Japan-China row on Fukushima water feared to persist, hinder dialogue

Japan-China row on Fukushima water feared to persist, hinder dialogue

So far Japan just doesn't have any idea, after 2011 that cripple reactor core being in constant overheat, what they do just cooling that using water, while cooling it using water in the process it will just add more contaminated water, until when?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-66610977

Since the disaster, power plant has been pumping in water to cool down the reactors' fuel rods. This means every day the plant produces contaminated water, which is stored in more than 1,000 tanks, enough to fill more than 500 Olympic swimming pools.

One tanks is equal to 232.5 million gallons or 880 million liters.

Japanese only want too talk ,when they get the short end of a stick ,it bad when you have to beg China to talk, a real time low

Japan-China row on Fukushima water feared to persist, hinder dialogue

Huh? Even the fishermen of Fukushima are having a "row" with the government and there is no dialogue between them, as the government doesnt care!

There is a simple solution. Stop releasing the water, find a better way to communicate intentions, and get China on board to assist with finding ways to do it safely.

Cooperation is key!

It is China alone that is acting like a D/B in defiance of science and world opinion. Not much to talk about until they decide to stop acting that way.

TheJ-Fishermen's argument is over lost income. Has nothing to do with China.

@yubaru

There is a simple solution. Stop releasing the water, find a better way to communicate intentions, and get China on board to assist with finding ways to do it safely.

What are you talking about?

https://japantoday.com/category/national/china-rejects-japan's-suggestion-of-joining-fukushima-water-framework

Gold MemberToday  08:28 am JST

Japan has also become more vocal in its concerns over China's growing pressure on Taiwan,

Japan getting involved in the Taiwan issue is making matters worse

Even Taiwan claims it's China

Taiwan does not claim to be part of the People's Republic of China.

Taiwan IS the Republic of China. It's not a claim.

Don't bother obfuscating the issue by confusing use of the term "China". And we really don't need any more CCP propagandists here.

It’s precisely actions like these that drives Asia into closer relations with the U.S. I constantly see China shills on this site saying that Japan needs to drop US support for closer relations with China, but how is that possible when China continues to bully and avoid cooperation with its neighbors?

If the PRC and Taiwan are the same country why do people from the PRC need a passport to go to Taiwan?

But Beijing's reaction had been negative.

As it always is.

Japan tries to resolve the issue in good faith - independent, international monitoring by the IAEA, and the water framework that WiseOneIn Kansai links above - but China isn't interested in fixing problems and finding out the truth: it just wants political leverage.

Well, as the Sophia professor mentions in the article, its aggressive actions simply reinforce the (already extremely strong, and growing) realization that working with the country is a total lost cause. As Australia did when China employed its usual economic coercion, countries should find other markets for their goods, as China cannot be relied upon in any way.

Ignore China, and move on to more welcoming, growing markets like India and South East Asia.

Gold MemberToday 08:28 am JST

Taiwanese government still claims to be the rightful government of all China

No, it does not. Both Tsai and William Lai have stated clearly that Taiwan is already an independent country. They do not claim to be the rightful government of all China:

https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2023/08/16/2003804803

“Taiwan is already a sovereign, independent country called the Republic of China,” Vice President Lai said, echoing a stance President Tsai Ing-wen (蔡英文) made public three years ago, in his first interview with an international media outlet since becoming vice president in 2020.

To be fair the science is on Japans side here and other countries do dump more concentrated amounts of contaminants from their nuclear plants each year. That’s just facts that can be observed anytime by looking at the regulations that are allowed and followed.

Political drumming aside, Japan has done a pretty poor job at getting people on the same page with the entire incident from day 1. The day to day, your opinion doesn’t matter well just do what we want, rhetoric the LDP usually follows stays well in peoples minds when they are also trying to say “no really trust us, it’s on the up and up look how happy these unprotected workers and cherry blossoms are at the decommissioned plant!”

Terrible PR management all over isn’t helping

Terrible PR management all over isn’t helping

I’d like to hear your PR management ideas.

How do you hold a rational “dialogue” with someone who believes the earth is flat, or the earth is only 8,000-years old and we used to frolic with dinosaurs, or the holocaust never happened or birds are not real, they’re all government drones spying on everyone?

TEPCO and the government made bad PR since 2011 when in the beginning they denied the meltdowns. Mistrust has been there since 2011. TEPCO lied and denied it at first. Altered documents.

This is forum rumour, but as soon as I have a source I will post.

Apparently the inner Mongolia Ordos mine has been operating as an open pit mine for a while, AND it's disturbing radiated dust which then gets blown onto nearby population, and that there has been massive cases of respiratory illness, which the CCP is saying just allergy, covid, or chronic illhealth.

Then there's the 230% increase in sales of geiger counters in the past week, and salt shortage etc.

https://stockhead.com.au/news/poison-salt-fish-and-no-geiger-counters-china-struggles-with-fallout-of-anti-japan-hysteria/

IMHO, as usual CCP lies is becoming official CCP policy.

wallace

Today 12:19 pm JST

TEPCO and the government made bad PR since 2011 when in the beginning they denied the meltdowns. Mistrust has been there since 2011. TEPCO lied and denied it at first. Altered documents.

But things have changed,

As many posters here will attest , tepco and the govt are now telling the truth , the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Here's the first English link over on Twitter re' radiation from Ordos coal mine.

https://twitter.com/DrLiMengYAN1/status/1698556764701282420

This is all about politics. Not science. By any measure China is far more polluted than Japan, spewing enormous waste into the ocean and the air. Chinese consumers don’t deserve to eat Japanese seafood until they decide to overthrow their communist authoritarian dictatorship.