Global South key for G7 to counter Russia and China, despite challenges

FYI, GLOBAL SOUTHS HATES nothing more than uncontrolled Central Banking Money Printing fueling, global inflation AND starvation.

But winning the backing of such countries, many of which have not sided with the United States and its allies over Russia's war in Ukraine.

Many have not sided with the US? Actually it's NOT A SINGLE ONE!

Global South's not big fans of market collusion regarding resources and exploitation of THEIR resources by outsiders.

Unprecedented Oil sales from US strategic reserve by present US admiration, DUMPING, cost OPEC and members of global south to lose untold billions, pushing them into China's arms naturally, they're biggest 'honest' buyer,

With China brokering an end to the war in Yemen world media needs to praise this instead of keeping quiet! If it bears fruit it will be brilliant for the region.

"The G7, which groups Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the United States, plus the European Union, must also face the reality that its global economic significance is declining....." The Brits are the main ones in decline. Joke having them in the G7 with all the shooting themselves in the foot that they have done in the last 5 years.

Rich nations do need to do more to sway the "Global South," and that starts by listening to them, then helping them by providing what they, not the G7, need. I think Japanese diplomacy is very welcome, and underrated, in such situations - like a lot of Japanese stuff, it's quiet but very effective. For example, developing countries don't welcome the US's "you need to take sides" high-handed attitude, but what they do respond to is assistance targeted in the areas they need. In this, efforts such as JICA's ODA are vital (e.g. climate change mitigation efforts for Pacific states). JICA really is the jewel in the crown of Japanese foreign policy and other countries could learn a lot from it.

Style matters but it's market access and technology that matters far more these days. Like it not, we're in a multi polar world, so these counties will try to play both sides to enhance their especially economic interests.

Naturally, China's immediate neighbors might have different 'calculus', that would be PRUDENT!!!

For some countries in the Global South, such as India, the most favorable situation is to "maintain ties with the U.S.-led camp and the China-Russia bloc, to enjoy the benefits of both sides as much as possible

India does not want to maintain ties with the China-Russia bloc. It wants to maintain and will continue to maintain ties with Russia so that Russia does not end up becoming a vassal state of China.

As far as US-led camp is concerned, India has a soft corner for Japan but with the rest of the West (Japan is not really the West but is still a part of the Western bloc), its purely business.

And the G7 should come down from their high horse and stop talking down to the Global South, because the hypocrisy of the West is well understood in most nations of the Global South.

increasing need to cooperate with developing countries in the Global South

the global south hates G7 because they are all ex slavery and colonial states.

One must understand colonialism exists today, it's called technology, especially that controlling infrastructure, media, workplace, communications, commerce etc.

AI's NOT new folks, been building for MANY DECADES

Look at the maps searched by that word.

Global South = Ex colonies of Powers

Exceptions= South Korea and Taiwan once ruled by Japan, Australia and New Zealand still being ruled by Ex Powers.

One must understand colonialism exists today, it's called technology, especially that controlling infrastructure, media, workplace, communications, commerce etc.

So, the same as it has always, sorry ALWAYS been? Need CAPS in this thread apparently.

Any other CUTTING EDGE news?

AI drawing maps is no less biased than the maps everyone uses everyday.

If it wasn’t for the West none of these “southern” countries would even have the option make a stand against Russia and China which are dictatorships.

I find amusing that some posters here are bashing the west for it’s past colonialism,but in human history all empires conquered.

Even non Western ones like the ancient Egyptians,the Persians,Mongols and even the Japanese.

At least European and Western nations brought civilization and progress.

If this post should be bashing the West then I wonder why most of these people want to come inside our borders to make a better life and don’t try to run to Russia or China.

The West is not perfect but at least you can say your opinion,even raise your voice and insult them.

Try to do the same in these non western “paradises”

Hypocrisy as it’s best.

At least European and Western nations brought civilization and progress.

This is exactly what I mean when I say that these nations and some people in these nations should get down from their high horse.

The assumption being that the Global South was uncivilized and needed colonization to become civilized. The East had a thriving culture and civilization since the time Alexander the Great set out to conquer these lands.

If this post should be bashing the West then I wonder why most of these people want to come inside our borders to make a better life

Because the West is rich, and there are various factors why the West became rich out of which exploitation of colonies played some part.

At least European and Western nations brought civilization and progress.

Yet They are still defined as Global South unlike South Korea and Taiwan both of which were ruled by Japan.

See the difference?

Global South is tired of Europe and US sanctions, interventionism and neo-colonialism..

Global South is with Russia and China and is in favor of a multipolar new world order..

Somehow I'm not convinced. Communal violence, Hindu Nationalism, Rural poverty, Illiteracy, Gender discrimination. Dear India, you have a lot on your plate. If anyone has access to the NY Times they are doing a number of large picture articles on India in recognition of it taking top rank in population.

India is seen as a country with the potential to become an economic superpower, overtaking Britain, its former colonial ruler, last year to become the world's fifth-largest economy. India is projected to surpass China to become the world's most populous nation sometime this year.

The "global south" is not any block's personal property. The US has clear advantages in South America while the dictator cabal has advantages in Africa. Nobody is going to own all of it although 141 countries did tell Russia to take a hike from Ukraine.

the global south hates G7 because they are all ex slavery and colonial states.

Not one of them has slaves and colonies today. I suspect they are far more concerned about the dictator cabal stealing their resources by bribing their corrupt governments today.

Many have not sided with the US? Actually it's NOT A SINGLE ONE!

141 countries told Russia to take a hike. I'm guessing 100 of them were non-OECD. You don't have to lie on this point as it has been measured.

India isn't helping matters, start there

You don't have to look farther than the "Second International Summit Africa Russia" to see how the global south views the G7 vision of a rules based order (the G7 deciding what is a rule for everyone else, and granting exceptions as it sees fit)

There's a reason why the term 'Neo-colonialism" was heard from every country, and is featured in both Russian and Chinese foreign policy statements.

Haha, be warned. They are too clever for you and only lured you to grab that ‘key’. And what’s happening as expected? G7 immediately develop salivation in mouth and jump for it like little Pavlov’s doggie, although there isn’t any key and never can or will be. Even in the impossible case if there were one, better throw it away quickly.

India has also been buying Russian oil, apparently lured by Moscow's offer of energy at a discounted price,

Not anymore, both China and India are buying now over the cap

This was reported in Indian news but I figure you people would want a western news confirmation

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/india-china-snap-up-russian-oil-april-above-price-cap-2023-04-18/

The G7, which groups Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the United States, plus the European Union, must also face the reality that its global economic significance is declining.

> The total share of the seven nations' gross domestic product in the world economy has dropped from over 50 percent in 1990 to about 30 percent in 2020, according to data from the International Monetary Fund.

This seems to be the conclusion Bloomberg came to:

Bloomberg estimates that the BRICS nations will contribute 32.1 percent of global growth, compared to the G7’s 29.9 percent, based on the most recent IMF figures.

> According to the Bloomberg analysis, the G7 and BRICS nations each contributed equally to global economic growth in 2020. The Western-led bloc’s performance, however, has since declined. The G7 is expected to make up just 27.8% percent of the global economy by 2028, while BRICS will make up 35 percent.

> “In total, 75 percent of global growth is expected to be concentrated in 20 countries and over half in the top four: China, India, the US, and Indonesia. While Group of Seven countries will comprise a smaller share, Germany, Japan, the United Kingdom, and France are seen among the top 10 contributors,” Bloomberg reports.

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The G7 sounds like the Roman Empire, The British Empire in the final years, desperately trying to hold on to power despite the corruption, the masses on the outside wanting their fair share and willing to take that share in anyway it can!

With China brokering an end to the war in Yemen world media needs to praise this instead of keeping quiet! If it bears fruit it will be brilliant for the region.

Peace is spreading through the Middle East like a wild fire. China is ready to broker a peace deal between Israel and Palestine. They are neutral therefore unemcumbered in negotiations.

The Chinese government’s foreign policy, at least officially, is non-interference and non-alignment regarding the affairs of other countries. 

Historically, while some leaders such as Sun Yat-sen were notably sympathetic towards Zionism and the idea of Israel, in the years since the Communist Party took over, China have aligned herself more with Arab countries and their causes throughout the Cold War.

That said, Israel is one of China’s closest trading partners today. The Jewish culture is more relatable in terms of the suffering endured.

The G7 sounds like the Roman Empire, The British Empire in the final years, desperately trying to hold on to power despite the corruption, the masses on the outside wanting their fair share and willing to take that share in anyway it can!

And yet the G7 didn't crash and burn its army on a country not even in the top 20 of military expenditures. And constantly has lower corruption ratings than the dictator cabal.

Peace is spreading through the Middle East like a wild fire. China is ready to broker a peace deal between Israel and Palestine. They are neutral therefore unemcumbered in negotiations.

I honestly hope you keep promoting this message. It makes me laugh and laugh.

That said, Israel is one of China’s closest trading partners today. The Jewish culture is more relatable in terms of the suffering endured.

I guess that explains the revanchism that will lead to China's downfall.

TaiwanIsNotChina

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The G7 sounds like the Roman Empire, The British Empire in the final years, desperately trying to hold on to power despite the corruption, the masses on the outside wanting their fair share and willing to take that share in anyway it can!

> And yet the G7 didn't crash and burn its army on a country not even in the top 20 of military expenditures. And constantly has lower corruption ratings than the dictator cabal.

And what does that have too do with the Facts the G7 are dropping in importance and in percentage of the world economy?

And perhaps if the leader of the group the USA didn't spent more on Military than just about every country in the world put together the economies would be better but instead they're pushing the other members of G7 to put even more money into their military.

And what does that have too do with the Facts the G7 are dropping in importance and in percentage of the world economy?

43% of global gdp purchasing power parity in the OECD. China was always going to find its way into middle income status when it finally threw off communism, so the trend is to be expected..

And perhaps if the leader of the group the USA didn't spent more on Military than just about every country in the world put together the economies would be better but instead they're pushing the other members of G7 to put even more money into their military.

You know who spends more per gdp? Russia. And China too if you could ever get an honest number out of them. The US has to fight an away game to throw back Russia and China, so I see nothing wrong with what we are spending. And the NATO countries, including those in the G7, absolutely need to be shamed to make their 2% targets.

The "global south" are gearing up unprecedented and coordinated efforts for dedollarsing. They are not watching from side, they are in the the game led by China.

China gives them infrastructures, what do the uncle Sam bring to the table, more lectures of democracy?

You know who spends more per gdp? Russia. And China.

Do you always invent information?

Russia between 2019 and 2022 spent 2.6 % of its GDP on the military

In the same period China 1.7%

And the USA 3.3%.

Again just because you claim something the facts are facts.

Oh and Russia is actually far lower just that in 2022 due to the war they spent 4%.

If you add in the military expenditures the USA has sent to help Ukraine, then the 2022 USA military budget jumps to 4.4% of the GDP.

Next time search for the facts first.

Cut the craps. Global South IS gigantic negative asset from Great-War over Heart Land which WEST (Mainly , Anglo Saxon) and Russia ( Slavic) must take care care of forever

Do you always invent information?

No, but you do.

Russia between 2019 and 2022 spent 2.6 % of its GDP on the military

In 2021, Russia spent 4.01% of its GDP on the military. China was 1.74%, but like I said, you can never trust anything out of there. Every company is partly state owned and so can magic things into the PLA without anyone knowing.

https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/mil_spend_gdp/

Again just because you claim something the facts are facts. Oh and Russia is actually far lower just that in 2022 due to the war they spent 4%.

Again, facts are facts and Russia spends 4% as you just admitted.

If you add in the military expenditures the USA has sent to help Ukraine, then the 2022 USA military budget jumps to 4.4% of the GDP.

Peace time is what matters.

Next time search for the facts first.

Right back at you, slick.