Indo-Pacific alignment against China still elusive despite Biden trip

Yeah, Biden can visit, but India has to live in Asia. Pretty different realisty.

Biden suggested that a firm global response to Russian President Vladimir Putin's "barbarism" in Ukraine may shape the future behavior of China

Taiwan is more important. Will not respond militarily against Ukraine but will for Taiwan.

Elusive? Where The Indo-Pacific alignment against China goes is nothing close to elusive. Nice choice of words.

The Indo Pacific region has plenty of dictatorships run by wannabe Putins. They will attempt to play the US and China for freebies the way Turkey does, but won't burn their bridges. They may need the protection of China or Russia's SC veto at the UN when they massacre some of their citizens. They also like the idea of cheap energy directly from Russia or via China.

Trust in the US has declined since it deserted Kurdish fighters and then the Afghan people. Domestically, America is uncomfortably close to civil conflict, which would reduce or remove it from global influence for a period of time - for Republican/Democrat think Avignon/Rome. Russia may be more of a player now that China's Covid Zero policy is undermining its economy.

When nations engage in self-harm (Brexit, Covid Zero, Culture Wars, Ukraine, resource restrictions), other nations grab what they can and hedge their bets.

quote: Will not respond militarily against Ukraine but will for Taiwan.

It's not about the relative importance, but the consequences. Russia can strike the US. China can only target US bases in Japan.

With Biden, America might as well stumble around blindfolded. He's offered NOTHING new but just upped everything Trump has done, and worse. And THIS is what America has to offer? Crazy to think that after him, USA can only offer Kamala and Nancy. Jesus Christ.

We also find out that the Russia collusion story was pushed by Hillary. Now she wants to turn Ukraine into Afghanistan II.

Everything he says his staff have apologies for.

the Asian NATO won’t happen. SK hates US, Japan will do anything to return to Edo Period, Taiwan enjoys massive trade with China, and SE Asian also hates USA unless there is lucrative kickbacks involved. India is a great ally of China and Russia.

he’s better to concentrate on EU, UK, and also forget about South America.

Russia can strike the US. China can only target US bases in Japan.

I'm not sure what you mean. China has a nuclear-capable intercontinental ballistic missile that can carry up to 10 independent nuclear warheads able to strike different targets.

Everything he says his staff have apologies for.

"For God's sake, this man cannot remain in power." - Biden on Putin

This just proves that other countries are jealous of China.

Asians aren't as pozzed as Western Europeans. They won't buy in so much to American cultural and military domination, and they remain fervently nationalistic and essentially tribal in outlook. They will get what they can from Americans, but they will never surrender themselves bodily and souls to DC the way Europeans have.

There's an interesting historical parallel here. China is relentlessly pushing its authoritarian model across the Pacific, reaching further and further into the neighborhoods of the US, Australia and New Zealand. Now that they've established a 'base' in the Solomons, the west if finally starting to take notice and push back. Similar dynamic played out in 1942 when Imperial Japanese forces pushed as far as to set up a base on Guadalcanal in the Solomons, right where Honiara is today, causing the US to finally hit back.

India is taking their own steps to deal with China and the ability of China to disrupt their part of the world. India has gotten approvals for Navy bases and restocking in a number of countries around the Indian Ocean, near all-important Straights and between the 2 Gulfs into the middle east. China has been building ports and Naval stations surrounding India for the last 15 yrs.

India has strengthened ties with Mongolia to the north of China, though what strategic value that actually brings isn't clear to me.

There isn't just 1 answer. Staying at arms length to the US provides India some options, but it also will disconnect them from military information gathered by the other countries.

I fear that India will be using Chinese network equipment everywhere and when China decides to start their war, all of that equipment - from huge routers, switches, down to all the cheap home routers will disable, making communications everywhere in India impossible except by bicycle messenger or train.

The US has an agreement to help Taiwan for when the mainland attempts to take it by force. India will sit by and watch, much like the US does when India and Pakistan fighting starts.

China leads Asia. It will eventually lead the world. That's what American cannot accept.

Yeah, Biden can visit, but India has to live in Asia. Pretty different realisty.

India seems to be far more gung ho about opposing China than even Biden.

Then again, Modi was closer to Putin than Trump ever was.

China leads Asia. It will eventually lead the world. That's what American cannot accept.

Most likely not, and if it does it will only be through economic guile. The rest of the world has no interest in actually facing a Chinese world, it's simply too alien a concept and too unapproachable.

There's nothing in the patrimony of thought in China that suggests any respect for the individual's sovereignty or any conception of human rights, only a "might is right" approach. Already the graduating classes of China are seeking to leave en masse because the grand experiment of lifting China out of poverty has played out, and they want to enjoy Western conceptions of individual liberty, autonomy, and happiness that Xi and co. don't want to provide.

Asians aren't as pozzed as Western Europeans. They won't buy in so much to American cultural and military domination, and they remain fervently nationalistic and essentially tribal in outlook. They will get what they can from Americans, but they will never surrender themselves bodily and souls to DC the way Europeans have.

Taiwan says otherwise. Given liberties, all Asian cultures will develop liberal tendencies. It's why their governments are so autocratic.

China leads Asia. It will eventually lead the world. That's what American cannot accept.

I don't mind if someone other than the US leads the world, but I want it to be a country with democratic ideals, a sense of fair play in business, freedom of speech, freedom to choose religion (or not) and where basic human rights are a core value and protected.

And rule of law actually works.

When China gains those things, I'll be happy for them to have world leadership. Until that happens, the non-Chinese parts of the world will not bow to the CCP.