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China, India, Russia seek influence through vaccine diplomacy

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There were initially concerns over the vaccine's safety and quality because it was quickly approved in Russia after a second-phase clinical study.

But a study based on data from a phase three clinical trial that was published in the British medical journal Lancet on Feb 2 showed the vaccine was 91.6 percent effective in protecting against symptomatic illness.

Each Sputnik shot costs $10 or less, or less than half that of the U.S. peers, according to the investment fund.

Dig up the threads from October to see all the endless Russia-bashing when Sputnik V was first announced.

They were all wrong as usual.

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This whole vaccination issue is has officially become too political.

If you are my ally,you get my vaccine.

Meanwhile,some "developed"countries have paid in advance to get almost all the vaccines including extra doses in disregard of the rest of the other countries yet they are not even the manufacturers.This is a clear manifestation of selfishness.

If this pandemic is not handled equally globally,it will haunt humanity for a very long time.

This will be a lesson,who are your friends.

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I like how the article just minorly mentions Europe.

The reality is that the EU, UK and USA hoarded Vaccine, proof is Germany only used 15 % of it's AZ Vaccine then left the rest to rot and got Pfizer doses instead.

This left non EU members with little or nothing,

Balkan countries turned to China and Russia both promptly supplying them, the same thing with Central and South America.

So suddenly Serbia, Chile, Turkey that once had no Vaccine went from 0% vaccinated to top countries, surpassing all EU countries, the UK and USA in percentage of their populations vaccinated. All in about a month.

Amazing how fast it goes when a country has Vaccine.

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If you are my ally,you get my vaccine.

Meanwhile,some "developed"countries have paid in advance to get almost all the vaccines including extra doses in disregard of the rest of the other countries

Not sure what news you have been reading, but friend or not few of the developed countries outside the EU, USA and UK have seen much of the vaccine they paid for.

Canada brought hundreds of millions of doses, why? Because the USA blocked it originally orders, so it contracted with The EU branch of the companies oops blocked again.

Paid $400 million to Covax nothing,

Japan, South Korea, Serbia, Albania, Turkey, etc... All the same.

EU says pay more buy more and we will give you Vaccine, nothing but a trickle.

Meanwhile Germany and others don't like the AZ they got so they didn't use it left it to rot and got more Pfizer to use instead.

It is and was all a EU and Vaccine maker scam to get more money from non EU countries.

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When China and Russia provide vaccines to countries in need, it's done for selfish, nefarious reasons, but when the US bombs and destroys a country, it's done out of the goodness of their heart.

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joey stalinToday 09:25 am JST

When China and Russia provide vaccines to countries in need, it's done for selfish, nefarious reasons, but when the US bombs and destroys a country, it's done out of the goodness of their heart.

Of course, how dare country X move its borers so close to our military bases!

And the Western MSM will spin like crazy - just check the recent reporting by the BBC about the Biden bombing of Syria.

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Dig up the threads from October to see all the endless Russia-bashing when Sputnik V was first announced.

They were all wrong as usual.

The lancet is just reporting the study as submitted to them. 91% has no relation to any other vaccine because 1) They didn't run their test against any other vaccines. 2) The study data showed they have an extremely low participation of elderly people in the study. Only about 10% where in the critical 65 and older age group. 3) And this is a gripe I have about several vaccines, not just sputnik. They did not publish data about if it reduced how much virus was being spread. (i.e. taking a swab of the nose and seeing how much virus turned up).

Be that as it may, it likely will perform similar to the J&J vaccine. Which is based on similar technology and has a similar cost. And frankly, if it wasn't for how well the mRNA vaccines performed we'd be extremely happy that a vaccine performed at 70% across the board. That's historically pretty typical and has been used to eradicate other viruses in the past.

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China, India and Russia are stepping up efforts to expand their influence by providing coronavirus vaccines to developing and middle-income countries, while advanced countries scramble to secure doses of U.S.- and European-made vaccines for their own citizens."

So whats wrong with that...? Should the "developing and middle income countries " reject the Chinese, Indian and Russian options in favor of waiting for a "friendly Western democracy vaccines" despite their supply delays and let their populations continue to get sick and die in the meanwhile?...Are we all supposed to dislike anything coming from Russia, China etc because our "democratic" politicians and press tells us so? Pathetic.

Antiquesaving....good info.

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Be that as it may, it likely will perform similar to the J&J vaccine

No actually Sputnik V in EU studies has far out performed j&j at 90% and is far more effective on variants.

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I wonder what the Indian vaccines are like. The government asked for a small local trial from Pfizer and they just walked off...? Weird

https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-india-pfizer-idUSKBN2A50GE

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Don’t trust the Indian ones so far, but at least Russia and China aren’t blackmailing rich countries to fill the pockets of big Pharma

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I heard that they were using people as guinea pigs in trials in India without their knowledge and paying them. Sure, if you want to, but shouldn't you be told first?

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No actually Sputnik V in EU studies has far out performed j&j at 90% and is far more effective on variants.

That's not how science works. Unless you test the same vaccines against the same group at the same time in the same study you cannot say one performed better than another. You're introducing too many other factors otherwise.

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