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Skepticism remains as China veers from assertive diplomacy

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I believe that China is concerned that Russia will eventually lose the war, causing a regime change in the Kremlin and leading to the democratization of Russia.

Democratization? More like neo-lib. And a choice between two parties whose policies are exactly the same, both caring only about rich elites. We've seen this system fail America badly. Gimme a break.

Most leaders, even the two-faced ones, like Biden, were scrambling to meet Xi recently. Times are changing. And the Global South is no longer willing to be second best to the elite west. Saudi Arabia has now shifted in the first step towards the slow sinking of the petrodollar and will soon be part of BRICS. Others like Argentina and Iran are going in that direction too. Others were left out, with UK's Rishi Sunak (or as Biden calls him, Rasheed Sanook) given the brush off, and Trudeau given a big scolding on live TV as he walked away with his tail between his legs.

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I believe that China is concerned that Russia will eventually lose the war, causing a regime change in the Kremlin and leading to the democratization of Russia.

I think Mr. Putin may end up being forced from office in the near future for the failures of the Russian Army in Ukraine, but I emphatically do not believe Russia will democratize. I rather expect even more reactionary and revanchist elements to take control in Russia and make it even more belligerent in the short term. It will take many years, perhaps more than a decade for democratic forces in Russia to organize and arm themselves sufficiently to take down the existing Russian state.

What could also drive Mr. Putin from power would be a mass uprising in the Caucasus this spring by Chechens and possibly other Muslim ethnic groups. But that too would probably result in the same result as above, with the most reactionary and bloodthirsty elements in Russia seizing power trying to turn the clock back to Russia's days of imperial glory.

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Putin told Xi in their meeting held in Uzbekistan on Sept 15, their first face-to-face talks since the Ukraine war, that he understood Beijing's "questions and concerns" about the conflict, in a rare acknowledgement of tensions between them.

Some here think Russian and China are an alliance. Please read up on these two. China and Japan have one island dispute in the Senkaku Islands. India and China have one border dispute in Aksai Chin. Russia and China share a long border. They have over 7000 cases of border disputes.

Putin is testing China and pushing Xi’s buttons. His nuclear threat is a major concern to China. These two are unlikely partners that have been thrown together by the US. You’re supposed to drive a wedge between them not help them form a partnership.

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The war in Ukraine has proven that Mr. Putin is an unreliable partner, Chinese factories will sit still without the west and the rest of the world consumptions.

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From wolf warriors to wolf in sheep's clothing.

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Well, then, US had better close their weapon deals before the regional "threats" go away.

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Time to join BRICS and Belt and Road. You gotta be in to win.

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More misinformation to keep the China hate going.

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Dictator Ping-ping is clearly a wolf attempting to don sheep's clothing.

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Enjoy the respite. China is backing down in the face of unified resistance. As soon as it thinks it can divide and conquer, that's exactly what it will do and the whole "wolf warrior" shtick will be back along with the "Confusian Academies" and foreign police, sorry "community outreach centers."

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"President Xi (Jinping) took note of the damage that the wolf warrior and economic coercion has done to China. I think it's an attempt to airbrush those out of people's memory," U.S. Ambassador to Japan Rahm Emanuel said in a recent press conference at the Foreign Correspondents' Club of Japan in Tokyo.

And nothing that can hide the fear of China.

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Things are less threatening then they were just a month ago, but watch out. It is in the nature of dictatorships to be expansionist, and the only way for Xi to grab more territory is at the expense of the rest of the world.

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And the Global South is no longer willing to be second best to the elite west. 

The combined GDPs of all the nations in South America and Africa are roughly 6% of the global GDP. Australia contributes another 1.7% of global GDP. New Zealand is too small to count. Less than 8% of the world's output of goods and services comes from this hallowed "Global South". Based on actual numbers they are below second best. 8% is barely more than rounding error.

The GDP of California at 3.7% of global GDP is greater than that of all the nations of South America combined, which comes in at 3.2% of global GDP. The GDP of Europe is about ten times that of all of Africa. Nations matter because they have economic clout. The Global South has very little and that won't change unless they can reform their own societies.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Global-Wealth-Distribution.html

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nemo:

Enjoy the respite. China is backing down in the face of unified resistance.

And now the western MSM are onto the next subject - the thought of large-scale infection and hospitals in China unable to cope. Jesus, do you want China to keep or discard covid restrictions? People here and the media just enjoy bashing China. I'd be more worried about the protests in the west and the erosion of free speech. Let's see what Musk does about Twitter and the suppression of Biden laptop details. And let's see what Europe does about increasing discontent, strikes and protests amid a very very cold winter.

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"I think the result is going to make Russia more dependent on China," which Beijing would not altogether welcome.

How is it bad for China?If I were Xi,I would love to see Russia become China's client state. China has alot to gain from it,it means uninterrupted supply of cheap resources and a stronghold against the west,the west also has to divert lots of resources to Ukraine instead of Taiwan,that's big win for China

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Desert TortoiseDec. 4  07:16 am JST I believe that China is concerned that Russia will eventually lose the war, causing a regime change in the Kremlin and leading to the democratization of Russia.

Russia will democratize but maybe not dramatically overthrowing Putin. Either he figures it out and stops being a child or the next Russian president figures it out.

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Putin is testing China and pushing Xi’s buttons.

Total hogwash !

China and Russia relationship is stronger now than it ever been.

Let's not be naive.

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China is trying to adjust its pro-Moscow stance and move a bit closer to the West," said Wu Junhua, an executive research director and chief senior economist at the Japan Research Institute.

Move a bit closer to the west ?

Total disinformation and deflection of truth.

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