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Japanese media reported this week that Abe was considering a visit to China on or around Sept. 3, when Beijing commemorates the end of World War Two.

Will he get his own parade float?

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WHY did it take Abe so long?

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PM Abe is having a pipe dream, building castle in the air.

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BertieWoosterAug. 20, 2015 - 05:56PM JST WHY did it take Abe so long?

What a stupid question. Answer -Because CHINA has been refusing even though Abe has been trying continuously since coming into office. Now that China's economy isn't looking as rosy they are starting to sing a different tune.

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OssanAmerica

Now that China's economy isn't looking as rosy they are starting to sing a different tune.

And the Japanese economy is bright, right? Why do you think Abe is the one who actually wants to meet with Xi in the first place?

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@Oaan: last year China had to stop purchase of US bond as its economy recovery was more important than helping US. Then Japan increased purchase. Mitsubishi has been helping China industrialization. Abe did not know US spying Japan until this year. Obama said he want to make USA able not to beg to borrow money to China. So, this year, Abe has upper hand.

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Strange Japanese news, always want people to guess what is going on. Either accepting or rejecting the invitation, is it that hard to decide? How long has Abe been considering this? For months and he still hasn’t decided yet. By reading between the lines it would seem that Abe is trying to use a visit to China to commemorate the end of WWII as a condition to have a summit with Xi and now waiting to get a reply. I heard Park has accepted the invitation to attend, if it’s true the crack in the alliance is getting bigger indeed.

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That guy should lose some weight.

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ThePBotAug. 20, 2015 - 11:53PM JST OssanAmerica "Now that China's economy isn't looking as rosy they are starting to sing a different tune." And the Japanese economy is bright, right? Why do you think Abe is the one who actually wants to meet with Xi in the >first place?

Japan's economy good or bad is irrelevant because unlike the Chinese dictatorship, Japan des not use 70 year old historical issues as a diplomatic tool. Abe as all Japanese Heads of State want to maintain relations with China in accordance with the Sino-Japanese Treaty of Friendship they both signed and China even reaffirmed again in 1978. China on the other hand unilaterally broke this Treaty and act like it never existed now that they don't need Japan's help to get off their economic knees.

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OssanAmerica

Japan's economy good or bad is irrelevant

If that's the case, how is the state of China's economy relevant to Abe's visit? But it's not the case, that's why Abe is begging to go there. He wants to meet Xi so badly, that he's so scared to visit the Yasukini Shrine himself and instead sends his wife to go there.

:D

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ThePBotAug. 21, 2015 - 05:34AM JST OssanAmerica "Japan's economy good or bad is irrelevant" If that's the case, how is the state of China's economy relevant to Abe's visit?

Where does it say that in the above article? Show us.

But it's not the case, that's why Abe is begging to go there.

He;'s not "begging". In fact if Xing does meet him after a couple years of refusing, it's Xing that's "begging".

He wants to meet Xi so badly, that he's so scared to visit the Yasukini Shrine himself and instead sends his wife to go >there.

Stupid comment not worthy of any further response,

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OssanAmerica, on the contrary it was Japan that did not follow the Treaty. China has mentioned about the Treaty so many times in the last couple of years and kept asking Japan to adhere to the Treaty. Get your facts straight.

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There's nothing about Mr Mutoh's resignation on here. Is only pro-LDP news allowed these days?

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Abe was not begging. Nikai and LDP members who communicate with Chinese heavyset have been trying to convince Abe to accept meeting (9/3) with Xi.

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Popularity of Abe has reached a record low since he took office. This is a desperate move by Abe to meet with Xi since he might be out of the office soon. The sensible people in Japan, who admit their country is responsible for the war, have only argued domestically with right-wingers who deny that view, and their solidarity with the victims has been less than adequate. China was colonized by great powers of the world, has lived a history with a strong sense of inferiority. That has also fueled a backlash in the form of resentment. The Chinese cannot look at other countries without thinking about the status of their own nation. They are not yet ready to face foreign nations on an equal mindset and out of genuine curiosity. They also have bitter feelings about Japan. The Japanese and the Chinese have never had matching social mentalities.

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Popularity of Abe has reached a record low since he took office. This is a desperate move by Abe to meet with Xi since he might be out of the office soon.

Puzzling. It appears Abe's a shoe in for the upcoming LDP election.

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20150822/k10010198521000.html

The sensible people in Japan, who admit their country is responsible for the war, have only argued domestically with right-wingers who deny that view, and their solidarity with the victims has been less than adequate. China was colonized by great powers of the world, has lived a history with a strong sense of inferiority. That has also fueled a backlash in the form of resentment. The Chinese cannot look at other countries without thinking about the status of their own nation. They are not yet ready to face foreign nations on an equal mindset and out of genuine curiosity. They also have bitter feelings about Japan. The Japanese and the Chinese have never had matching social mentalities.

Taken straight from an interview with Sun Ge from Asahi last year.

http://ajw.asahi.com/article/views/opinion/AJ201409080003

I don't think the general public in Japan really gives a damn about China's inferiority complex or their ongoing 'bitter feelings' planted in their minds of their brainwashed masses.

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nigelboy AUG. 22, 2015 - 07:08AM JST Puzzling. It appears Abe's a shoe in for the upcoming LDP election.

It doesn't mean much. History will repeat. Japan's political culture of popular accountability, any politician could feel compelled to resign at any time if popular opinion turns, Japanese choose whether or not to reelect every time they answer an opinion poll. In 2007, PM Abe resigned less than a year into his term. In his resignation address, cited the same reason all of his successors, and there were many of them. Their poll numbers had dropped, the Parliament had split, and, according to the resignation announcements, their unpopularity had made neither the prime minister nor the government itself able to effectively govern.

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It doesn't mean much. History will repeat. Japan's political culture of popular accountability, any politician could feel compelled to resign at any time if popular opinion turns, Japanese choose whether or not to reelect every time they answer an opinion poll. In 2007, PM Abe resigned less than a year into his term. In his resignation address, cited the same reason all of his successors, and there were many of them. Their poll numbers had dropped, the Parliament had split, and, according to the resignation announcements, their unpopularity had made neither the prime minister nor the government itself able to effectively govern.

Of course it does. You got to take into consideration the opposition party which at this point will take years to get their act together. And again, stop quoting other people's word and passing it off as your own. This is why your counter argument is weak because they are not your thoughts.

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nigelboy AUG. 22, 2015 - 08:43AM JST You got to take into consideration the opposition party which at this point will take years to get their act together.

How long do you need? Japan already had 8 (EIGHT) Prime Minster from 2005. What makes you think any of them will get their act together? Nothing will change in Japan.

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How long do you need? Japan already had 8 (EIGHT) Prime Minster from 2005. What makes you think any of them will get their act together? Nothing will change in Japan.t

We're not talking about the ruling party. We're talking about the abysmal state of the current opposition party. I wish you read people's post more carefully.

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Japan already had 8 (EIGHT) Prime Minster from 2005

Uh, no. Japan has had 7 (SEVEN) prime ministers from 2001.

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kickboard AUG. 22, 2015 - 09:23AM JST Uh, no. Japan has had 7 (SEVEN) prime ministers from 2001.

Total of 8 PM's.

Koizumi to 2005 Abe 2006 Fukuda 2007 Aso 2008 Hatoyama 2009 Kan 2010 Noda 2011 Abe 2012
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'Of course it does. You got to take into consideration the opposition party which at this point will take years to get their act together'

Given that the LDP has governed in 'democratic' Japan for 66 out of 70 years since 1955, I wonder how many years it will take.

Many believed Japan wasn't suited to democracy after WW2. They were probably right.

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