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Yubaru
There is no need for it to take this long!
zatoizugoodo
16 years?! I don't think I can deal with horrible Japanese "cheese" that long.
UK9393
16 years or 834.2 weeks, 5840 days, 40160 hours... Laughable. It will take THAT long for Japanese industries to “adapt” to the “foreign invasion”? Really? Massively poor at adapting to new market forces, the consumer, ripped off since day dot in Japan, HAS to speak louder... Pigs will fly!
Robots and AI don’t eat or drink, mostly what will be populating Japan by the time this comes into effect, yet Europes population will be UP. What will all those robots and AI do with money??
UK9393
Plus, just in time for the UK to rejoin the EU as all the leavers will have left, for good!
MichaelBukakis
BUT the 6000% meat tariff will be halved
Schopenhauer
Cheese is nice eating once in a while but I don't think Japanese people come to consume daily. It appears people here are urging because they are drinkers and they want cheese when they drink wines. For the same reason, other Asian countries are not earnest in importing cheese.
Ah_so
About 2% a year. It will take a long time to realise any benefit.
And as Britain is due to leave the EU in a couple of months, Cheddar will not be part of the deal but permanently kept out.
ifd66
I'm glad I have my goats to supply me with good healthy cheese - rather that wait 16 years. This country needs to diversity and adapt its agriculture - more traditionally reared livestock needed to make better use of the unused agricultural land here.
Yubaru
The biggest adaptation that needs to be made, but wont, is getting more of the family farmers to work together and diversify.
Rice is subsidized so heavily that it makes it profitable for even the small farmer to eek out a living growing rice that we the consumer pay far too much for! (Even though overall rice consumption is down here as people are becoming more and more health conscience too!)
Wallace Fred
Hows this good for Europe if it's going to have to consume products from regions still banned in other countries?
Aly Rustom
I agree.
AgentX
Call me cynical of Japan (it evolved with experience) but, why is it that I don't believe that this will take place?
Oh, I see...
I would love to enjoy REAL cheese. The Japanese don't know real dairy and small goods. I am a non-drinker btw...
browny1
SchopenhauerToday 07:37 am JST
Cheese is nice eating once in a while but I don't think Japanese people come to consume daily. It appears people here are urging because they are drinkers and they want cheese when they drink wines. For the same reason, other Asian countries are not earnest in importing cheese.
I agree - most Japanese probably don't consume cheese daily , as I guess most Europeans, North Americans, Australians etc. Although I do wonder who's buying all the cheese (of mediocre quality at the best) in my local supermarket, where the cheese section is larger than the tofu section by many times over.
And as others commented it's about the quality. Once the market here is exposed to the incredible varieties of cheese at affordable prices- and they get a taste for it, the domestic makers will certainly have to lift their game to compete.
But 16 years!!! That's a long time in the free market world to adapt to change.
factchecker
Ignorant comment. It's far easier to get decent cheese in other Asian countries' supermarkets. HK, Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia for example. Have seen it with my own eyes. It shouldn't be the way that a nation in the top end of the developed country league table that its so difficult to buy a basic consumer product.
factchecker
Amen to that, have been saying it for years.
TumbleDry
Nothing to be passed down to consumers.
Increase profits for companies and that’s it.
Goodlucktoyou
Don’t trust politics, but I doubt cheese will be cheaper. Just more choice of expensive cheese.
Was in Thailand a week or two ago. Rice was about ¥1000 for 20kg. My area in japan, ¥6000. I can’t see this going well for Japanese.
gelendestrasse
I would like a good stinky cheese but I doubt I can afford it.
Jimizo
Chew on the wrapping for the same taste but don’t grilll it.
that person
All the foreigners and some Japanese cheese lovers read the headline and be like: “oh my god! I can finally have more chees......”
Then, they cream pied reality in your face:
blue in green
Unless these tariffs end now, this means nothing.
The can is kicked farther down the road,
while nothing really changes.
Japan's agriculture has a bad season, instead of importing, with better quality, lower price,
they charge us more for what they actually do grow.
The consumer/customer is GOD, reversed.
Speed
Glad this went through. 1/3 of the the world's GDP is pretty damn big.
I hope to see cheaper prices and a larger variety of food available here even if some of these take a few years for the tariffs to reach zero. I've been waiting for over 40 years already anyway.
The US, China, and the Brexiteers can go sit in a corner by themselves.
Derek Grebe
How long is it going to take before we get some decent bacon and lamb in this burg?
It astonishes me how many people have bought into the "We Japanese do not like lamb because it is bad smell" groupthink, then as soon as they visit Australia they get fed it and enjoy it. Only to revert to Factory Settings as soon as they get off the plane at Narita.
I'm with the posters above though. No way on Earth this should take 16 years to kick in.
AgentX
I wonder how long it will take the EU counterparts to reduce tarifs on Japanese imports in this "reciprocal trade"..?
Exactly! The LDP knows full-well that they have no interest in 'reciprocal trade' that doesn't give financial advantages to them. Both now and historically. But I think the world is becoming more aware of this. And Japan continues to decline as it and burns bridges one by one in the world while it gradually turns (regresses) inward more and more each day.
afanofjapan
Looking at the mainichi news they give a table showing the exact figures and how they will change
Wine: Max 94 yen tax will be removed (i.e. wine will be up to 94 yen cheaper) - effective immediately
Sparkling wine Max 137 yen tax will be removed immediately
Pork (expensive cuts) tax will go from 4.7 to 2.2% immediately, 2.0 after april 1.
Pork (cheak cuts) will go from max 482yen/kg tax to max 125yen/kg tax immediately... This sounds like it will be quite good!
Pasta/Chocolate: barely any noticeable difference
Cheese: 29.8% -- 27.9% immediately, and then 26.1% after april 1st. i.e. barely any difference :(
alwaysspeakingwisdom
"In Thailand Rice was about ¥1000 for 20kg. My area in japan, ¥6000."
and in Thailand the avg wage is USD 800 and in Japan is USD3250.
need I say any more?
Kuro
I guess we don't have the same friends... i know lot of japanese people who would eat (or are eating) cheese everyday ! :)
K3PO
For Europe, the real money in cheese is in Japan's fast food industry, particularly pizza.
kawabegawa198
Just think how big a bank loan you'd need in Japan to buy that much cheese.
BertieWooster
I don't think I can deal with horrible Japanese "cheese" that long.
It's not all bad. It's the mass produced Japanese cheeses that are really bad, but they use imported bulk non-tariff "cheese" with a smidgen of local product so that they can label it "Made in Hokkaido," etc.
goldorak
Don't think we should put 'westerners' in one big category though. Many euros do eat cheese everyday, anglos don't. (top 15 countries that consume the most cheese: all euros & israel at 15 https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-who-consume-the-most-cheese.html ). When it comes to cheese-eating habits it's very much a europe vs rest-of-the-world thing.
Personally, i don't think we should expect Japan to import various types of cheese (as seen in the above pic). Not their culture, which is fair enough. Camembert/brie/softish cheese (i.e any soft/creamy 'accessible' cheese) at a reasonable price would be nice though (125g at 800 yen is a joke/rip-off).
Although cheese & wine do pair well, cheese & good, fresh, quality 'real' bread (not sliced-bread) go hand-in-hand.
Brian Wheway
I wonder how many shop owners will not drop the prices fully in line with the tax reduction, so they can make a bit more profit.
robotxparty
So then these cheeses will only be about 150% more expensive than normal here?
Schopenhauer
Do you want us to put cheese on the bowl of rice? Hard to imagine.
BertieWooster
Cream cheese in rice goes beautifully! Especially genmai (brown rice).
that person
Let’s repost this article in 16 years, when it’ll mean something, shall we?
Samit Basu
This is pretty sad.
Japanese should be talking about cheaper Mercedes and BMWs, not cheaper cheese.