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Japan to join U.S. efforts to curb high-end chip exports to China

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TokyoLivingToday  07:35 am JST

Such a childish attitude from those envious clowns, they can do what they want, China is now producing their own chips and they are making great progress..

CCP supporters are the only clowns here.

"China has been developing modern semiconductor technology for more than 30 years, with its state capital support to the industry greater than those once provided by Japan, South Korea and Taiwan during the development phases of their chip industries.

Chinese financial support and policy incentives are still in progress and even strengthening. However, quite different from its panel industry, China's semiconductor sector has not achieved the expected development results. "

Why China's semiconductor development falls short of expectations (digitimes.com)

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It's not envy. It is all about preventing the Chinese military from acquiring advanced western technologies and using these to make more capable weapons. Japan and Netherlands have an obvious interest, but especially Japan, in preventing China from improving their military hardware more rapidly. Without access to to the most advanced western chipsets or the technologies that produce them Chinese weapons technologies will lag that of the west. Considering the Chinese population and the size of their military that technological edge is the difference between deterring a war or looking weak and inviting one. A big part of this is to make China always question their ability to prevail in a war to the point they won't risk it.

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Chinese students, restaurant owners, other business owners and tourists will just steal them from Japan! There will also be scores of corrupt Japanese business men selling them to China anyway.

You can still buy ivory made goods in Japan!

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When Biden ran for president he said the US would out compete China. Now Biden's policy is to kneecap China to win the race at the expense of the health and well being of Chinese citizens.

On the domestic front, my niece who works for Nvidia told me they are losing $400 million of sales a year to China. Maybe some of the $52 billions dollars of tax money in the Chips Act will be used to compensate. Someone has to pay.

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"Despite Western media reports that the Netherlands would follow the US guidelines on technology exports to China, ASML’s chief executive Peter Wennink said Wednesday that the company would probably maintain its level of exports to mainland China this year.

ASML’s sales of chipmaking equipment to China rose from about US$700 million in 2016 to US$2.8 billion in 2022."

https://asiatimes.com/2023/01/ceo-says-us-chip-ban-wont-hurt-asml-china-revenue/

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It was the USA that taught the advanced technologies of chip manufacturing/wafers and semiconductors.

Not true. Those are highly controlled technologies and China does not possess them. China cannot produce the most advanced chips. They do not possess the forges and software necessary. These are most US designed technologies, the software is almost 100% sourced from the US, and the US is prohibiting the transfer of this tech to China. Only certain allied nations are permitted to have the tech but they have to agree not to sell it to anybody. It is critical from a military standpoint to deny China access to these technologies.

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Chinese students, restaurant owners, other business owners and tourists will just steal them from Japan! There will also be scores of corrupt Japanese business men selling them to China anyway.

Assuming China could find a way to incorporate chips cannibalized from commercial products into its military hardware they could not steal enough in the manner you describe to be militarily relevant. Possessing the chips doesn't mean they have the tech necessary to produce them.

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Despite Western media reports that the Netherlands would follow the US guidelines on technology exports to China, ASML’s chief executive Peter Wennink said Wednesday that the company would probably maintain its level of exports to mainland China this year.

Yes. Older tech is not a big problem. The restrictions apply to the most advanced chips, which are not yet being manufactured in China by anybody, Chinese or a western firm.

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@deanzaZZR

When we are market leaders, we champion free markets. When we are falling behind, we champion government interference.

Free market is just rhetoric that no one actually believes, not even the most ardent libertarians. It's always been about what is best for the country.

The real question is, do we really want China growing stronger and challenging us? To that, I think most people around the world would say no.

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Except that Japan doesn't and can't make high-end chips.

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Such a childish attitude from those envious clowns, they can do what they want, China is now producing their own chips and they are making great progress..

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America commands and puppy dog Japan wags his tail and does just as he's told. I'm surprised at the Netherlands, though.

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