Japan, UK, Italy push joint fighter jet development by 2035

Plenty of feed at the armaments trough these days…

Conspicuously missing from this tri-lateral project to jointly develop the next generation fighter jets is the U.S.

Will the U.S. let go of it, being reticent about this three-nation project?

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Will the U.S. let go of it, being reticent about this three-nation project?

US is not involved and is going alone in its 6th gen project. The US project is so ahead in terms of technology the US can't afford to risk leaking its technology.

Conspicuously missing from this tri-lateral project to jointly develop the next generation fighter jets is the U.S.

Will the U.S. let go of it, being reticent about this three-nation project?

The Chair Force (USAF) already has their prototype 6th Generation fighter flying. For now it is called NGAD for Next Generation Air Dominance.

https://www.aero-mag.com/next-generation-air-dominance-17062021/

NGAD is not a single platform either. It has a manned aircraft and unmanned aircraft working in unison along the lines of the "Loyal Wingman" program.

https://www.defensedaily.com/about-17-percent-of-ngad-budget-in-fiscal-2024-is-for-collaborative-combat-aircraft/air-force/

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/03/ngad-is-born-the-air-forces-6th-gen-stealth-fighter-is-already-flying/

NGAD or SR-72? Interesting and apparently deliberate reveal at Groom Lake (aka Area 51).

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44057/mysterious-aircraft-spotted-at-area-51-in-unprecedented-satellite-image

I have no doubt this was a deliberate reveal intended for the Chinese and Russians.

The italian defense minister looks like he can defend Italy all by himself.

The italian defense minister looks like he can defend Italy all by himself.

Lol ! He's a bruiser all right. He reminds me of one of the bad guys in older James Bond movies.

Who initiated to bring down this joint project?　If it were Japan, the U.S. would never fail to interfere and try to botch its success, for Japan must act as the U.S. dictates as far as its defense policy is concerned.

manned aircraft TOTALLY OBSOLETE TODAY, why there's almost no 'close air support' by either side in Ukraine Russian war, EXCEPT drones.

One must understand companies building such fighter aircraft are usually looking for 'Govt' funding for their technology, that they'll use in their commercial divisions, strictly business folks, your tax dollar subsidizes their commercial product development!

Meanwhile, all their engineers know full well fighter aircraft have no practical use case in 21st century high tech battlefields, so simply money down the toilet, toys for military etc.

All these political types organizing such ventures are big fans of 'cookie-jars' with YOUR MONEY IN IT, soft jelly belly types rather than GI Joes!

Thanks for the info, Desert Tortoise. Very interesting.

Meanwhile, China scrambles around the world looking for the computer chips necessary to keep its current aircraft relevant beyond the next five year time frame: good luck with that! It doesn't want to rely on outside chips (for obvious reasons), but its efforts to home-grow its own advanced chip industry have been laughably wasteful and fruitless. And Russia? lol. Long term? Russia's goose is cooked. The wings are already coming off that bird...and the embarrassing state of corruption in Russian arms procurement is now exposed for the entire world to see! Not a good look, Ivan.

China's new best bud and "brother country" Russia's reckless invasion of Ukraine will have long term detrimental consequences for China's own aggressive military ambitions. All we need next is for the Chinese to get caught arming the Russians. It will turn the developed world against the Chinese once and for all.

That little island we live on Japan has no chance against WW3 and dont expect we USA to baby sit you. Also im not looking foward to WW3 I rather play video games all day. But for all you hard core call of duty game players out there wont stand a chance in WW3. Good luck.

One nuke all it takes folks......Russia has nothing to lose to launch it so be serious.

manned aircraft TOTALLY OBSOLETE TODAY, why there's almost no 'close air support' by either side in Ukraine Russian war, EXCEPT drones.

Neither side has a true 5th gen all aspect low observable aircraft like the F-35 or B-2 that can freely operate in well defended airspace and neither side can generate the number of sorties in any given day to overcome their lack of all aspect stealth. The Ukrainians generate under ten sorties per day for their combat jets. The Russians fly more but the Ukrainians have better and denser ground based air defenses, so you have a stalemate. Greater numbers of combat jets on the Ukrainian side and / or stealth aircraft on either side (SU-57 really only has frontal stealth and even that is not world class as their intakes still leave a little bit of the compressor exposed) would blow the air war there wide open.

Meanwhile, all their engineers know full well fighter aircraft have no practical use case in 21st century high tech battlefields, so simply money down the toilet, toys for military etc.

The future is teaming of unmanned aircraft with manned aircraft. There isn't even close to enough satellite bandwidth to allow all airpower to be unmanned and AI is simply not there yet, plus a lot of nations like the US insist the decision to employ deadly force be made by a human, not by AI. You can see the future in projects like the USAF/RAAF Loyal Wingman. Having a manned aircraft control a small number of unmanned aircraft doesn't require satellite bandwidth. Comms are line of sight between manned and unmanned aircraft.

One nuke all it takes folks......Russia has nothing to lose to launch it so be serious.

How can you say Russia has nothing to lose by using nuclear weapons? What I can tell you with some degree of confidence is that Russia cannot employ tactical nuclear weapons without revealing their intentions by taking the weapons out of storage and moving them into position to launch. Such moves are very detectable and you know that the US and NATO are watching this very carefully. If Russia makes those preparations the US and NATO would move. This is exactly the mission the F-117 and B-2 were designed for. The F-35 is the F-117s heir and is a far better equipped aircraft for this mission. The west I think has been clear to the Russians that any attempt to employ a nuclear weapon would be met with an overwhelming conventional response.