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This not gonna end well for Europe,they sold their soul too the devil Putin,but they will pay the economical price starting in December

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Prime Minister Fumio Kishida and his Irish counterpart Micheal Martin "remain appalled by and condemn the devastating attacks" by Russia against Ukraine

But not appalled by the fact that Ukraine military had been shelling the Russian Donbass regions for 8 years with the loss of more than 14,000 citizen lives.

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Every little bit of pain for Putin helps

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that'll show 'em!

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Every little bit of pain for Putin helps

The EU has produced a proposal aimed at unblocking assets at Russian banks for trade in food and fertiliser.

"Member countries "want to make it abundantly clear that there is nothing in the sanctions that is slowing the transport of grain out of Russia or Ukraine," an EU diplomat told AFP on condition of anonymity."

https://www.barrons.com/news/eu-proposes-to-unblock-russian-bank-funds-to-boost-food-trade-01658242507?refsec=topics_afp-news

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Ukraine military had been shelling the Russian Donbass regions for 8 years with the loss of more than 14,000 citizen lives.

The BS number of "civilian casualties" keeps growing with each post.

If anything, Russia already far exceeded the loss of lives with their invasion.

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...but apparently only as the Japanese interests are not too heavily affected. So Sakhalin is to be left alone (at least until Putin kick the Japanese companies out).

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How many Ukrainians have been killed by Russian bombings and shootings? Which country is the invader? Which country supplies the EU with 40% of its gas?

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I am sure that Putin is just shaking with worry!

Japan and Ireland! Well, the big guns are out now.

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It’s Japan rather than Russia that’s facing severe consequences of economic sanctions in the form of rising oil and LNG prices.

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I am sure that Putin is just shaking with worry!

> Japan and Ireland! Well, the big guns are out now.

Haha

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I'm sure Russia really cares what Japan says...

That 1.1% of Russian goods sanctioned tells you where Japan stands. It parrots the US script while trying to carry on as usual.

And Ireland? To quote Stalin....

"How many battalions do they have?"

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The BS number of "civilian casualties" keeps growing with each post.

Curious what Kremlin sources might be saying regarding how many Ukrainian civilians and Russian invaders have been killed. Or are Putin's media even saying some private civilians Ukrainians and ethnic Russian) and Russian invaders have been killed? And is Putin still jailing people for suggesting his invasion and ongoing war was a questionable decision. Has Putin admitted to funding the separatists and helping them take up arms to fight the Ukrainian government. How are the Ukrainians deported to Russia by the Putin regime faring in Russia. Is there any information on how life is in for them in their gulag?

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but apparently only as the Japanese interests are not too heavily affected. So Sakhalin is to be left alone (at least until Putin kick the Japanese companies out).

So Japan should invade Sakhalin island?

Let's just hope common sense prevails in the Japanese government. Allow Europe at USA's behest to shoot itself in the chest but let's leave Japan out of it. Even Europe is quietly and tacitly starting to unsanction Russia. Along with the banks, H&M announced they are reopening. I know it's just a fascicle company which employs people in Bangladesh in fire-prone sweat-shops to make the clothing dirt cheap, then mark the prices up 400% to sell in Russia, China, Japan and Western markets while the Swedish government bleats about "human rights" in other countries but that's why it's a powerful symbol. Such companies are the backbone of Western economies. I bet Starbucks is next to reopen.

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yes but let me say first who will be hit will be citizens of these countries by high costs for fuel,gas-everything and economy in serious trouble.

thanks to these "geniuses" from photo.

Japans position should be peace negotiators one instead of US warmonger poodle!

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Like more sanctions? Well, go ahead. You can kiss the Sakhalin project goodbye.

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Does that mean more sanctions???

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As the Little Justice League of boy scouts barks, Lord Putin laughs out loud.. LOL !!..

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So Japan should invade Sakhalin island?

So the only two options you see are either heavily invest in the project or else invade the place? that makes no sense. There are simple and logical options available like stopping being involved in the project.

Let's just hope common sense prevails in the Japanese government

The Japanese goverment is the one saying Russia should face consequences, either act accordingly to what they are declaring or openly recognize the investments made in Russia are more important than the war in Ukraine, the problem is not common sense, the problem is being honest with the position they will take.

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Japan seems publicly active on provoking Russia because of he has someone on his back. like anybody else. while everyone is starting to get silent, this guy wants to seek the Russian's attention. I hope Japan still has a great economic future

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So the only two options you see are either heavily invest in the project or else invade the place? that makes no sense. There are simple and logical options available like stopping being involved in the project.

So Sakhalin island is "a project"?

The Japanese goverment is the one saying Russia should face consequences, either act accordingly to what they are declaring or openly recognize the investments made in Russia are more important than the war in Ukraine, the problem is not common sense, the problem is being honest with the position they will take.

They are acting and that's the problem. It makes almost no difference to Russia but is having a very negative effect on Japan. Unlike Europe it seems Japan isn't starting to unsanction Russia but is still increasing the sanctions.

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Putin to be gone in 2 months is the word ,hope they are right or Europe will be next ,starting with Moldova , then Poland .

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Putin to be gone in 2 months is the word

Didn't someone already say that like 2 months ago???

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As if the Russians give a damn what Airstrip One (Far Eastern Region) says. They take their orders from Washington.

And as for Ireland, I know you guys are all cocky after beating the All Blacks the other day at rugby, but when it comes to geopolitics you are incredibly irrelevant.

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I really wished Japan did not join the west's mass economic suicide.

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While it may be important for Japan to create good diplomacy with the West, it may be more important to better relations with big China . . . .

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So Sakhalin island is "a project"?

Sakalin-2 is, a well known issue that makes evident Japan's real priorities

https://www.mitsubishicorp.com/jp/en/bg/natural-gas-group/project/sakhalin-2/

There is no excuse to not know about this since it has been repeatedly reported even here a few days ago

https://japantoday.com/category/politics/japan-aims-to-maintain-stakes-in-russia%27s-sakhalin-2-energy-project

They are acting and that's the problem.

For this project they are acting against what they are declaring, eating the cake and having it too is not an honest option. As long as the Japanese goverment says Russia must face consequences this obvious contradiction only makes them look terribly bad.

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Lord Putin laughs out loud.

The Russian religious cult needs to be kept within Russia's current borders. Or has the cult of Putin replaced the ROC? Or is Russia aping the approach of its partner Iran, somehow claiming their wars are religious? Steve Bannon and other extreme right crackpots probably think thy are.

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So Russia stopped genocide in Donbass which for 8 years the UN did nothing to stop, because of Biden’s family connections to Ukraine, neo-Nazis are running around Ukraine paid for by EU, Japan, USA, Canada, Australia and UK…

when I was a child we were told to hate Nazis, now it seems they are the hero’s of “freedom and democracy”.

I feel sorry for the 26,000,000 Russians that died to stop Nazi Germany.

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How many Ukrainians have been killed by Russian bombings and shootings?

actually, apart from a few Russian conscripts, most of the bombings, destruction and murder and torture are Ukrainians on Ukrainians. My advise, don’t speak your native Russian language if you are Ukrainian living in Ukraine.

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So when you are prime minister you get to not wear a mask but your minnions need to.

Very strange

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The two also called for a "peaceful resolution" to tensions in the Taiwan Strait as Beijing piles pressure on Taiwan, deeming it part of its territory that should be reunited, by force if necessary.

Reunification is not through force. Beijing's goal is to reunite with Taiwan peacefully. Force is not the means to reunification but only the last resort if Taiwan declares independence with the backing of the US.

The Ukraine issued applied to Taiwan is not exactly on mark. Viewing this from a big fish eats small fish perspective has limitations. An alternative view is to ensure fighting will not take place on one's own soil.

One factor in the US becoming the sole superpower post WWII is that the fighting did not take place on the continent but in Europe. The strategy of denials is to ensure that mainland United States and all United States military assets are not drawn into direct military conflict with China.

The war going on now is quite clearly a proxy war. It's Ukraine fighting Russia on behalf of the United States. The US sends weapons and money to Ukraine. Well over half of the NATO budget is also shouldered by US taxpayers. The US has already tried this with China in the Chinese Civil War when the government of Taiwan was in China. They lost. The also have tried this in the Vietnam War. Where is South Vietnam now? They tried this with the coup in Ukraine in 2014. They will most likely lost again. Many here think Taiwan is the next Ukraine, but it seems to be more collective to include other allies in the Pacific.

Congressman Adam Schiff made a statement during Trump's impeachment trials that stuck: "The United States aids Ukraine and her people so that they can fight Russia over there, and we don’t have to fight Russia here.”

The United States is aiding Taiwan and the Taiwanese so that they can fight China in the Taiwan Straights over here and so that the US doesn't have to fight China over in the US.

The United States is also aiding Australia (and making Australia finance this aid) so that her people can fight China over here, and so that the US, doesn't have to fight China over in the US.

In Australia, a few are talking ridiculously of preparing for war against China. Australians are not stupid and some have figured the US out. The EU and the UK are still oblivious.

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And Ireland? To quote Stalin....

"How many battalions do they have?"

Didn't Stalin say this in when asked about connections to the Vatican

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I hope Japan still has a great economic future

oh itll do far better than Russia.

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Do you have a reliable source for this information?

You are implying that Russia destroyed basically all of the cities and infrastructure in Donbass because they cared so much about the people living there.

So Russia stopped genocide in Donbass which for 8 years the UN did nothing to stop, because of Biden’s family connections to Ukraine, neo-Nazis are running around Ukraine paid for by EU, Japan, USA, Canada, Australia and UK…

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This is not to defend the atrocities of Russia but Ukraine should not have toyed with the idea of becoming a NATO member. Ukraine is no match to Russia’s military might so Zelenski should not have engaged Russia in a war because you can only expect devastation. Since Ukraine’s President went to the WEF school for young global leaders like most of the important global leaders of the world, he still went to war because the globalist elites thrives in crisis like wars and global pandemic; that is where they get their power and authority.

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Less Guinness and less sake for the Russians. Soon they will be begging for peace.

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Japan and Ireland agreed

What ? Geeze ! Did they ?

Russia must face severe consequences

I couldn't help but sneer and scoff at the announcement Japan and Ireland agree to make Russia face severe consequences.

Are they trying to make putin laugh himself to death ?

There's a reason both the birthrates of Irish and Japanese are so low !

No need to point to the obvious .

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Where were these voices when the U.S. was mindlessly and unjustifiably slaughtering Iraqi's, or when the U.S. was mindlessly and unjustifiably slaughtering Afghanis, or now when the U.S. is mindlessly and unjustifiably slaughtering Syrians? The Russians watched the azovskyys slaughtering their own people who simply wanted separation from a commonly acknowledged corrupt central governnent for SEVEN YEARS before they stepped in and said "No more!". And the Russians are the BAD GUYS? America is not the only country whose policies are based on HYPOCRISY and, while Japan has an arm twisted up to its shoulder blades, Ireland, proving its 'shanty' roots, is a major disappointment.

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Sakalin-2 is, a well known issue that makes evident Japan's real priorities

You are talking about the Sakhalin 2 oil and gas project? Well that makes sense. You may it sound like Japan should invade Sakhalin island.

There is no excuse to not know about this since it has been repeatedly reported even here a few days ago

I know about it. It helps for you to say "Sakhalin 2 oil and gas project" rather than just "Sakhalin" which is a relatively large island just north of Hokkaido.

For this project they are acting against what they are declaring, eating the cake and having it too is not an honest option. As long as the Japanese goverment says Russia must face consequences this obvious contradiction only makes them look terribly bad.

I thought the Japanese gov has been declaring for months that sanctions on oil, gas and Sakhalin 2 specifically won't be included in any Japanese sanctions as such imports are vital to Japanese national security. Are you in favor of the Japanese gov basically blowing it's own economic head off in order to spite Russia? What makes you think the Russians would care?

Putin has already basically threatened Japan by seizing control of Sakhalin 2. The Japanese companies are still partners in the project....... at this time.....

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Hello kitty and the leprechaun

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Kishida's 'severe consequences' is as powerful as his "strong concern" of China's expansion, in other words, nada, zilch

As for Ireland, Putin probably doesn't even know where it is

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The leaders of Japan and Ireland

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Prime Minister Fumio Kishida and his Irish counterpart Micheal Martin

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Micheal Martin is not the leader of Ireland

He is the leader of the Republic of Southern Ireland.

Which is part of the island of Ireland.

Northern Ireland is an separate country and part of the United Kingdom and not under his control.

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That may change in the future.

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Azzprin

There is no such place as the Republic of Southern Ireland.

It's the Republic of Ireland.

Surprised you don't know that already

Just like the rugby team we will be all together very soon

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Why was the un-elected EU flag there or was it a joint EU Japan meeting. The Republic of Ireland is also called, "The free state" and Eire whilst the north is known as Ulster or Northern Ireland which is part of the UK.

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Gasprom restarts supplying gas to the EU.

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No one calls Ireland the free state apart from bigoted politicians who live in a time warp

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Even Turkey has no respect for Putin he was left picking his nose waiting for the Turkish leader to have a talk with him!! There goes his loss of respect

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Who cares.... Russia I bet doesn't - Instead, they simply need to say "Need some Oil or Gas anyone" ... and watch how the tune changes...

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They got Russian money, Russian got the oil they need to sustain their economy, Ukrainain got only their pity to offer,you figure by Christmas who will be in the driver seat

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Great to see a positive & friendly diplomatic event between two great nations Japan and Ireland.

A lot of racist anti-Irish comments above.

Ulster is a Provence of Ireland. Northern Ireland is only a part of Ulster which is an imposed bigoted anti-catholic administration. Ireland was threatened to allow it or it would face a full attack on its cities, bombing etc by Britain. A bit like Putin's idea of "negotiations".To hear British politicians criticize Russia for its dubious offers to negotiate with Ukraine would be funny if it wasn't so serious.

Prime Minister Fumio Kishida would be made very welcome if he visited Ireland, as Irish people are, like Japanese people, very friendly people.

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Ukrainain always want others too pass resolution condemning Russian,when their corrupt legislature,has not pass one anti corruption legislation,since the war,and appoint pro corrupt Russian agents,to oversea all this aid

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Deal reach to put Ukraine contaminated grain on the world marketplace with Russia

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I would think that Ireland's genuinely neutral position, whilst also being well established inside the EU has potential for being a positive peaceful influence, in a time of such instability. Hopefully. But this subject has broght out a really ugly latent anti Irish sentiment that exists on this platform that's for sure. It is really shocking.

Can posters not present a reasoned, logical , rational argument instead of explicit racist comments please?

You are bringing this platform down with you. Thank you.

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Ireland is a wonderful country

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You are talking about the Sakhalin 2 oil and gas project? Well that makes sense. You may it sound like Japan should invade Sakhalin island.

Absolutely nobody with a minimum of common sense would ever understand that, you were the only one saying so without any justificable reason.

I know about it. It helps for you to say "Sakhalin 2 oil and gas project" rather than just "Sakhalin" which is a relatively large island just north of Hokkaido.

This is a well known issue related to the article, ignoring this completely would mean you are not informed enough in the topic you want to have an opinion about. Nobody else make that invalid jump to conclusions but you.

I thought the Japanese gov has been declaring for months that sanctions on oil, gas and Sakhalin 2

And that is what runs completely against what they are declaring Japan needs to do, so the Japanese government has two valid option, abandon Sakhalin and be congruent with their declarations or openly accept their priority is to support the project so they will not be sanctioning Russia as they said they would.

Saying something and then doing the opposite is not valid, no matter what excuses are being said about it.

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AxelJuly 21  08:54 am JST

So Sakhalin island is "a project"?

Good point.

Apparently others were not aware of the distinction between the island and the projects there, until they did some research and tried to come back to make it seem they knew what they were talking about.

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Good point.

Ignorance about a well known situation is a good point?

Apparently others were not aware of the distinction between the island and the projects there, until they did some research and tried to come back to make it seem they knew what they were talking about.

That makes no sense, Sakhalin has no other importance in the topic of Japanese enforcement of sanctions against Russia. anybody following the situation can easily guess why it is brought to the conversation in this article.

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Ignorance about a well known situation is a good point?

It becomes well known after an unknown situation is researched for the purpose of making a comment trying to show prior knowledge of it.

That makes no sense, Sakhalin has no other importance in the topic of Japanese enforcement of sanctions against Russia. anybody following the situation can easily guess why it is brought to the conversation in this article.

See above comment.

Face it--you were perturbed because you made a vague reference to something with which you were not familiar, and then someone called you out on it. And you replied trying to defend your little point.

Anyone with a minimum of common sense understands this.

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It becomes well known after an unknown situation is researched for the purpose of making a comment trying to show prior knowledge of it.

That is the point, the one that ignored the situation in Sakhalin is the one making the point, so it would not be good, making unreasonables jumps of logic for a location that only has one single point of importance in the topic is precisely making a bad point because of that ignorance.

Face it--you were perturbed because you made a vague reference to something with which you were not familiar, and then someone called you out on it.

No, that is still nonsense, why else would anybody mention Sakhalin in the contect of Japan sanctions against Russia? what other reason would merit attention to the place? There is no need to research what is frequently discussed about the topic, for all except for one person that apparently ignored even the first thing about it.

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Japanese, Irish leaders agree Russia must face 'severe consequences'

Cut off your nose to smite your face? So far all these "consequences" of sanctions have been on the side of the sanctioneers, not on Russia.

NATO/EU/US are find out that it is one thing to bully small, dependent countries, but another to try that on a superpower and major ressource supplier.

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That is the point, the one that ignored the situation in Sakhalin is the one making the point, so it would not be good, making unreasonables jumps of logic for a location that only has one single point of importance in the topic is precisely making a bad point because of that ignorance.

Really going out of the way there to blame someone who asked you for clarification, huh?

No, that is still nonsense, why else would anybody mention Sakhalin in the contect of Japan sanctions against Russia? what other reason would merit attention to the place? There is no need to research what is frequently discussed about the topic, for all except for one person that apparently ignored even the first thing about it.

Obviously your initial comment mistakenly left out anything related to the specific project, and when someone made a sarcastic comment pointing out that misunderstanding of yours, you resorted to insulting him. After you researched the subject.

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Really going out of the way there to blame someone who asked you for clarification, huh?

Blame someone that disqualifies other people opinions based completely on ignoring something central to the topic.

Obviously your initial comment mistakenly left out anything related to the specific project

Because it is something obvious for anybody following the topic since it has been widely reported in the Japanese media.

Many other obvious things are also left out, like Russia and Japan being close, if someone come making an outrageous claim (like Japan having to go accross the American continent to reach Russia) it would also be a completely illogical comment that would betray lack of knowledge of something that should have been obvious from the beginning.

There is nothing to research, you yourself failed to answer the question so I can repeat it again, Why would anybody mention Sakhalin in the context of Japanese sanctions to Russia if not for the energy project?

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Yeah, what are Japan's "severe consequences" for Russia going to be? They are going to look at them sternly while begging to still be a part of their gas projects? While they beg their business in Russia not be affected?

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Not anti Irish at all, let's face it, if any trade between Ireland and Russia reduced to zero tomorrow, Putin wouldn't notice, if he did he wouldn't care. Not sure how much it is but I suspect negligible in the grand scheme of things.

And why would he worry with the EU still sending billions in monopoly money for gas as they messed up their energy strategy.

As for Japan, throw as many tantrums as you like or write strongly worded letters, if Russia turns off the taps it's lights out.

Seeing as these "threats" are meaningless, don't make them in the first place, just looks silly.

CharlieJuly 22  04:03 am JST

Great to see a positive & friendly diplomatic event between two great nations Japan and Ireland.

A lot of racist anti-Irish comments above.

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Different angle when bowing to the masters I guess, not sure what the norm is but 20 degrees less. What a joke. And still buying gas......

Yeah, what are Japan's "severe consequences"

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