Kishida cautious about same-sex marriage

Gaff-prone former prime minister Taro Aso remarked two days ago that Japan’s population decline was due to the tendency of late marriage. That may be partly true. But late marriage is part of the change of people’s thinking about marriage.

In the old days, it was taken for granted that men and women get married when time ripens. That taken-for-granted thinking seems to be changing these days. In fact, there is an increasing number of young people who profess they won't get married if time comes.

Japan's population decline may be connected with this trend. Demand for official same-sex marriage may be considered as part of it.

Kishida cautious about same-sex marriage

That headline makes it sound like he told his partner he'd like to take it slow, so they can get to know each other before tying the knot.

borscht: Jan. 27  07:40 pm JST

they （same-sex couples) cannot get a tax break, join each other's health insurance, benefit from a pension, inherit the other person's possessions when they die, or adopt. I've heard non-relatives can't visit dying patients in hospital. Those are kind of a human rights issues, don't you think.

Do married couples in Japan receive such fringe benefits as you tell?

Conservative logic on this issue is so bizarre - that somehow keeping it illegal reduces homosexuality, and that legalising it somehow increases homosexuality? It's moronic, not just here, but anywhere.

Homosexuality is completely normal and consistent in humans and always has been and it runs at roughly 3%. Regardless of anything else - just who's into what type stuff.

Denying this, and denying those people the opportunity to do what everyone else gets to do is just awful decision making.

Marriage is between a man and a woman. That's the way it is.

Sure. If you were living in the stone age.

Kishida is bang out of line. A rubbish leader with backwards views

Kishida is right on the money with this one.

Marriage is between a man and a woman. That's the way it is.

Something conservatives don't understand: love.

Exactly, borscht. They are motivated by fear. Fear that they will crumble along with their "culture" if people are allowed to love who they like, or love at all. In fact, the "culture" is not built on love.

""We need to be extremely careful in considering the matter as it could affect the structure of family life in Japan," Kishida said at a parliamentary session""

Not to worry sir, governments should keep their nose out of people bedrooms in the first place, what harm could same sex or opposite sex marriages bring to any society??

…U.N. Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination against Women has recommended that Japan introduce reform to the system.

The United Nations, in this case, is self-evidently not interested in the best interests of women…or families…or children…and so on. Too many self-absorbed U.N. committees are what inspired the U.N.’s nickname, “Useless Narcissists.”

I'm Confused!

Kishida is beyond abysmal.

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If prohibition against same-sex marriage is tantamount to trampling relevant persons' human rights, that'll be a different story, of course. Is there such a violation?

If couples cannot marry, they cannot get a tax break, join each other's health insurance, benefit from a pension, inherit the other person's possessions when they die, or adopt. I've heard non-relatives can't visit dying patients in hospital. Those are kind of a human rights issues, don't you think.

Japanese conservatives, who typically cherish traditional values, are opposed to separate surnames, arguing that the move may have an impact on family unity as well as on children.

My spouse and I have different surnames in Japan! and the impact on our family unity as well as on our children is about zilch. Our surnames don't unite our family; love does that. Something conservatives don't understand: love.

During the war, my ex grandmother was forced to marry her sisters husband when she died.

country's traditional values, such as the role of women in giving birth and raising children.

he missed the stay in the kitchen part.

But won't SMS give Kishida brownie points from the west? Even the comedian from Ukraine has promised to make SMS legal.

Incest is illegal. Being gay is not.

Here endith the lesson.

When is Kishida not cautious about something?

When he's reaching into the workers' wallets, of course.

If prohibition against same-sex marriage is tantamount to trampling relevant persons' human rights, that'll be a different story, of course. Is there such a violation?

I consider same-sex marriage to be a private matter per se. Hence, it should be kept categorized as such.

Many countries allow first cousins to marry. In the USA, 19 states allow first cousins to marry without restrictions, including here in California.

On the subject of gay marriage, it isn't for me, but I think the time has come to recognize it as appropriate, for those so inclined.

this dude is clown,overpaid one.

And yet in Japan you can marry your own cousin. I know but it does explains the LDP.? Japan is one if not only country that allows inter family breading, But same sex relationships? That’s only for law makers a paid for service.. They are not gay they are curious.

Enraging that in 2023, Kishida still thinks we don’t deserve to be treated equally.

Even elementary school kids make fun of Kishida and his considerations at this point. Dudes a literal joke to them.

that said Kishi and his other runners for election all said they support same sex marriage and vowed to get the wheels going for it and then all lied as expected.

even if the opposition wins we know they won’t either. Some old man sighing next to them and slightly shaking their head is enough to make them back down even at the highest position in politics.

weak weak weak

In the old days, it was taken for granted that men and women get married when time ripens. That common knowledge and traditional mores seem to be collapsing these days. In fact, there is an increasing number of young people who profess they won't get married if time comes.

Japan's population decline may be connected with this trend. The demand for same-sex marriage and the other so-called "progressive" thinking may be spurring it.

That's only if they are told so, and so far it's working. Japanese schools now have mandatory LGBT classes

By younger generations, I was talking about people in their 20s, 30s and 40s. I don’t think they had the classes you don’t like.

Opposition to this will fade.

I heard one interesting take from someone involved in the tourism industry. She mentioned that LGBT-friendly tourism is another factor. Legalizing same-sex marriage would send out a message here.

There is evidence that LGBT couples tend to have higher than average incomes. These are the tourists Japan is looking to attract.

@qazwsxToday 09:29 am JST

There is outright discrimination when it comes to tax benefits of being a heterosexual married couple versus same sex couples who cannot be recognized as married in Japan, even though they are married in other countries.

The intent of the tax benefits for the heterosexual couple is to give them a one-up when they pump out a kid and have to pay the hefty costs of raising him. Homosexual couples are indeed, "Not productive", and really what's marriage but a Kid Making Licence anyway?

Ummmm he is going to Hiroshima soon maybe he could talk about relationship’s with his wife, if she is home? After all he has a fantastic normal relationship with his never see wife. He is a beacon of married bliss.

how can he be "cautious" abt something does not exist?

better to stop to waist your time abt bs and start work on serious issues we are facing here everyday!

Younger generations have no problem with this.

That's only if they are told so, and so far it's working. Japanese schools now have mandatory LGBT classes where they invite speakers to an auditorium and invite all students to attend these lectures and learn of all the marvels of this great community.

Picking and choosing what stays on the comments and what doesn't prevents people from having a natural discourse. You just can't delete all the comments that go against your narrative without losing credibility for your site.

I’ll stick with my 5-10 years prediction until it becomes the law. Younger generations have no problem with this.

Just a matter of time.

There is outright discrimination 

If you consider this discrimination, then you have to give incestuous relationships and polyamorous couples the same right, otherwise where would u draw the line?

Come on Kishida you can pick and choose when you align yourself with the US. This is part of what you have signed up for and is required by the largest contributor to the US Democratic Party.

There is outright discrimination when it comes to tax benefits of being a heterosexual married couple versus same sex couples who cannot be recognized as married in Japan, even though they are married in other countries.

In a heterosexual marriage, one spouse can be claimed as a dependent, thus lowering the taxes of the other. One dependent spouse can also be covered by the social insurance of the other working spouse. In the case of inheritance, a deduction is given to the inheriting heterosexual spouse, whereas same-sex spouses are treated just as strangers inheriting.

It's fear versus love. As always.

Maybe in this life I will see the family name matter changed in Japan but same sex, impossible.

it could affect the structure of family life

How so?

As there are a variety of views among the public, it is necessary to gain wider understanding through sufficient discussion

= "We don't even want to discuss it. Go away."

Weasel.

When is Kishida not cautious about something?

When is Japan not cautious about something? The Japanese are considerably more conservative on these kinds of issues than the West.

emphasizing the country's traditional values, such as the role of women in giving birth and raising children.

like that’s going really well.

“We need to be extremely careful in considering the matter as it could affect the structure of family life in Japan,"  It’s an old rebuttal, but what about infertile couples, old age couples, or couples who simply don’t intend to have kids? Why treat them any differently? This is nothing more than bigotry.

Kishida cautious about same-sex marriage

There is little political capital for him to gain here.

He can proceed to raise consumption taxes and defense spending and corporate socialism and social justice issues only have appeal when they appear to appease a foreign audience.

"We need to be extremely careful in considering the matter as it could affect the structure of family life in Japan,

Family structure in Japan? Don't blame that on same-sex marriage all.

No joint custody

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2023-01-24/japan-tries-to-fix-a-child-custody-system-under-fire-from-all-sides?srnd=economics-v2

Any single mother in Japan then number for being below poverty line is higher.

https://borgenproject.org/families-with-single-mothers-in-japan/

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/23/asia/japan-kishida-birth-rate-population-intl-hnk/index.html

When is Kishida not cautious about something?