but unfortunately no flaws under international law have ever been found.

Despite this, it is clearly strange to write that Japan was colonized even in textbooks.

Moreover, despite the harsh plunder by the Japanese military, the population has doubled in the 35 years of Japanese rule.

I'd like to hear how you explain this contradiction.

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The only risk in Asia is the warmongering interventionism of US in the region..

Just trying to elaborate a war only to please its geopolitical whims, keep it's decadent hegemony and sell weapons to save its economy..

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TokyoLivingToday 02:42 am JST

The only risk in Asia is the warmongering interventionism of US in the region..

Just trying to elaborate a war only to please its geopolitical whims, keep it's decadent hegemony and sell weapons to save its economy..

Criminal China is what everyone is arming against.

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Agent_NeoMay 28  11:50 pm JST

@OssanAmerica

Whenever I write this, it gets deleted, but Koreans always claim that the Japan-Korea Annexation Treaty is illegal, but unfortunately no flaws under international law have ever been found.

Despite this, it is clearly strange to write that Japan was colonized even in textbooks.

There is considerable overlap in what defines Annexation and Colonization, with the former having emphasis on the legal manner of implementation. In the case of Korea in 1910, I don't consider that difference to be very significant. Under Japanese annexation, many aspects of colonization were implemented, such as the application of Japanese laws, the immigration of Japanese to Korea. But the reverse is true in that because Korea was annexed and Koreans were given Japanese citizenship a great many emmigrated to Japan where there were better economic opportunities.

What is wrong however, is the frequnt use of the term "Invaded" to describe the annexation. There was no invasion, no war or battles between Japan and Korea leading up to the annexation. Which in itself could not have happened without some Koreans supporting it while some Koreans were against it. Those who supported it comprised mostly of the wealthy who saw economic opportunity, those who saw it as away to modernize Korea and those who preferred it over Chinese domination. But all these Koreans hacve become disowned as "collaborators" under the present Korean narrative.

Moreover, despite the harsh plunder by the Japanese military, the population has doubled in the 35 years of Japanese rule. I'd like to hear how you explain this contradiction.

It is very simple. Under Korean anti-JPN education, the benefits that were gained by Korea under the annexation are completely ignored or denied, while only the negative aspects are stressed.

Despite being under the control of Japan for 35 years, as you correctly point out, the lifespan of the average Korean increased, through better hygene, nutrition, medical care all brought about by Japan building roads, rails, hospitals, schools, etc. In other words, Japan did to Korea what they themselves had done just 50 years earlier. Until the annexation girls in Korea were not even permitted to go to school. Korea was a backwards underdeveloped country bound by Confucian principles existing for thousnds of years in the shadow of the Chinese dynasties. It was Japan which forced the Qing Dynasty to recognize Korea's sovereignty after defeating them in the 1894/95 Sino-Japanese War.

These are just some of the historical facts that some Koreans ignore or deny, while stressing the harm the annexation caused to Korea.

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Qing China never claimed sovereignty over Korea. If we are using western terms the best world would be suzerainty.

Bigger picture, why even argue about these details especially as an American? What Japan did to Korea is tragic and the echos reverberate until today. 完

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Give Yoon a Nobel Prize for Peace already.

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Suzerainty is "control over another country". Recognizing the sovereignty of that country is giving up that suzerainty. The Treaty of Shimonoseki (1895) used western terms as all diplomatic documents with foreign governments after the Meiji Restoration (1868),

What Japan did to Korea during 35 years of colonial rule was nothing. India was a British colony for 89 years. Indonesia was a Dutch colony for 125 years. And if you want to see what "Brutal" really means, see what Belgium did to their Congolese colonial subjects during their 52 years of control.

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/belgiums-colonial-rule-congo-what-happened-next-2022-06-08/#:~:text=Under%20the%20mantle%20of%20propagating,failing%20to%20deliver%20harvest%20quotas.

As many as 10 million people are estimated to have died in Congo from killings, famine and disease between 1885 and 1908 after Belgian's King Leopold II declared the vast territory his personal property.

-Severed hands became the infamous symbol of the colonial state where officials brutally maimed those failing to deliver harvest quotas.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/africa/belgian-colonial-atrocities-still-haunt-congolese/2499958

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socrateosToday 12:03 pm JST

Give Yoon a Nobel Prize for Peace already.

Would actually be a good idea to show what the rest of the world thinks of their anti-Japan nutters.

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The Korean Peninsula gained independence from the Qing Dynasty through the Treaty of Shimonoseki. This is a fact.

The first article of the Treaty of Shimonoseki states that the Qing Dynasty recognizes Korea as a "completely independent and self-governing country." In other words, the Qing Dynasty recognizes Korea's independence (recognizes the renunciation of suzerainty).

The reason why Japan prioritized Korea's independence above all else was because at the time, most countries in Asia were colonies of Western powers and were looking for allies. However, after independence, the Korean dynasty curryed favor with China and Russia and was unable to run the country properly.

Another problem was the assassination of the first Prime Minister, Ito Hirobumi, who opposed the annexation of the Korean Peninsula, by a Korean who worshipped the Emperor.

The annexation of Korea followed this trend, and most Koreans at that time did not start a movement for independence from Japan. (Except for a small number of aristocrats who were deprived of their benefits)

It is not pointless to discuss how absurd the exploitation by the Japanese military that Koreans have claimed so far is.

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Speaking of Asian security,

A Chinese national is on trial in South Korea for allegedly smuggling microchip technology to China. Officials said the suspect once worked for chipmaker SK Hynix before taking a job at Chinese telecom giant Huawei.

The china-nese don't really want any co-operation between Japan and South Korea. They want to divide and conquer.

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