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South China sea is a long way from Germany. What would our anti China crowd say if China was aggressively patrolling the Baltic?

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@Mr Kipling

Exactly, those countries encircling China but still calling China is provocateur?

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Germany and France are two major members of NATO. So are the UK and Italy. And so seeking access to these countries means Japan wants to join NATO. 

NATO seems to be replacing the U.S. as a dominant power of not only this Pacific region but the whole world. The Ukraine war may be considered in this context.

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South China sea is a long way from Germany. What would our anti China crowd say if China was aggressively patrolling the Baltic?

The PLAN has conducted exercises in the Baltic with the Russian Navy.

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South China sea is a long way from Germany. What would our anti China crowd say if China was aggressively patrolling the Baltic?

A Chinese government icebreaker also dropped anchor in a bay well inside the territorial waters of Greenland without asking permission.

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A large volume of Germany's foreign trade moves through an increasingly disputed South China Sea. Germany has a legitimate interest in maintaining free navigation through international waters free from coercion by the Chinese.

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Mr. Kipling

South China sea is a long way from Germany. What would our anti China crowd say if China was aggressively patrolling the Baltic?

If someone around the Baltic were to be threatening and encroaching on neighboring nations' territorial claims in violation of international legal rulings and was denying China freedom of navigation and transit, then none of us would question why China would be in the Baltic asserting its rights. What China is doing in the SCS is the world's problem, not just the Pacific nations'.

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Mr KiplingToday 06:55 am JST

South China sea is a long way from Germany. What would our anti China crowd say if China was aggressively patrolling the Baltic?

They are welcome to try. China doesn't have any friends, though.

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voiceofokinawaToday 07:26 am JST

Germany and France are two major members of NATO. So are the UK and Italy. And so seeking access to these countries means Japan wants to join NATO. 

NATO seems to be replacing the U.S. as a dominant power of not only this Pacific region but the whole world. The Ukraine war may be considered in this context.

Would you like to do some research about the relative strengths of the US vs the rest of NATO?

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No more Cold War.

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NATO seems to be replacing the U.S. as a dominant power of not only this Pacific region but the whole world. The Ukraine war may be considered in this context.

I feel like "replacing" is an inaccurate word to use since the US is in NATO? But the combined power of multiple countries is supposed to be a strong force.

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Ken,

I feel like "replacing" is an inaccurate word to use since the US is in NATO...

You are right in saying that France and Germany are not replacing the U.S. because the U.S. is also a member of NATO. Note, however, that I'm not saying the U.S is not replacing Germany and France in NATO but rather that the latter two countries are replacing the U.S. for the hegemonic role the U.S. has played since the end of WW II.

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another way how to to waste our taxes for...nothing?

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...nothing?

security is NOT nothing. Better this than a war in the future.

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Mr KiplingToday 06:55 am JST

What would our anti China crowd say if China was aggressively patrolling the Baltic?

If China was "aggressively" patrolling it would be called out, and suffer diplomatic and political fallout. Just as has happened with China's aggression across the Indo-Pacific.

If it became too aggressive a military response may be forthcoming. As it may be in the Indo-Pacific due to China's constant belligerence.

sakurasukiToday 07:17 am JST

Exactly, those countries encircling China

By "encircling," I presume you are referring to "having bases that are legal and at the request of the host nations," and "transiting international waterways and airspace in accordance with international law."

but still calling China is provocateur?

Because it is illegally occupying land and sea areas that do not belong to it, ramming and water cannoning their legal occupants, and, in the case of the Indian border, actually killing people.

It's a very simple concept to grasp... for everyone but the CCP hordes, at least.

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voiceofokinawaToday 07:26 am JST

And so seeking access to these countries means Japan wants to join NATO.

No, it doesn't.

The Ukraine war may be considered in this context.

By you, perhaps.

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Mr KiplingToday  06:55 am JST

South China sea is a long way from Germany. What would our anti China crowd say if China was aggressively patrolling the Baltic?

Silly analogy. Germany isn't claiming a huge chunk of the Atlantic as it's own.

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China's crying about being "encircled" is laughable. The great majority of the nations bordering China are friendly or at least neutral with the exception of India and there isn't one nation directly bordering China that hosts a US military base. There are no US bases in India, Pakistan, any of the central Asian nations, Russia, Myanmar, Thailand, Laos, Cambodia or Vietnam. The US left Afghanistan leaving no nation bordering China with US bases. Most of China's borders are land borders and China is in no way "encircled". There is an arc of nations allied with the US who host some bases in the Pacific to the east of China, but it is a stretch to call this being "encircled". The Chinese whine and stomp their feet like a lot like little babies.

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