Japan to roll out plans to back Ukraine at 'appropriate time,' U.S. official says

Here’s an idea for the couple of weeks / months :

1) Kishida pay a visit to Kiev

2) Send Ukrainian troops to Japan and South Korea to train on weapons systems

3) Ship said weapons to Ukraine

In the name of international peace and democracy

Concerning Ukraine there is no appropriate time to help.

Now is the only right time to help Ukraine, Prime Minister of Japan Mr Fumio Kishida.

Dear Kishida San..

Why you don't roll out plans to improve the problems of your country and your people first...

Your exaggerated subservience to the US is hurting Japan !!..

And risk losing their share of the Sakhalin-II gas project?

"Appropriate time"= nothing of any substance will be forthcoming from Japan before Russia is out of Ukraine.

Your exaggerated subservience to the US is hurting Japan 

how about keeping your anti American sentiments out of this.

maybe he wants to help a country that is being invaded, & destroyed, just because it’s the right thing to do.

Dear Kishida San.

Why you don't roll out plans to improve the problems of your country and your people first...

Your exaggerated subservience to the US is hurting Japan !!..

Its gotten so bad now that it risks a major backlash among the Japanese population. If the American regime were collectively smarter, they would tell Kishda to step back and keep some distance.

It's pretty incredible Tokyo has gotten a pass so far with what little they have offered. All because some LDP old timers believe they can work out a deal for the 4 islands off of Hokkaido ("Northern Territories"). Abe tried. It didn't work. It's even more unlikely now.

Translation of Kurt Campbell’s remark: buy more US-made weapons at exorbitant prices and send more money to Ukraine so they can keep fighting.

"Appropriate time"? What, when the war is over?

How about "now"?

some LDP old timers believe they can work out a deal for the 4 islands off of Hokkaido

I doubt that. The Russian amended the law to absolutely rule out giving any territory away. At the time they specifically referred to those islands. Now they are saying the same thing about Kherson, Zaporozhye, Dobass. More likely, much to Kishida's irritation, some LDP old timers are unwilling to sacrifice the Japanese economy in the service of rapidly failing US imperialism.

Weapons systems, support vehicles and training of Ukrainians would be on the table for Japan. I really hope they are decided on soon.

The more nations providing material support for sovereign Ukraine, the sooner fascist Russia will realise they have no chance of taking over parts of Ukraine.

It is a war fascist Russia cannot win, and has already seen more invading cowards buried than were when they failed in Afghanistan. They will continue to be buried.

They will continue to be buried.

Stop talking in such a way...U even don't imagine the losses chez ukraniens. On telegram today a video: long-long corridor , dozens of ukranien soldiers are put parallel one another in a row... А man with the word "press" tells that in Soledar there are some such angers with the bodies of killed ukrs...it's a scary picture. Stop arming Ukraine!

... it's been about a year. Seems exactly what Japan would do. Nothing at all for a year. And now they are saying they will do something at the appropriate time.

Maybe after the war is over?

"...a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter, without adequate inducement or justification." - George Washington

top talking in such a way...U even don't imagine the losses chez ukraniens. On telegram today a video: long-long corridor , dozens of ukranien soldiers are put parallel one another in a row... А man with the word "press" tells that in Soledar there are some such angers with the bodies of killed ukrs...it's a scary picture. Stop arming Ukraine!

That's a few days old now. The reporter is Murad Gazdiev from RT. Yesterday evening, Japan time, they announce the number of POWs. They said 100s, with dozens of foreign mercenaries. So far confirmed from USA, Canada, UK, Scandinavia and the Baltic states.

A rabidly anti-Russian Belgian politician said a few days ago, the arming of Ukraine is looking like an anti-Ukrainian sadistic slaughter.

This is going to enrage the pro-Putin brigade.

A rabidly anti-Russian Belgian politician said a few days ago, the arming of Ukraine is looking like an anti-Ukrainian sadistic slaughter.

This is what the Russian propaganda machine would have you believe. Of course, anyone in the real world knows that Ukraine is fighting for their country.

I just watched the new All Quiet on the Western Front. It's set at the end of WWII when the Germans are losing, from a German perspective. Sure, they're still fighting, but they've already lost, their leadership just refuses to admit it and keeps sending them en masse to their death. Through the whole movie, the parallels to Russia currently losing in Ukraine was very, very apparent.

Russia's 72 hour campaign has turned into 100,000+ dead Russians, and lost territory. But the leadership won't admit it, so Russian soldiers keep dying.

This does seem a bit like joining in at the last stage to claim victory. A bit like when Russia declared war on Japan in 1945.

An appropriate time? Let me guess, when it’s all over.

The appropriate time is now, prevarication just allows the russian fascists to murder yet more children and civilians and makes Japan’s government look weak and immorally more interested in business and money than doing what is right because it is right.

There isn't any pro-putin brigade on this forum !

There are people who post the exact propaganda that the Kremlin is putting out. They are clearly pro-putin.

To date, the U.S. has given Ukraine more than $110 billion in assistance to that nation. As a minimum, the correct thing to do now is for Japanese government to match that amount to help President Zelenskyy in his fight against Russia.

ive been saying for years now that Russia would milk Japan for all its worth over the Kurils Islands, only to decide to keep them .

That would be the Soviet union by the way

and what is different compared to todays Russia, still an undemocratic dictatorship

Its not a simple good versus evil that many on this forum seem to think.

oh I can clearly see which side continues to target civilian populations

Send Ukrainian troops to Japan and South Korea to train on weapons systems

South Korea won't even join Quad Alliance to balance China.

They won't make statements of Taiwan emergency is a S.Korean emergency.

S.Korea won't do anything for Ukraine. Not a Korean Peninsula problem. If you want S.Korea to be involved, it has to do with Korea itself or Korean waters or money involved.

Does it seem the war in Ukraine is at it's last stage ?

Did I say that? Has Japan announced their plan yet?

Hmm....

Hmm…. Indeed.

There are people who post the exact propaganda that the Kremlin is putting out. They are clearly pro-putin.

either that or we hate dictatorships that overthrew a democratically elected government with the backing of the US, and using neo-Nazi and ultranationalists to target the 25% of the Russian speaking population with violence and oppression since 2014.

That would be the Soviet union by the way

thank you for the correction and for clearing up that the Soviet Union and Russia are not the same. Russia was a major part of the Soviet Union, of which Ukraine was also a member. Ukraine has never been a part of Russia though, which some people try to claim. Thank you for allowing the opportunity to point that out.

@cenobite

Ship said weapons to Ukraine

There is no Japanese weapon that Ukraine would want.

Korea's problem is the opposite; Ukraine has a long list of Korean weapons it wants, but Korea can't deliver due to the fear of angering Russia. Korea instead supplies arms to Ukraine's neighbors, so that they can donate their weapons to Ukraine.

somebody pls say to that clown that its about time to stop talk a crap and return back on Erath where many of problems in his country remains unsolved and many of us are having very hard times now.list of unsolved issues in Japan is .. .endless.

I am against that even single yen from my taxes to be used to weaponize banderistan.no way.

While US-Japan regime repeat to say "values democracy" usually, they arbitrarily expand undemocratic military politics that lacked even deliberation at the Diet of Japan.

wtfJapan...

oh I can clearly see which side continues to target civilian populations

No, you are only being shown civilians that the Kiev regime want you to see. You are not seeing the culturally Russian population in the east being bombed and shot at since 2014.

One could even argue that China has done more to support Ukraine than Japan by not selling weapons and munitions to the Russians. It's a bit funny that countries like Japan and India get a free pass on something so ethically clear and important.

Korea has known China as a powerful neighbor for over 2,000 years dating back to at least the Han Dynasty. Korea will always try to play a balancing role.

South Korea won't even join Quad Alliance to balance China.

Translation of Kurt Campbell’s remark: buy more US-made weapons at exorbitant prices and send more money to Ukraine so they can keep fighting.

That's true. Massive profits are being made by this war. The war is killing people, and big chunks of Ukraine are being destroyed. It would be nice if this were simply good defying evil, but that's just want the propagandists want you to think. There is massive corruption and vested interests on both sides. The average Ukrainian and the average Russian have far more in common with each other than they do with the people pulling the strings and driving this conflict. I'm a Westerner but unlike some Western governments, I derive no pleasure or utility from others (this time, Ukrainians) fighting Russians. The same applied to Syria, Chechnya in the 2000s, and Afghanistan back in the 1980s.

Due to geopolitics and the supply of food and energy, us on the sidelines are also affected by all this in a way that other wars (Yemen, Palestine, East Africa etc) do not. This casts further doubt on whether we should be funding this. Lets send weapons to Ukraine so our electricity bill can go up 40%, our food bill 20%, and some obaachan can't heat her house any more.

@deanzaZZR

Korea will always try to play a balancing role.

That's not the case. Korea learned how to build the majority of its weapons from Russia, not the US.

Korea feels indebted to Russia for having taught them how to build nuclear submarines, aircraft carriers, Mach 6 hypersonic missiles, 800 km/hr Super-cavitation torpedoes, MANPAD, anti-tank missiles, hovercraft, S-400 class SAM, long-range search radars, space rockets, etc and feels it's wrong to betray Russia.

This is why Korea's now the 4th largest arms exporter today while Japan is forced to import even armored vehicles and 155 mm artillery shells, why Japan imports missile defense system but Korea exports it.

Yesterday, it was revealed that UAE decided to turn down Japan's C-2 cargo plane offer and instead decided to join Korea's cargo plane project instead. This was a shocking turn of event because UAE would rather buy into a Korean proposal and wait 10 years than to buy Japan's plane that's already in service.

https://news.nifty.com/article/world/korea/12329-2111064/

韓国紙「ＵＡＥは日本と交渉決裂し、韓国製輸送機を選んだ」…ある条件で１兆出資

今回の尹大統領の訪問と同時に、韓国の防衛産業企業も１５日、ＵＡＥ政府と多目的輸送機の共同開発覚書（ＭＯＵ）を締結したが、これについて韓国のＭＢＣは１７日、「日本の輸送機の代わりに韓国を選んだ」と報じている。

ＭＢＣによると、ＵＡＥは２０１７年から、日本が独自開発したＣ－２輸送機の導入を推進してきたが、いくつかの事情のため変更したとのこと。

https://www.aviacionline.com/2023/01/future-korean-mc-x-military-transport-aircraft-to-receive-emirati-funding/

Future Korean MC-X military transport aircraft to receive Emirati funding

South Korea and the United Arab Emirates yesterday signed a series of memoranda of understanding (MoU) on industrial cooperation, including one that provides for the joint development of a next-generation multi-mission cargo aircraft, based on Korea Aerospace Industries’ (KAI) MC-X project.

Japan is engaged deeply on issues in Ukraine

WTF!!

That’s LDP for “lol let’s be there to smile and shake hands with whoever wins or is willing to send more blondes”

Sorry Ukraine, waiting for the Japanese government to do anything for anyone, especially foreigners, is pointless. More likely the aliens from Independence Day will show up and take care of your enemies than the LDP offering tangible help.

This is code for “after the shooting stops” and we’ll give them loans and try and get some contracts. Maybe export some weapons post war. Pitty they can’t give Ukraine what they need NOW. Eg tanks, artillery, anti tank weapons. Japan still wants everyone to protect them, but still won’t help a country protect itself.

In other words, Japan has no plan so we are now pressuring them into making a plan by announcing it to the world.

Russia and China are both democratic dictatorships !

That's funny. Too bad you don't mean to be. Look up oxymoron in the dictionary.

Strangeland,Yes ,their is lots of dead Russian,they are comparable to those of Ukrainain,by the US Intel ,

Kishida last week stressed the importance of standing up to Russia's invasion, saying that if a unilateral change to the status quo went unchallenged...

This whole conflict started because Russia finally decided to challenge NATO's unilateral changes to the status quo

the same would happen elsewhere, including in Asia

Yes, that is what is worrying me, that the west will set up Taiwan (and maybe Japan) to be the next Ukraine against those who challenge America's hegemony.

The war in Ukraine has been raging on for a year. Exactly when does Kishida think is an "appropriate time"? When the war is over perhaps? Unbelievable.

When is 'The Appropriate Time' for Prime Minister Kishida ??

Well, it's almost a year since the Russian terrorists embarked on their murderous mission against the innocent men, women and children of Ukraine, so all of the urging / eyeing / considering / and other procrastinating tactics which the Japanese Government is so good at must be at an end by now, surely.

I've often wondered if Fumio Kishida is a man or mouse - I think we know the answer now, pass the cheese....

Why is Japan becoming involved in a war that is none of its business?

And please allow me to point out that Ukraine didn't actually become an independent country/ nation until after the fall of the Soviet Union.

And still, not part of Russia.

So your point is moot !

So you weren’t making any point then. Good to know.

Russia ruled Ukraine for 100 years !

It’s irrelevant. That’s all the argument that is needed.

To be fair, Japan hasn't helped much militarily because of its Constitution. It has not been exporting weapons for the same reason. Once the Constitution is amended, Japan will be a significant partner in the fight against Russia-China-NK-Iran.

If it's irrelevant they why did you bring it up ?

Nope. You brought up that Russia ruled over Ukraine. Not me.

You brought that up !

But that is not "Russia ruled Ukraine for 100 years !", which is irrelevant and doesn't change that Ukraine has never been part of Russia.

Ukraine was most definitely part of Russia

No it wasn't. It was a separate territory under the rule of Russia, but not part of Russia. Like India was a separate territory under the rule of Queen Victoria, part of the English Empire, but not actually part of England. You can dispute all you want (which you said you weren't doing) but you're wrong. I haven't forgotten anything.

At appropriate time?!

It looks like we're well past that point already. What are you waiting for?! There won't be a Ukraine if everybody thinks like that, and it'll be even worse when Putin turns his eyes on another neighbor and hoping nobody does anything (or not enough).

"When everyone else supports them and we have no choice then," sucks teeth "then perhaps the mechanism to support Ukraine will have to be strongly considered to be put in place."

That's colonialism not annexation.

It’s widely regarded as colonialism, but for about 100 years from the mid 18th century, around 60% of Indian territories had been annexed by the English.

However populations that are primarily Russian and of Russian decent and want to become part of Russia and were built by Russia is their decision to make

On this I agree. A legitimate referendum could find a solution. Unfortunately, when the majority of a population is removed from the areas in question and a forced referendum is held with the remainder, it isn’t possible to say the population wants to become part of Russia.

Gotta make sure Russia approves first.