Japanese-Americans oppose Trump's immigration policy, split over trade

Why are they complaining about President Trump's immigration policy?

The president is only attempting to restrict ILLEGAL immigration. I'm assuming that they or their parents/ancestors entered the U.S. legally and they should be grateful for America's relatively generous immigration policies which are far more welcoming than thier mother country Japan.

So, I was in Hawaii earlier this year and was in a cafe with my wife when we overheard a conversation between two 20 something Nikkei local women. Meaning Japanese American women who were born and lived in Hawaii.

The conversation went something like this:

Woman 1: So glad that we live in Hawaii where people are so much more open-minded and progressive and we don't have to deal with Trump supporters.

Woman 2: Yeah, just it would suck to be on the mainland and have to deal with those anti-immigrant stupid Trump supporters.

Conversation continues along those lines for a while. Then turns to job situation.

Woman 2: You know that job I interviewed for, the one I really wanted?

Woman 1: Oh yeah, what happened?

Woman 2: Haven't heard yet, but my friend there told me some guy from the mainland is probably going to get it.

Woman 1: Damn, that sucks!! I hate those mainlanders that come here and take our jobs.

True story.

My wife and I found it.... amusing....

Japanese-Americans oppose Trump's immigration policy, split over trade - Headline

ALL of my Japanese-American friends back in the states - legal immigrants, naturalized citizens, even natural born have stood in line and paid their dues and pay taxes, and are overwhelmingly glad the kleptomaniac Clintons are out of office.

People who want to immigrate should get in line. Nobody, NOBODY, talks about Japanese being incarcerated after the attack on Pearl Harbor. 

Jobs are back; people eat in restaurants more; the economy is back. NOBODY cares about abortion issues, climate change or Muslims.

The concern is on fundamental Islamic terrorists. We have Muslim friends. All of us are concerned about the increasing proliferation of shootings, but gun control laws are in the books. 

This is such fake news.

"The singling out of Muslims combined with the president's rhetoric is exactly like the racism that led to Japanese -American incarceration during World War II," he said.

He's not wrong.

Americans of Japanese descent are concerned over the 1930s style demagoguery and diatribes of hatred emanating from the White House. Their grandparents had to live through the shameful treatment they received - there's genuine anxiety over just where their country (the US) is heading under Trump.

The singling out of Muslims combined with the president's rhetoric is exactly like the racism that led to Japanese -American incarceration during World War II

Muslims weren't singled-out. The ban included Muslims and non-Muslims from specific countries which did not have adequate procedures in place to vet travelers intending on traveling to the US. Muslims from other countries were able to travel to the US without restrictions while the travel ban was in effect.

Also, while the internment of Japanese-Americans (along with Italian and German-Americans) during WWII was an extreme violation of their civil rights, usually when discussing the internment issue, little is mentioned of the "Niihau Incident" which contributed to internment being considered as a wartime strategy. ICYMI, the Niihau Incident involved a Japanese pilot who crash landed on Hawaii's northernmost island after attacking Pearl Harbor and received aid and comfort by Issei residents of the island. At the time, it was thought that in all "likelihood that Japanese residents previously believed loyal to the United States may aid Japan if further Japanese attacks appear successful" -- resulting in the now considered illegal confinement of more than 100,000 people of Japanese descent.

More on the Niihau Incident is available at:

http://www.historynet.com/the-niihau-incident.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niihau_incident

The problem with using the Niihau Incident as justification for the internment of Americans of Japanese decent is that no internment was ordered on the Hawaiian Islands.

I am far to be a Trump supporter and I’m not even American,but I think that these people before critizing his politic agenda should look how their country of origin is treating foreigners and how strict is it to them.

After all America for centuries was a sanctuary for immigration and new opportunities,can we say the same about Japan?

I am far to be a Trump supporter and I’m not even American,but I think that these people before critizing his politic agenda should look how their country of origin is treating foreigners and how strict is it to them.

My own country treats foreigners like crap.

Is that somehow supposed to justify Trump treating foreigners like crap? If so, I'm not getting it. I'm thinking both countries should do better, not cancel each other out.

The problem with using the Niihau Incident as justification for the internment of Americans of Japanese descent is that no internment was ordered on the Hawaiian Islands.

While Japanese-American internment facilities in the Territory of Hawai'i were far, far fewer than in the US, they did exist. According to the Japanese Cultural Center of Hawai'i "An estimated 17 sites throughout the territory were used to confine Japanese and Japanese Americans during World War II"

(See https://guides.library.manoa.hawaii.edu/Hawaii_internment)

NOTE: The old internment camp at Honouliuli is less than five miles from my home here on O'ahu. More info about internment camps in Hawaii is available at:

https://guides.library.manoa.hawaii.edu/Hawaii_internment https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/untold-story-japanese-americans-wwii-internment-hawaii-n170746

Trump wants to halt illegal immigration, nothing more nothing less. The left hate facts!

Strangerland:

Is that somehow supposed to justify Trump treating foreigners like crap?

I'm curious. How is president Trump treating foreigners like crap?

Having seen Japans attitude towards immigration, I don't think that these critics of President Trumps immigration policies are in any position to be complaining.

I'm curious. How is president Trump treating foreigners like crap?

I guess it depends on how you define treating someone like crap.

Ripping kids apart from their parents and putting them in cages well passes that bar for me, but hey, I understand other people are ok with caging children. We need to learn to accept each other, so I accept that you people are ok with children being in cages - if they are foreigners.

Strangerland:

Thanks for answering.

I don't think anyone is in favor of ripping children away from their parents and housing them in cages. Thankfully President Trump signed an executive order to end this practice. (These things occurred under President Obama's administration as well by the way.)

Insisting on adherence to fair immigration laws while humanely dealing with offenders who have accompanying children is a very tough balancing act. I'd hate to be responsible myself. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I hope the U.S can find fair and just solutions.

I don't think anyone is in favor of ripping children away from their parents and housing them in cages. Thankfully President Trump signed an executive order to end this practice. (These things occurred under President Obama's administration as well by the way.)

Ahh once again, the false equivalencies.

That said, I know all the arguments have already been made to you, and yet you still bleat this ignorance, so there it is. People who don't already know what happened, and people who already do know are either in reality, living in ignorance, or living disingenuously.

Strangerland:

How do you propose the U.S. can humanely uphold reasonable immigration laws?

(For the sake of argument reasonable immigration laws would be those similar to most other nation's)