Japan says it scrambled jets to monitor Chinese aircraft carrier operations

That the Ukrainlan aircraft carry ,China bought saying it was gonna be a floating casino

They should practice I guess.

They haven’t ever won any wars.

Doubling the Japanese defense budget could not have been expected to stop China from displays of aggression. That's why they call it an arms race.

If China, Japan and Korea were friends, they would be unstoppable..

That the Ukrainlan aircraft carry ,China bought saying it was gonna be a floating casino

That was the first, followed by the Shandong and Fujian, which are MADE IN CHINA, and three more to be built before 2030..

China should have a taste of its own medicine and be tailed constantly by Japanese vessels and buzzed by aircraft. So much for a country that is reeling from COVID, all that fuel spent could've been used elsewhere.

China has every right under international law, to carry out these maneuvers. Meanwhile, Japan is spending trillions on American war planes and missiles.

This makes it very clear why China wants the Province of Taiwan as a naval base and why the hegemonic US is desperate to stop it from happening.

which did not report any incursions into Japanese territorial waters or skies.

so basically we are aggressively harassing our neighbor.

And the cost of this harassment is never mentioned. I know fighter jets use $40,000 an hour in fuel, but I can’t find figures on running a warship full of crew. Help anyone?

Why not just land a jet or two on the aircraft carrier, break out a bottle of sake, and be friends?

And China asks why Japan is going to double the defense budget.

thepersoniamnowToday 07:15 am JST

They should practice I guess.

> They haven’t ever won any wars

Ok, first point: that's not true. Japan has "won" wars in it's distant past.

2nd point: any war with China will include the US and Russia, and just who do you think will "win" that one?

Let me help you with the answer:

NO ONE!

It is a frequent practice to create an external event of "threat" to draw attention from internal problems. China has been under serious internal problems by excess of control and lack of effective measures against covid-19 and so needs to make such type of actions to try to divert people focus. Incredibly sad.

so basically we are aggressively harassing our neighbor.

Not at all. We are carefully watching what a military does in their exercises in international airspace and international waters. China does the same.

Learning about exercises is good for both sides and can prevent future misunderstandings.

If you think it costs too much to watch, just wait until it isn't just watching. Then the costs will be 1000x higher.

Gee, we saw that one year Trump paid zero US taxes while paying a big tax return to China. I'm sure that the money he paid to China contributed to China's defense budget.

Nice carrier ya got there China. Wouldn't want anything to happen to it, would ya?

Ken Holmcomb

As a Japanese I am well aware that Japan has won and lost wars.

Assuming Russia is even able to help China besides Nukes.

added the ministry, which did not report any incursions into Japanese territorial waters or skies.

So basically, China were doing their own business.

They should practice I guess

They haven’t ever won any wars

Is that what your Japanese history books taught you?

If China, Japan and Korea were friends, they would be unstoppable..

Japanese & Korean overlord in Washington won't permit that..

any war with China will include the US and Russia

The US? The most America will do would be selling their missiles & providing intelligence, all the while their vassal states doing the dirty jobs for them

It is a frequent practice to create an external event of "threat" to draw attention from internal problems

Yup, that's what Japanese politicians are practicing right now.

Assuming Russia is even able to help China besides Nukes.

Assuming the US is even able to help Japan besides selling missiles & providing intelligence.

Fair enough, fair enough! When the Japanese carrier "Kaga", the dive bombers on board take off and bombed Shanghai in 1937 after Marco Polo bridge shootings, the Chinese people were as anxiety to seek for bomb shelters. History is fair sometimes but not for everyone!

Good of them to confirm to China they're concerned

Japan says it scrambled jets to monitor Chinese aircraft carrier operations

A phone call would have been cheaper. It Japan is curious about China's military exercises, why not just ask? Kishida and Xi did agree to work on improving their relations.

After Russia's "No we aren't going to invade we're just doing exercises" routine in February 2022, any military exercises carried out by autocratic nations close to any country's borders needs to be watched carefully.

elephant200Today  11:38 am JST

Fair enough, fair enough! When the Japanese carrier "Kaga", the dive bombers on board take off and bombed Shanghai in 1937 after Marco Polo bridge shootings, the Chinese people were as anxiety to seek for bomb shelters. History is fair sometimes but not for everyone!

History goes around and around. Those Imperial Japanese Navy dive bombers were attacking the People's Republic of China in 1937. Which today in 2023 is cheering on Japan's military upgrading.

This makes it very clear why China wants the Province of Taiwan as a naval base and why the hegemonic US is desperate to stop it from happening.

That's unfortunate then that China can't get it without committing warcrimes or ending it's criminal party rule. Guess it will have to live without it.

Assuming the US is even able to help Japan besides selling missiles & providing intelligence.

Those F-35s do work I'm pretty sure unlike everything Russia has ever produced, apparently.

China has every right under international law, to carry out these maneuvers.

And Japan has every right under international law, to monitor those maneuvers.

May i also propose among the comments here?

That whatever/all, that the Chinese are doing in the East/South China sea, are in response to what the American have created, the island chains, around China, which will be used, if required, to impose an embargo, like the one around Cuba.

So, if the American removed these island chains, then all the East Asia Countries can work together, using their resources, more trade etc, etc, to improve their peoples life, instead of buying more arms etc, etc.

Interesting read about the Chinese WZ-7 mentioned in the last paragraph.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/japanese-fighters-intercept-chinas-high-flying-wz-7-drone-for-first-time

thepersoniamnowToday  10:55 am JST

As a Japanese I am well aware that Japan has won and lost wars.

Can you name a war where Japan lost, aside from WWII?

@TokyoLiving Keep Dreaming LMFAO Raider 21!!!! Done deal!!!

If China, Japan and Korea were friends, they would be unstoppable..

That the Ukrainlan aircraft carry ,China bought saying it was gonna be a floating casino

That was the first, followed by the Shandong and Fujian, which are MADE IN CHINA, and three more to be built before 2030..

@Andy LMFAO Read your words posted below and there's the answer to your illogical post as to why Japan is spending trillions of dollars on defense. Yes, its international waters and Japan has every right to scramble aircraft to monitor whats going on. If some one drives and parks it in the middle of the street in front of your home where you live and sit there doing nothing. Do you not pay any attention to the person just sitting there in their car or just ignore the car sitting there thinking its a public street. The guy can sit there as long as he wants he is not bothering anyone and go on about your business? No you will pay attention because you have never seen this before!! Even though the guy has every right to sit in front of your home because IT IS A PUBLIC STREET!

China has every right under international law, to carry out these maneuvers. Meanwhile, Japan is spending trillions on American war planes and missiles.

Assuming Russia is even able to help China besides Nukes.

Russia makes good planes, when they get around to it.

They can also provide fuel, which is necessary for any war.

China has their own nukes. Actually, I think China has a sane amount compared to Russia and the USA. I truly hope they are constantly modernizing the Chinese nuclear arsenal, so they don't have accidents that kill millions in China.

A phone call would have been cheaper. It Japan is curious about China's military exercises, why not just ask? Kishida and Xi did agree to work on improving their relations.

Xi would simply lie. He's done it before and it seems to be a way of life in China (govt lies, students lies, business lies). Xi and Obama agreed not to allow cyber attacks around 2011. That same day, my servers saw over 100K attacks from Chinese. It is odd to see that the attacks follow the business day schedule for Beijing.

The only way to know what China is doing is to watch them or have another trusted friend do the watching.

So, if the American removed these island chains, then all the East Asia Countries can work together, using their resources, more trade etc, etc, to improve their peoples life, instead of buying more arms etc, etc.

That's interesting that you believe that the US can remove entire islands. It's equally implausible as getting these countries to like criminal China, though.

China should have a taste of its own medicine and be tailed constantly by Japanese vessels and buzzed by aircraft. 

Their major warships are generally tailed by US, Australian, Canadian or Japanese maritime patrol aircraft and sometimes other platforms like the recently buzzed RC-135 or EP-3s. They won't buzz or try to annoy the Chinese ships, but they want to collect as much data as they can about their electronic emissions and will drop sonobuoys to record their acoustic signature for use by allied submarines (having the acoustic signatures of ships allows submerged subs to be able to identify sonar contacts without having to put a periscope up for a visual identification). Often the Chinese will harass these recce platforms. Sometimes a Coast Guard Cutter or a navy destroyer will tail a Chinese or Russian naval force collecting similar data. The Russians certainly did the same with US forces at sea. We always had visits by TU-95 Bears, Il-38 Mays and the ubiquitous Russian "fishing trawlers" bristling with antennas that never dropped a net in the water.

@thepersoniamnow, quote: “They should practice I guess. They haven’t ever won any wars.”

The Chinese? The Japanese? Who are ‘they’?

You keep saying how great the Raider is however there's plenty of information to prove the Raider isn't as capable as the Russian PAK DA

Have you actually compared them ?

PAK/DA doesn't exist beyond a paper study and probably preliminary designs. There is no hardware yet. Nothing has been prototyped. The B-21 was being ground tested before it was publicly revealed, and will fly very soon. Six more are being built right now.

The artwork depicting the PAK/DA shows wingtip vertical stablizers. That tells you two things. Number one it won't have nearly as low an RCS as a B-2 or B-21. Number two it tells you that the Russian designers do not know how to achieve adequate directional stability and/or yaw control without them. Their understanding of the flight control laws are not as advanced as the US. Difficulties with yaw control are why Northrop's first two flying wing bombers, the YB-35 and YB-49 never became production aircraft. There were also problems controlling the center of mass as fuel was burned and ordnance release because the pitch axis and center of mass are very close on a flying wing. If the center of mass moves behind the aerodynamic center you have stability problems. Both the yaw and pitch stability problems are solved by digital fly by wire flight controls, an area where Russia has lagged significantly behind the most advanced western designs.

As for some of the fanboi nonsense about the PAK/DA being "hypersonic" or even supersonic, that is not the case. As the Russian engineers openly state, there is no way to remain stealthy at supersonic speeds. Why? The shock wave created by supersonic flight is easily detected by radar, giving the aircraft's position away.

The ROC overthrew the Qing Dynasty and took control of Taiwan.

For the sake of historical accuracy Taiwan along with Penghu Island became a Japanese colony in 1895 after the Qing defeat in the First Sino-Japanese War. Sun Yat-sen's nationalist forces did not defeat the Qing until 1912. It was not until Japan was defeated in WWII that ROC gained control of Taiwan.