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© Thomson Reuters 2024.Japan will work with U.S. for Taiwan Strait peace, top spokesman says
By Yukiko Toyoda TOKYO©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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TaiwanIsNotChina
Not letting 24 million people be annihilated or enslaved?
Ricky Kaminski13
The guru cares little about such trivialities. His politics means he doesn’t need to bother about any of that complex gray zone stuff. Ideologues are magically free from such burdens. His narrative is so simple. The war mongering West.
The CCP dreams about a world full of gurus.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Are you under the impression that the Monroe Doctrine is still in effect? How does the example of Cuba fit into that?
The thousands of anti-ship missiles and hundreds of fifth generation aircraft the US has say otherwise...
When petulant China is dined a win, what do you think the result will be?
isabelle
You already know all the below, and are just cheerleading for the murderous CCP as usual, but for the benefit of others who may not be aware:
1) You cannot hand something "back" to an entity (PRC) that never possessed it in the first place. And the people of Taiwan will certainly not hand themselves willingly to the murderous dictator Xi.
2) The Republic of China still technically exists (as you and others note when you dredge up your "why doesn't Taiwan change its constitution?" argument). It therefore can't have "failed."
3) The PRC is not the "internationally recognized heir" to Taiwan (only among Beijing-friendly countries). As just one example, the US does not support the PRC's claim.
https://www.us-taiwan.org/resources/faq-the-united-states-one-china-policy-is-not-the-same-as-the-prc-one-china-principle/
Many years ago. It doesn't claim that now.
https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2023/08/16/2003804803
A textbook CCP propaganda line. Meaningless noise.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Taiwan government is doing quite well, thank you. Not too sure about that corrupt clique in Peking, though.
TaiwanIsNotChina
You're right, some here think the UN could have been used to declare war on the PRC as an illegal breakaway region of the ROC.
TaiwanIsNotChina
*utter thuggery
happyhere
Taiwan is China
They said it themselves for many years.
Just like Hong Kong and Macau, Taiwan will do fine reunited with the mainland.
TaiwanIsNotChina
You're nothing if not persistent, I'll give you that. Important to note that what the UN says matters f all (by Russia's own example) and that Taiwan has an equally strong legal position for independence.
River
China (PRC) did not even exist until 4 years after WWII ended.
Handing Taiwan back to a regime that didnt exist is a physical impossibilty that even a monkey can understand. Taiwan was handed back legally and correctly to the Republic of China, the internationally recognized heir to the Qing Dynasty.
TaiwanIsNotChina
We did invade states from 1861-1865.
TaiwanIsNotChina
The ROC didn't have the advantage of complete and under thuggery under the guise of ideology along with Soviet weapons. The US restored support for the ROC as soon as it became clear that the CCP was going to be fighting the US in Korea.
TaiwanIsNotChina
It's been that way since the 70s. Welcome to the 70s.
TaiwanIsNotChina
You already had your UN statement on this article but I will be happen to add another matters f all.
TaiwanIsNotChina
It has in recent decades.
factchecker
What a relief. I can get on with my day now with this amazing reassurance.
TaiwanIsNotChina
I'm glad you believe the UN is so powerful that it can be used as a justification for war based on nothing other than the flittering of recognition due to economic coercion. Those of us with a shred of decency recognize the absurdity of such a position, though.
isabelle
At least, 1) avoiding the human disaster that China would cause by an invasion, and 2) maintaining trade flows.
On both of these matters, and more, what happens in the region concerns everyone.
Trying this line yet again, are you?
As everyone knows by now, since you bring this up every time, the only reason for this is China's threat of invasion. The current status quo is an attempt to avoid bloodshed caused by China.
Threatening to invade and annex Taiwan is "sound and consistent with international law," is it? Which international law exactly? Please be specific.
And one Taiwan.
isabelle
And the world hasn't just been standing by on these issues.
Perhaps you're only aware of the Xinhua version of events.
wallace
It's no secret the Chinese Civil War ended in 1949.
JboneInTheZone
I can freely travel from state to state as an American citizen. Chinese citizens need entry and exit permits to be able to visit Taiwan. If China owns Taiwan, why is the Taiwanese government able to dictate the terms for Chinese visitors? That doesn’t sound like “just another state”
TaiwanIsNotChina
The same Trump that now doesn't want to ban Tik Tok and whose VP says Taiwan needs to pay up?
TaiwanIsNotChina
More like with a running dog CCP only 100 years old, history does not matter to the CCP.
Ken
They don't own Taiwan, the greed of China is to keep taking inch after inch while most other countries have evolved from being that shameful you have China and Russia that are ran by the power hungry
isabelle
Per my comment above, they don't say it now.
And they never said they were part of the PRC.
TaiwanIsNotChina
I'll let you in on another secret: nobody else in the world is going to see it as just a civil war with a 75 year pause.
JJE
Taiwan in not a UN recognized sovereign state and as such should not be considered a nation. It is a separatist province.
JboneInTheZone
Good luck :)
I can’t name a single successful military campaign from China against a foreign power but I’m sure this time you’ll get ‘em!
TaiwanIsNotChina
Excellent news. The main naval and air powers in the Pacific must stand up for Free Taiwan.
happyhere
Let's not forget Taipei claimed to be the capitol of all of hina and this was recognized by the UN. Can't have it both ways.
rocketpig
Taiwan belongs to Japan. Just look at the number of Taiwanese living in Japan working quietly to keep it that unwritten way.
Also if ever Taiwan goes back to China, Japan will be in big peril because the sea route to and from Japan needs to go through Taiwan. It's a matter of survival.
Just like Okinawa, the Japanese think it's theirs but the Americans still think their gift to Japan is not a gift. They still think it's American. With Okinawa, you also control Japan.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Yeah, they could be lobotomized and have the free press driven out like Hong Kong. Thankfully that will never happen as Taiwan is protected by 130 km of water and the US Navy and Air Force.
Peter14
What is actually important to note is that ROC existed and controlled Taiwan and mainland China before the revolt by the CCP which separated the two entities in a civil war. A war in which ROC never surrendered. And that a number of UN memers officially recognize Taiwan (ROC). The speratist region is the CCP controlled mainland.
No it is inconsistant with any law, and has nothing in common with anything anywhere else in the world. A Beijing fantasy to back its illegal claim of ownership of an indepenent nation.
moonbloom
US has also played a major role in the rift between the two Koreas including drawing the geographical line.
Similar story in Palestine and numerous other places.
JJE
There's no signed peace agreement which means it is still a state of civil war.
The best way forward to necessary eventual reunification, sooner rather than later, is implementing the successful Macau and HK models.
Alternative would be as a separatist province; a completely legal war to bring it into the fold.
Peter14
Lets be clear, ROC did not separate from PRC. The PRC separated from ROC which existed long before the creation of the CCP. In addition there is nothing that says to be a sovereign nation requires UN recognition. A number of UN members have long recognised ROC. In fact ROC was a founding nation of the UN.
dbsaiya
Hayashi reiterated the importance for dialog with China. Since when have the LDP had dialog with China? The EU and several European countries have flown half way around the world to visit Xi, but Kishida can't even hop across for talks. Instead he flies around the world harping about China's threat like Chicken Little. Gimme a break...
OssanAmerica
29 nations militaries are conducting the 2024 RIMPAC exercises to let China known the world is not going stand idly by if the CCP dictatorship chooses to start a war. China is alone in its beligerent threats and behavior.
China needs to worry about its own faltering economy and dissatisfaction among its own people instead of stoking off the deep end nationalism to restrain their dissent.l
Legrande
Good ol LDP doing what it does, being faithful to its creator and main supporter.
quercetum
To give perspective, the Republic of China was so disgustingly corrupt that the U.S. had no choice but to withdraw their support. Just pulled the plug in them and so tgey lost the war.
quercetum
You’re not a part of the we, and we know that.
Ken
@GuruMick
Do you know anything at all about what happens in China and what they do to their own people who don't act as spies to different countries or how it is illegal to say anything bad about the government or at least google Tiananmen Square and look into how the death anniversary of that date they have police guarding it and so much more. As well as them taking control of Hong Kong.
Don't defend China if you don't even understand what are some of the things they have done
TaiwanIsNotChina
Not engaging in piracy is what separates civilized Taiwan from uncivilized PRC.
happyhere
Who is kidding who? Can't make this stuff up.
deanzaZZR
Don't forget the South China Sea. The funny thing is that former Taiwan leader Tsai Ing-wen was too much of a coward to visit Taiping Island to celebrate the completion of a new port there shortly before she left office.
Peter14
Important to note China was an invited and willing spectator and participant in past RIMPAC's until Xi chose to take China to the path of belligerance and confrontation within its region.
Is it? China maintains trade and tourism with Taiwan which negates any idea that a state of war exists. Such a position is simply a way to clumsily attempt to legitimise Chinese desires to expand its territory at the expense of other nations. Taiwan is only one of the nations in China's crosshairs, along with Philippines, Japanese, Vietnamese and Indonesian territory, nations they are supposedly at peace with, technically at least.
Mr Kipling
Fixed it.
JJE
Oh, I see.
When the UN and international law suit one's case, they are invoked. When not, simply cast aside.
How convenient (if lacking consistency).
quercetum
And Tibet and Xinjiang. The desperate attempt of the defense industry to lobby their representatives for the Taiwan Act otherwise known as weapons contract. Focus on manufacturing but just not weapons.
deanzaZZR
Psssst. I will let you in on a little secret. It's an unfinished civil war. The USA continues to interfere but I trust the perseverance of the Chinese people.
Samit Basu
All that the US is asking from Japan is an advance consent to the use of Okinawan bases to launch a military intervention on the day China invades Taiwan. In return, China pledges to declare Japan an enemy combatant(This is legal under international law) and launch thousands of ballistic missiles toward Tokyo(Again legal).
Unless Japan is willing to make this kind of sacrifice Japan shouldn't talk about getting involved in Taiwan.
GuruMick
Taiwan....do you really believe reunification of Taiwan with China will see 28 million people, annihilated or enslaved ?
Where does your mind get such ideas ?
Reunification is inevitable....US should keep out of China's patch, in the same way China doesnt interfere with US' patch...Latin America and the Munroe Doctrine.
The days of bowing to Uncle Sam are coming to an end.
quercetum
Just plain delusional. As if Washington will invade one of its own States.
quercetum
They also claim Mongolia as part of the Republic of China.
mrtinjp
China is alone in its beligerent threats and behavior.
No they are not, and now only DT stands in the way, If KH or someone similar wins than China will 100% move into Taiwan.
ian
Seems usual strong rhetoric is missing.
I thought the US has ironclad commitment to defend Taiwan.
Now the ironclad commitment seems to be limited to selling weapons to Taiwan.
ian
Yes hasn't it always been part of US security policy, promoting democracy?
Pukey2
Taiwan Strait? What has that got to do with Japan or the USA?
TokyoLiving
Whatever you say, captain..
https://media1.tenor.com/m/56hOd5iH2u4AAAAC/running-fast.gif
LOOOOOOOL!!!!...
GuruMick
Apart from war mongering...and maybe computer chips...what real interest has the USA in Taiwan. ?
No oil there.
More anti commie posturing ?
mrtinjp
The same Trump that now doesn't want to ban Tik Tok and whose VP says Taiwan needs to pay up?
And what has this go-to do with China's stance on Taiwan.. only DT will ensure that Taiwan does not become China.
deanzaZZR
Taiwan will be handed back legally and correctly to the People's Republic of China, the internationally recognized heir to the failed Republic of China.
quercetum
Yeah right. The world is NOT going to stand by and just watch Putin’s military operation.
And it is certain NOT going to just stand by and watch Israel bomb civilian facilities.
But Taiwan will be different. Sure.
China’s uses economic leverage eg taking over 50% NipponSteel and U.S. Steel. EV’s, green energy and chips. That’s the real war.
This is a battle between the US defense industry and the manufacturing industry.
China will not give you the pleasure of war. No one is going to get Annihilated. Go and fight to make sure your Ukraine war is prolonged and not terminated by Trump. The money is not in the Asia Pacific.
TokyoLiving
Pathetic charade..
ONE CHINA is unstoppable..
JJE
Important to note this all refers to a separatist region that completely lacks UN recognition as an independent, sovereign state.
As such, Beijing's position on eventual reunification is sound and consistent with international law (not to mention what is happening in other parts of the world).
deanzaZZR
Japanese policymakers are blind to the fact that the only reason Taiwan is separated from China Mainland is because of Japanese colonialism. For a country with a written history stretching back at least 4,000 years history does matter to the Chinese.