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Cabinet OKs record ¥7.95 trillion defense budget for 2024 to accelerate strike capability

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deanzaZZRDec. 23  08:49 am JST

Currency translator shows 7.95 trillion yen equals $55.8 billion up a few billion compared to a few years ago. Yippie.

No, even worse. Because 100 yen in Japan more or less spends like 1$ in America, so 7.95 trillion yen is like Japan spending 79 billion dollars ($79,500,000,000)

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It's not a waste of money. Japan is already covered by the US nuclear umbrella.

Supposedly yes

However do you really think the USA would gamble the USA mainland by using nuclear weapons to defend Japan ?

No !

In a war over Taiwan is is thought neither side will want to escalate the conflict to a nuclear exchange. Everyone is planning on such a war remaining conventional. The models of such a war that are talked about in open sources all say missile expenditures in the first two weeks of such a war could deplete the entire stockpile of certain weapons, which implies to me that thousands of cruise missiles will be shot by each side. The reach and density of China's air defenses is such that one needs very long range missiles in order to engage Chinese forces from beyond the range of their air defenses. Tomahawks have the necessary range and are no more expensive to own than many shorter range missiles available today.

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Its good to ramp up the military given the challenges on the borders, but what these strikes can do without nuclear warheads? It sounds like a waste of money.

Nuclear weapons today are only useful as terror weapons to hold an enemy's cities hostage to possible annihilation.

A rule of thumb in war fighting is that the blast radius of your bomb or missile should be equal to the Circular Error Probable, or CEP, to guarantee the weapon destroys the target. When weapons were free fall bombs with CEPs in the hundreds to even a thousand meters or more (high altitude drop) and some missiles had CEPs in the thousands of meters (Snark for example) the weapon required a big blast radius to guarantee mission success. That meant a nuclear warhead. Likewise if the target was hardened and/or deeply buried. Those too required a nuclear warhead. But modern precision guided weapons and hard target penetrator warheads have changed everything. Today nearly all target sets can be defeated with conventional ordnance. The USAF has a 14.5 metric ton precision guided hard target penetrator with a conventional warhead carried by the B-2 (two per aircraft) designed to defeat the most deeply buried targets. A handful of B-2s could flatten the Kremlin and excavate their bunkers without ever resorting to nuclear weapons. Likewise most ICBM silos could be defeated with JDAM kits on heavy hard target penetrator bombs. Imagine being able to attrite your enemy's nuclear deterrent without using nuclear weapons. This is the original mission for the F-117 and B-2 btw, and the F-35 is the F-117s successor.

Everything about nuclear weapons from their manufacture to their storage, security, and life cycle maintenance is hideously expensive. A nation can have much larger stockpile of conventionally armed missiles than it could nuclear missiles for the same money. For a nation like Japan there is little to be gained from the great expense of owning a nuclear arsenal.

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Correction

Okinawa's general account budget for FY 2023 has been 104.96 billion yen (about $73.87 billion). So, compared with this, the 7.95 trillion yen for defense alone (about $5.59 trillion) for FY 2024 is really mindboggling.

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Okinawa's general account budget for FY 2023 has been 104.96 billion yen (about $738.7 billion). So, compared with this, the 7.95 trillion-yen for defense alone (about $7.95 trillion) for FY 2024 is really mindboggling.

U.S. Ambassador to Japan Rahm Emanuel seems content with this because it means the U.S.’s obligation to defend its sphere of influence is lightened greatly.

You know, in the late 1980s, the Pentagon embarked on an academic study, seeking an answer as to why great empires in history did fall and disintegrate. The Pentagon's conclusion: bloated military budgets to defend sprawling territories and long borders were the culprits.

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LDP regime prioritizing arms race or arms industries' benefits, and victimizing daily life or health or future of citizen, it's similar to somewhere dictatorship regime.

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kurisupisuToday  07:34 am JST

Japan now has ‘strike capability’

Shall we rename the the Japan Self Defense Force the ‘Japan Offense Force’ ?

Another DA comment. The Australian Defence Force has been in conflicts from Vietam to Afghanistan. And just turn on the TV to watch what the Israeli Defence Force are doing. It's just a title.

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The three previously mentioned neighbors have been showing their belligerence...

The american empire is the most belligerent of all. Dumping our taxes into subsidizing their 20 something bases here is NOT the way to protect us. Distancing itself from america's warmongering would be a much better course. american forces in japan gtfo! The LDP are a bunch of thieves and america's lapdogs.

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BaradzedToday 02:44 pm JST

what these strikes can do without nuclear warheads? It sounds like a waste of money.

It's not a waste of money. Japan is already covered by the US nuclear umbrella.

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TokyoLivingToday 02:07 pm JST

When the budget to accelerate your own people wellness capability??..

It's being done in tandem.

The budget for "your own people wellness capability" could be much larger if Japan were not being threatened by China and others. However, it is.

indigoToday 02:17 pm JST

it is unconstitutional

No, it isn't. Japan can even strike pre-emptively if there is an "imminent illegal attack." The Diet would have to decide whether the situation meets the threshold.

https://carnegieendowment.org/programs/asia/japan-military-strike-debate/

and proves the desire for offense instead of defense.

It proves the desire for deterrence, like any sensible country. "Offense" is what China is doing in the South China Sea, East China Sea, Indian border, and elsewhere.

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Its good to ramp up the military given the challenges on the borders, but what these strikes can do without nuclear warheads? It sounds like a waste of money.

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i can't imagine how life will be if Japan was forced bowing down to evil china. Japan is such a wonderful and excellent country, no budget will be too low to defend this paradise.

All one has to do is look at what China has done to Hong Kong. Anyone who prefers that to elected representative government with competitive elections and all the political disputes inherent in the democratic process is crazy or maybe supremely insecure.

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accelerate strike capability

it is unconstitutional and proves the desire for offense instead of defense.

the Japanese people never agree to strike anybody. Kishida needs to be arrested for violating the will of the people and the constitution.

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When the budget to accelerate your own people wellness capability??..

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Oh dear, yet another excuse for little Kimmy to get on to his little pony and to start making more threats, or maybe fire some rockets or two.

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You know Kishida is smart. Well he is not the only one to give credit too. Japan would never allow ICBM's to be placed in below ground silos at the base of some of its most stable mountains, Having Japan's nuclear tipped capable missiles mobile on trains, ships and trucks. This gives Japan a monumental tactical advantage against its adversaries on broad scale. Genius really. Utterly deadly too. Can not wait till japan starts sending up its own practice missiles on North Korea sea side. Karma and crow.

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elephant200Today 06:14 am JST

Was that foolish?

No, wise.

It won't change the strategic balance of Asia

Of course it will. If Japan has the ability to strike a whole host of targets in China, China will have to think twice about attacking Japan as it will suffer a devastating counterstrike.

Submarines can be particularly effective in this regard:

https://asiatimes.com/2023/12/japans-new-vls-sub-designed-to-hem-in-china/

That just provoking China to step up their military spending.

China is already in the process of the fastest and largest military buildup in recent history. The argument that something will "provoke" China is nonsense: the country is already aggressively threatening countless other countries despite zero provocation by these countries, so the countries are rightfully responding to China's completely unwarranted aggression and provocation.

AureliusToday 10:23 am JST

Dialogue is what is needed more of

Yes, but unfortunately Xi and the CCP are full of lies. They've been lying for decades, and there's absolutely no reason to think they'll engage in sincere dialog now. They may do, since their economy is failing, but it's highly unlikely so other countries must be well prepared.

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overspending for not needed weapons while young families with kids and old people are having really bad time....not nice.

Yes, the Chinese certainly have good reason to be unhappy with China's large military budget and imperial designs of expansion as it will be the ordinary Chinese who as always must suffer.

On the other hand, Japans much smaller defense budget is prudently providing a better ability to deter aggression against Japan from regional troublemakers.

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This is absolutely great news for the future peace and security of the Asia-Pacific region!

Japan is doing the right thing by being prepared for any eventuality. A champion of peace and a defender of freedom and security for those who desperately want to remain free and safe in Japan, and for a growing list of friends who could become allies in the near future.

A mix of US state of the art equipment paired with Japanese innovation and quality manufactured materials and ammunition.

Those with ideas of beginning hostilities in the region beware, Japan will not allow itself to be pushed around or denied its rights. And Japan is not alone.

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Only China supporters boo hoo this article. Fact is that it is China that has forced a change in Japan's defense needs. They have succeeded where the US has failed for over 70 years. Xie Xie!

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i can't imagine how life will be if Japan was forced bowing down to evil china. Japan is such a wonderful and excellent country, no budget will be too low to defend this paradise. Japan shall keep increasing the budget slowly to around 2-3% of its GDP so that it can collaborate successfully with counterparts in West

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Tomahawk change blinded by GPS jammers easy, Tomahawk also used mapping system ,that have to be preprogrammed ahead of time Japanese do not have the capacity at a moment noticed

Tomahawk doesn't need GPS. It's nice to have but not necessary. The first use of Tomahawk in combat was 1991 during Operation Desert Storm. There was no GPS yet. Only a small number of the 36 satellites necessary were up and the system was not yet operational.

The terrain maps necessary for TERCOM (TERrain COMparison, comparing the terrain under the missile to that along a pre-planned route for the missile) will presumably come from the US. The UK has operated Tomahawks and been embedded into that system for a couple of decades. Some European cruise missiles use that system too. All the other foreign customers for Tomahawk like Australia and Canada will likewise use the system. I've seen the system on US Navy ships. Tomahawk missions are not done casually. They require planning. Each missile has a detailed route to fly to its assigned target. Seems to work in the real world. They hit their targets reliably. You don't see duds landing in enemy cities or towns, and you know that would all over the news if they did with a crowd of people standing around the crashed Tomahawk cheering for the TV cameras. No, they hit their targets.

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deanzaZZRToday 08:49 am JST

Currency translator shows 7.95 trillion yen equals $55.8 billion up a few billion compared to a few years ago. Yippie.

In about 30 years they will meet NATO targets. Yippie indeed.

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Regardless of the cost it's the responsibility of the government to protect and feed it's people.

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AndyToday 10:27 am JST

Excellent news for the RS of the USA whose economy is dependant on the continual sale of weapons and war machines to the likes of its puppet Japan.

The defense industry is 1/40th the size of the US economy. Still curious what the RS of the USA is, though.

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Japan’s defense spending will increase more than 16% next year...

Unfortunately, this is a time for Japan to increase its defense power as much as possible, given the presence of dangerous imperialist powers such as Russia and China, along with the world's most unpredictable regime, North Korea.

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Excellent news for the RS of the USA whose economy is dependant on the continual sale of weapons and war machines to the likes of its puppet Japan.

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If North Korea or China strikes at japan with nuclear weapons perhaps japan is a goner anyway

And guess what happens to those aggressor nations? Reduced to radioactive dust.

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Cabinet OKs record ¥7.95 trillion defense budget for 2024 to accelerate strike capability

Then strike ability to hit your own budget with higher taxes in 2026 to accelerate the big pockets of the government with no harm to coporate Japan because at some time in the next few decades, maybe within a century just maybe big Japanese corporations will higher salaries, LOL!

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Currency translator shows 7.95 trillion yen equals $55.8 billion up a few billion compared to a few years ago. Yippie.

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@kurisupisu

Japan now has ‘strike capability’

Shall we rename the the Japan Self Defense Force the ‘Japan Offense Force’ ?

No one wants there to be a war between Japan and China (or DPRK or Russia), and there is a legit argument about the costs. But do you seriously believe Japan will invade any of these countries, as your comment implies? Surely this a classic defense move meant to dissuade these countries from bullying. Japan's days of imperialism are in the past.

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And JSDF recruitment to man all these war toyz is standing at where?

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Japan cannot fight a terrorist group in a subway, because Japan is land lot , Japanese are sitting ducks in nuclear strike ,no where to run, Tomahawk change blinded by GPS jammers easy, Tomahawk also used mapping system ,that have to be preprogrammed ahead of time Japanese do not have the capacity at a moment noticed

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Vote 日本共産党 to end all this militarism.

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It's not easy for Japan to secure personnel because young people are less and less interested in joining the military.

….

The Japanese youngsters of today don’t want to die on some beach or rock far from their homes defending a regime that sucks them dry and gives a bleaker future than their parents had…

Who in their right mind would?

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Better to be prepared for the tough times ahead.

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elephant200Today 06:14 am JST

Was that foolish? It won't change the strategic balance of Asia bit worsening Japan's already dangerous situation,when you are pouring gasoline to fight a fire that just make the fire spreading on your self . That just provoking China to step up their military spending. Remember Russia doesn't likejapan as well, they were annoying at Japan too!

They both are probably beyond what they can sustain in terms of defense spending. The key is to make even these ugly autocrats think twice before triggering missiles reigning down on their cities.

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When dialogue is not an option and panic sets in.

Japan now has ‘strike capability’

Shall we rename the the Japan Self Defense Force the ‘Japan Offense Force’ ?

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I don't think it is a record in terms of dollars. Strike capability is essential against these murderous neighbors, though.

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Remember Russia doesn't likejapan as well

Who cares.

they were annoying at Japan too!

Well, they’re certainly annoying.

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Japan has the dreadful misfortune of having three totalitarian, undemocratic neighbours - two of whom, China and Russia, who are aggressively expansionist, seeking more land through invasion. It is a no-brainer for Japan to beef up her defenses against territorial grabs.

No doubt the aforementioned three despots will whine and accuse Japan of being "warlike" - when the fact it if it wasn't for them, none of this would be needed.

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@elwphant 2000: Japan's already dangerous situation

If Japan is in fact in an already dangerous situation, with China, Russia an their pet attack nation North Korea, so close by, then it seems to me Japan should do whatever it takes to protect itself, its citizens, resources and its sovereignty. The three previously mentioned neighbors have been showing their belligerence a couple of them bent on expanding their territories.

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Siphoning more of the Japanese taxpayer's money to the US. The US and LDP are vampires.

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Was that foolish? It won't change the strategic balance of Asia bit worsening Japan's already dangerous situation,when you are pouring gasoline to fight a fire that just make the fire spreading on your self . That just provoking China to step up their military spending. Remember Russia doesn't likejapan as well, they were annoying at Japan too!

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