Canada's Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida arrive to a joint news conference in Ottawa
Canada's Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida arrive at a joint news conference in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, on Thursday. Photo: REUTERS/BLAIR GABLE
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Japanese delegation to visit Canada to meet with battery, mining companies

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By Steve Scherer and Ismail Shakil

Japan will send a delegation to meet with Canadian battery and mining companies early this year, while Canada is planning a trade mission to Japan later in October, the leaders of both countries announced on Thursday after meeting in Ottawa.

As this year's host of the Group of Seven (G7), Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida came to Canada to meet Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau before continuing onto Washington, where he will sit down with U.S. President Joe Biden on Friday.

"This spring, we're... looking forward to hosting an important business delegation from Japan," Trudeau said. "They're planning to be meeting with Canadian battery and mining companies and potential partners."

The two leaders hosted a lunch meeting with Canadian business leaders where "they highlighted the growing and exciting business potential between the two countries," according to a statement from Trudeau's office.

Canada has been seeking to woo foreign investment the electric vehicle (EV) supply chain, in particular in mining and processing its abundant critical minerals used in EV batteries, especially for countries who want to reduce their dependence on China for those materials.

Earlier in the day, Kishida said that Japan is looking to Canada to "play a major role, as a resource-rich country" on energy.

Japan's Mitsubishi Corp, through a subsidiary, owns a 15% stake in the LNG Canada joint venture led by Shell, which Trudeau said was the "largest private investment in Canada." The liquefied natural gas terminal is being built in British Columbia to supply Canadian natural gas to Asia.

The two leaders agreed that "China is a central challenge," Kishida said during the news conference, and both reiterated their support for the dismantling of North Korea's nuclear weapons program.

To counter China's influence in the region and increase its own strategic sway, Canada launched an Indo-Pacific strategy in November.

Kishida welcomed Canada's diplomatic pivot toward Asia and its efforts to deepen ties with a fast-growing Indo-Pacific region of 40 countries accounting for almost C$47 trillion ($35.2 trillion) in economic activity.

"The two leaders discussed their concerns about China's actions in the region and agreed on the importance of a coordinated approach to security in the Indo-Pacific," Trudeau's office said in a statement.

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Why did the Japanese delegation visit Canada?

To find new ways to dig themselves deeper into debt by partnering with Canadian mining and battery companies,

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Why bother!

Seriously the government has so many regulations (and I am not talking about environmental those generally make sense and protect) I mean things that have nothing to do like needing a gender and minority impact study before even getting approval.

A mining venture not providing equal employment to all genders will have trouble getting approval, (think about how many employees are going to be women wanting to work some remote area mine).

A major Japanese corporation spent millions of dollars to set up a LNG project to export gas to Japan.

10 years wasted time and money they finally threw in the towel, Canada still has no LNG export infrastructure

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It's time for them to both visit the slave encampments in Africa mining cobalt with their hands for all of the batteries we use. It's a travesty hidden and swept under the rug. Spend 1 minute researching and you'll be horrified. The people making iPhones and sneakers have a great life compared to them.

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Japan wants British Columbia to cut down more of its ancient forest to provide Japan with disposable chopsticks

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As resources,(including the most valuable resource - land - become scarcer, countries acting in their own interests and squabbling over scraps will be more common - and destructive.

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Seriously the government has so many regulations (and I am not talking about environmental those generally make sense and protect) I mean things that have nothing to do like needing a gender and minority impact study before even getting approval.

Yes, so much easier to business someplace like Myanmar. Right?

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It's time for them to both visit the slave encampments in Africa mining cobalt with their hands for all of the batteries we use. It's a travesty hidden and swept under the rug. Spend 1 minute researching and you'll be horrified. The people making iPhones and sneakers have a great life compared to them.

It is not swept under the rug. It is why new battery technologies do not use cobalt.

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I’ve finally realized why the Japanese authorities are so addicted to air travel;it’s the only way to carry stuffed paper envelopes…

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Yes, so much easier to business someplace like Myanmar. Right?

Did I say anything about human rights?

Please try and be reasonable!

Human rights, environmental protection and "gender" impact are completely different!

To block a project because it will not provide equal job opportunities to women as men is not a good thing in most cases but if it is an office situation I can understand.

But to block a mining, LNG project because most jobs go to men because only 10% are not manual labour and women rarely want or are capable to do these jobs.

Mining project in NWT spent 3 years trying to recruit enough women to meet the quota set but despite nearly every office job assigned to women they were unable to find even 5% of the number required as few women would take a job in the mines, few were even ready to move to the remote location.

You seem to confuse regulations like environmental and human rights, with political agenda registrations that make sense only on paper but not in reality!

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The Japanese company Mitsubishi Corporation owns 15% through its subsidiary Diamond LNG Canada Partnership. LNG Canada is constructing a terminal at the Port of Kitimat. 70% complete.

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wallace

Today 09:30 am JST

The Japanese company Mitsubishi Corporation owns 15% through its subsidiary Diamond LNG Canada Partnership. LNG Canada is constructing a terminal at the Port of Kitimat. 70% complete

Ahy puppy dog shadow, how long did you spend on duck duck to find it and comment on my post.?

I guess you don't know the background of that "project" what company actually started it when and how long.

We are 2023 this was started in 2004 and not completed it took until 2017 to even get approval to start building.

Chevron finally had enough and pulled out selling its share.

The other half the LNG production near Calgary was proposed in 2014 but we'll by that time even more regulations and well the Japanese company in partnership cut its losses and ran.

So as it stands 19 years and the BC side isn't even open and that was in process before Trudeau and company introduced even more regulations.

So anything Japan does will need a minimum of 20 to 30 years to even start producing anything.

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Anything to reduce dependence on China is welcome.

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An indigenous group has already stated the mining will not happen and with the current government in Ottawa, virtually nothing is getting done. The country is winding down.

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That LNG pipeline was attacked by domestic terrorists a year ago and nobody was been arrested yet. That export terminal remains under threat from Canadian domestic terrorists.

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Together, these two clowns in the photo weigh less than a helium-filled balloon.

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The most valuable resource being human intelligence/cerebral competence

However sadly it's impossible to mine something that barely exists.

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So anything Japan does will need a minimum of 20 to 30 years to even start producing anything.

Plus another decade of dithering beforehand.

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Canada should start by manufacturing more for itself instead of buying almost everything it needs from China - go in a typical store in Canada and try to find something that's not made in China. Like in the UK Canada has put itself in a precarious position by giving most of it's manufacturing away to China, fuelled by the lure of cheap labour to increase corporate profit. And why all these delegations at the taxpayers expense with first class travel, fancy hotels, expensive meals....... Haven't they heard of Teams and Zoom? Oh yes, the priveleges of upper level civil servants and the business community - how about some real level of moderation

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Oh look two inept politicians with as much business savvy as my fart.

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Canada should start by manufacturing more for itself instead of buying almost everything it needs from China

Well unless things change this cannot happen.

Look up Bill C-69.

This is the new "energy" and resource law.

It is disguised as environmentally but includes things like "gender impact" what does that have to do with the environment? Nothing but it is included.

So for any project to get approved it needs to address Gender employment or impact.

And this is why no new projects get approved or are even proposed.

Lithium is available, but Canada doesn't mind it.

Canada instead imports coal powered refined lithium from China.

It would be safer, cleaner to mine and refine in Canada but at a minimum 7 years under pre C-69 to get approval to open a mine and now an estimated 10 years under C-69 to just possibly get approval, what company is going to even try.

So understand this a company has to secure the land and mineral rights.

Then has to do environmental impact study, the a sociological and gender study give all the things they will do to comply.

If parts are rejected the company will need to create a plan to address the government concerns ( this includes finding equal number of jobs for men and women even if no women want to work in a mine).

During this period the company may have to apply multiple times for extensions on the mineral rights for the required areas.

Now remember no jobs have yet been created, nothing has been done, then years in and not even started.

The Kitimat LNG project took 13 years to even get approval 2004 to 2017 by that time Chevron had enough and in 2018 pulled out selling its share.

We are 2023 the project is 70% to 80% complete ( depends on the source some say as low as 60% ) so the investment in time and money will be at least 20 years before on cc of gas is delivered.

This was before C-69 so now expect 30 years before a single gram of ore, a milliliter of oil or gas is even extracted.

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Desert TortoiseToday  09:11 am JST

It is not swept under the rug. It is why new battery technologies do not use cobalt.

It is used as LiCoO2, the cathode in all lithium batteries, even the most advanced.

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So called E-cars advocated by the environmentalists are the number 1 destroyer of the environment. It flattens mountains and strips forests for the mining of lithium, manganese, cobalt and nickel. Then hundred thousands of these so called eco-friendly cars suck energy produced by coal-powered power plants that exacerbates CO2 production. How is it ecological?

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Peter Neil

Today 01:04 pm JST

Desert TortoiseToday 09:11 am JST

> It is not swept under the rug. It is why new battery technologies do not use cobalt.

> It is used as LiCoO2, the cathode in all lithium batteries, even the most advanced.

I don't know exactly what he means but most people making that claim point to sodium batteries.

But the reality is there are certain sodium batteries that do not use cobalt or lithium, all those with anything even close to present lithium batteries replace the lithium with sodium but increase nickel and cobalt.

Lithium batteries without cobalt are now starting to be produced but again limited.

So as it is now, lithium cobalt and iron are the best on the market, sodium nickel cobalt iron are getting close to the same capacity in power, lithium iron are far weaker and sodium nickel iron brining up the rear far in the rear.

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Being in the business, I can see from the posts that many do not have any knowledge about natural resources and what is going on.

First, everyone should know that Canada is having investment seminars in Japan and call for partners. Japan does not force Canada in anyway

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i expect zero outcome from recent Fumio tour,Canada stop no difference.

btw why they are maskless?

not afraid of covid anymore?

or elite dont need to wear just plebs must do?

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master

Today 01:50 pm JST

Canada is closed for business and the world knows it.

> The Germans came begging for the oceans of clean LNG. Trudeau said no.

> The Japanese came begging for the oceans of clean LNG. Trudeau said no.

> Leftists would rather watch a billion people freeze to death in the dark than leave their death cult.

Canada could say yes but what would that have done?

Canada has NO export facility.

that means Canada even if it could process the gas into LNG it couldn't export as nothing exists.

Kitimat proposed in 2004 finally approved in 2017 was supposed to be finished in 2023 but because of delays and a new gender impact study required after Bill C-69 has delayed the facility until 2025 and that is only from a single port on the west coast so Asia customers mostly.

To export to Europe 2 or all of these would be needed.

An export facility on the east coast would be essential.

A LNG processing facility located in the extraction area out west.

And or a pipeline to the east coast port.

Or

An LNG production facility with train line access and upgraded train system and facilities to the east coast port.

Each of these would require a minimum 10 years environmental and sociological gender study to be possibly approved.

That 10 years is if all goes right.

Otherwise "corrective measures" would need to be proposed and a new approval process delaying at least 2 more years if lucky.

So once everything approved, construction can begin.

Minimum 5 years for and LNG processing plant if everything goes well. A minimum 10 years for all the rest if all goes well.

So the best Europe could hope for is 20 years if everything goes 100% without delays before a single little of gas would leave Canada.

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It is used as LiCoO2, the cathode in all lithium batteries, even the most advanced

Nope. This article describes one of several new Li battery technologies that do not use cobalt. There are others.

https://news.utexas.edu/2020/07/14/new-cobalt-free-lithium-ion-battery-reduces-costs-without-sacrificing-performance/

There are other technologies in production now.

https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/11-lithium-ion-battery-makers-that-dont-need-cobalt

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https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-japan-asks-for-natural-gas-trudeau-offers-lectures-on-decarbonizing

Canada is closed for business.

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