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Japan protests over China's radar unit near disputed waters

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For the rest of the world, offshore oil platforms are purely a part of business. For China they are not. Owned by state-owned Chinese Oil Companies they are used as tools in their South and East China Sea territorial expansion program. They are used to clam sovereign rights and serve as military outposts. Just like the Chinese "fishermen" who are now Maritime Militia. China ha re-written the book on how to take advantage of the opposition. After the Haiyang Shiyou 981, China's approach became obvious. Surprised that Japan would be surprised at all.

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Make the islands Pokemon Go stops, the Chinese will run away

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At today’s oil prices, the off shore oil rig is bleeding money.

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Sheez, China complains about the THAAD system in Korea. Now Japan is complaining about Chins'a radar.

What a freaking joke! Tit for freaking tat.

It is plainly obvious the human race is still socially infantile.

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All these years of so called protests over this and that from Japan and other nations, it doesn't seem to be stopping China from building an island and militarizing the South China sea. It seems that every time China adds something we see almost exactly the same story. One day we're all going to wake up and the headline will read. China has prohibited passage through the South China sea. Good luck "protesting" that.

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The sound of Hangzhou is similar to Munich's. Premier Abe may kindly remind Xi Jin-ping and Zhongnanhai that enough is enough. Be civilized..

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Don't protest, empty words are worthless. Put your radar in the area and make the Chinese protest.

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seriously Japan need to militarise the island, invite the US and Japan military to the island. Then put up a big sign reading, "you want it, come and get it"

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This is utter nonsense !

Next time, Japan will complain about the satellite positioned above the Senkaku/Diayutai rocks!

It seems that Tokyo complains about everything but rejects the fact that their is a territorial dispute involving those rocks!

If those oil platforms belongs to China then it's not even close to the issue of official visits to Yasukuni!

Maybe Beijing can raise some racing pigeons in those platforms and the government of Shinzo will still cry foul!

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Several countries launched protests and complaints over the development in the South China sea. Even a ruling by the UNCLOS made no difference so I don't see how filing a complaint with Beijing will make any difference.

I guess Japan will continue summoning the Chinese embassador as they continue to make advances on the island and eventually build a dock, an airstrip, etc.

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if i were china, i would argue that the radar equipment is necessary for oil field development, as the area and the developments need to be protected from Japanese incursioms. Japan needs to stop provoking China. what could it possibly do, with its pitiful military. drag usa into its mess?

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This is simply the first step, next, they will install the newest SAM's that are already on the islands they built out of a coral reef.

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"...accusing it of unilateral development despite a 2008 agreement to maintain cooperation on resources development in the area, where no official border between them has been drawn."

There was some good cooperation going on back then and for a while after, interrupted by minor spats and then corrected. It was only when Tokyo decided to privatise disputed islands and ratchet up the rhetoric and historical whitewashing that things went completely down the toilet. Japan has itself to blame in part for this, and the Olympic gold in whining won't help them. As Hiro Nobumasa pointed out, Japan doesn't even recognise a dispute, and China is the same -- two peas in a pod.

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wtfjapan

seriously Japan need to militarise the island, invite the US and Japan military to the island. Then put up a big sign reading, "you want it, come and get it"

You're a wasted talent in the second hand car export industry. You should have chosen international diplomacy.

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Japan is a punching bag for the Chinese just as the other nations in teh dispute of territories in the China Seas. China will take the Senyakus very soon as they test the will of Japan and only protests are lodged with the Ambassodor of China and they just file it in the circular can called garbage. Until Japan pokes back and lands a punch in the nose to China they will not stop.

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Just put up your own radar

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Japan's defense minister has alot on her plate. But in the long run, she's all talk & Chinese naval ships & fishing boats will splash around the east China sea and Senkakus all they want.

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As Japan and others may start to see, it was a serious mistake to invest in China and basically develop their economy. These provocations by China were not planned yesterday, but is long on the table. Feeding a bully carry consequences.

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The more Japan cries the more China exerts its power, because they know Japan won't and can't do anything under the control of the US. China is hungry it doesn't care what the world thinks and that is not good.

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The more Japan cries the more China exerts its power, because they know Japan won't and can't do anything under the control of the US. China is hungry it doesn't care what the world thinks and that is not good.

Yup. The Chinese have been humiliated and looked down on for centuries. Not anymore. They're letting EVERYONE know that they will not be messed with anymore. Lots of pride & nationalism. . . . . Guess we'd better get used to it, or get tough. I don't think Japan can get tough. Japan's morale ain't what it used to be these days.

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misunderstoodAug. 08, 2016 - 10:53PM JST The more Japan cries the more China exerts its power, because they know Japan won't and can't do anything under the >control of the US

No you are completely wrong. the JSCG have fired upon North Korean spy vessels within Japanese waters. Defense of territorial border is entirely Japan's responsibility. Only when the opposition attacks in retaliation does the US come in.

Wc626Aug. 09, 2016 - 12:01AM JST Yup. The Chinese have been humiliated and looked down on for centuries. Not anymore. They're letting EVERYONE know that they will not be messed with anymore.

By being aggressive and ignoring international law. Even agreements to which they are a signatory. China's history is not going to end well.

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Bob SneiderAUG. 08, 2016 - 01:09PM JST Japan needs to stop provoking China. what could it possibly do, with its pitiful military. drag usa into its mess?

Japan needs to stop provoking China? What planet do you live on Bob?

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Why doesn't Japan consider to let China have the Senkakus. What would bet the consequence of such a step? I speculation could be as follows. Scenario 1. Chinas achilles heel is energy. They need to create a secure supply to their industries and equipment. China would explore the area to with many many more oil and gas platforms. Of course all protected by a strong military presens. Scenario 2. Maybe it could take up to six months before the Chinese military had Senkakus fully militarised. But the point would not be to strangle Japans position in a first step, it would be to create an iron ring around Taiwan. Islands are much better military posts and can defend against Japanese or US forces trying to aid Taiwan when the Chinese military invade. Only after that Okinawa would be in the eyesight. Maybe it is better for everyone if Japan keep control over the Senkakus for the time being.

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The United States will not allow China to have the Senkakus. It has said so several times. The claim on the Senkakus was originally made by Taiwan which wanted the fishing rights. An agreement with Japan was reached so that Taiwan could fish there. But China usurped Taiwan's claim after 1971, initially for the fishery and potential oil and gas resources. But as the Chinese PLA hawks grew in power and began to talk openly of replacing the United States as the dominant military power in the region, the strategic importance of the Senkakus in terms of their goal f breaking the first island chain and allowing their new blue water navy to get out into the pacific to challenge the US Navy, took precedence over anything else. Today the Senkakus is a strategic issue. And now that China's goals are laid bare for all to see, Japan needs to build on them as soon as possible.Meantime, China continues it's white hull invasion until a joint US-Japan military exercise on and around the Senkakus is conducted. Or maybe go back to using them as live fire bombing grounds.

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@ OssanAmerica Aug 9 5.27am

"By being aggressive and ignoring international law.. Even agree meant to where they are a signatory . China history is not going to end well"

I think you are twisting and fabricating misinformation.

Firstly which international law did China ignore. Secondly what signatory are you referring to. If you are referring to China signatory to the UNCLOS then you should be clear in your comment and also include the Declaration by China of the 2006 in which it clearly stated that it only signed on with the proviso that its sovereignty and Maritimes border are not part of it.

As to your last comment that China's history is not going to end well,you failed to realised that China has a civilisation few centuries ahead of the USA. As far as civilisation concern one could say that USA civilisation is only in its infant stage. So this comment of your does not in any way support your claimed of China's history is not going well.

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RedcliffAug. 10, 2016 - 08:16PM JST @ OssanAmerica Aug 9 5.27am "By being aggressive and ignoring international law.. Even agree meant to where they are a signatory . China history is not going to end well"

I think you are twisting and fabricating misinformation.

Nobody needs to twist or fabricate anything. It's all over the western media outlets. Only the state controlled Chinese news sources correspond with your views. The PAC ruling is binding. Refusal to abide by it, defaming the institution of international law, openly defying the positions of it's neighbors and the international community by increasing it's militarization of the SCS, which Xi Jinping stated will not happen in 2015, all make China look like a uncivilized barbaric country bent on regional domination. The flooding of western media by Chinese foreign ministry propaganda as well as web forums by China's internet army haven't made much dent in world opinion. Regional domination, breaking the island chains, establishing the 9-dash line, creating a blue water navy to push the US out of East Asia are all agendas that have been openly expressed since at least 2002. As for how this will all end for China, look at the history of the United States in the last century. When has the US ever allowed one country, particularly a totalitarian dictatorship, to strategically dominate an entire region?

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You see the sneaky way the Chinese will try to get an edge around the islands. PM Abe need to put an early warning radar, weather, and coast guard stations on the Senkaku islands SO that there is doubt that the islands belong to Japan as it did before the war when Japanese fishermen used the islands to process their catch.

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Japan fears that the radar, a type commonly found on patrol ships and not necessary for gas field development, could be a sign that China intends to use gas exploration platforms in the disputed waters as military stations, Japanese media said

Placing military stations in this manner turns everything into a military target. That leads to very serious problems.

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That leads to very serious problems.

No. What leads to serious problems is the inaction of Japan. What leads to serious problems is Japan hiding behind the US' flag. That & Japanese people who expect young American GI's to spill blood on the Senkakus, but NOT their own sons who've enlisted in SDF.

The Chinese are playing hard ball because in the 30's & 40's Imperial Japan played hard ball up & down the Pacific. But now in 2016, Japanese are a peace loving nation. So who's gona provide that peace? Should be. . . . whichever country is currently "administering" those Senkakus. It's not rocket science. Rollup ur sleeves -freeloading- Japan.

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Only idiots like Donald Trump think Japan is "freeloading". They bear the vast majority of the cost, and are indispensable to US strategic interests in the region. All democratic, and even a few non-democratic nations are basically peace loving, In the context of the East and South China Seas, the only country that is not peace-loving in China. This is a disadvantage for an aggressor like China because attacking one peace-loving country will invariably draw the others into it against the aggressor. The mainstream line of thought has been that China has not attempted to ring the PLAN into the Senkaku issue for fear of the United States, which is very true. But there are those who feel that the JMSDF is quite capable of repelling a Chinese military operation. But it's all speculation, China has no chance of taking the Senkakus by force in any event,

http://www.stripes.com/news/top-marine-in-japan-if-tasked-we-could-retake-the-senkakus-from-china-1.277555

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China has no chance of taking the Senkakus by force in any event,

Of course they do. China's military is primed for conflict. Japan has no stomach for conflict.

They bear the vast majority of the cost, and are indispensable to US strategic interests in the region.

Who care about the money. The real nitty-gritty is that Japan expects American GI's to spill blood, first, for the Senkakus. Japan administers those Islands. NOT the US. Blood thicker than water.

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Wc626Aug. 11, 2016 - 09:51AM JST "China has no chance of taking the Senkakus by force in any event," Of course they do. China's military is primed for conflict. Japan has no stomach for conflict.

Sorry but China has no stomach to face the United States. "If the Chinese invaded the Senkaku Islands, U.S. Marines in the Pacific could recapture them, the commander of Marines in Japan said Friday." http://www.stripes.com/news/top-marine-in-japan-if-tasked-we-could-retake-the-senkakus-from-china-1.277555

"They bear the vast majority of the cost, and are indispensable to US strategic interests in the region. "

Who care about the money. The real nitty-gritty is that Japan expects American GI's to spill blood, first, for the >Senkakus. Japan administers those Islands. NOT the US. Blood thicker than water.

The terms of the Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security between the United States and Japan calls for Japan to be responsible for maintaining it's borders, territorial waters and airspace. Any military attack by China to "take" a Japanese controlled island would face a JSDF response prior to US involvement. The new Collective Defense law allows the JSDF to fight alongside US forces if attacked by China. Try not to parrot Trump on this ok? He has no idea.

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